Bill would mandate nicer term for illegals

jdoggg12

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http://www.news-press.com/apps/pbcs.dll...cle?AID=/20070227/NEWS01/70227062/1075

By Bill Cotterell
news-press.com Tallahassee bureau
Originally posted on February 27, 2007



TALLAHASSEE -- A state legislator whose district is home to thousands of Caribbean immigrants wants to ban the term "illegal alien" from the state's official documents.

"I personally find the word 'alien' offensive when applied to individuals, especially to children," said Sen. Frederica Wilson, D-Miami. "An alien to me is someone from out of space."

She has introduced a bill providing that: "A state agency or official may not use the term 'illegal alien' in an official document of the state." There would be no penalty for using the words.

In Miami-Dade County, Wilson said, "we don't say 'alien,' we say 'immigrant.'"

She said she encountered the situation when trying to pass a bill allowing children of foreigners to get in-state tuition at colleges and universities. Wilson, who directs a dropout prevention and education program in Miami, said she politely asks witnesses at public hearings on such issues not to use the term.

"There are students in our schools whose parents are trying to become citizens and we shouldn't label them," she said. "They are immigrants, through no fault of their own, not aliens."

Wilson said the first word isn't as bad as the second.

"'Illegal,' I can live with, but I like 'undocumented' better," she said.

Asked if her bill (SB 2154) might run afoul of Gov. Charlie Crist's "plain speaking" mandate for government agencies, Wilson said, "I think getting rid of 'alien' would be plain speaking."
 

ElFenix

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that guy doesn't know what the term alien means
 

HamburgerBoy

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Originally posted by: jdoggg12

"I personally find the word 'alien' offensive when applied to individuals, especially to children," said Sen. Frederica Wilson, D-Miami. "An alien to me is someone from out of space."

:laugh:
 

Philippine Mango

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Can't wait until we get some politicians murdered by some illegal alien, maybe they'll start to actually be more proactive...
 

jdoggg12

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lol, i posted a comment like that in the other forum i posted this in...

Hmm.... to follow suit..


"I'm not driving illegally, i'm driving in an undocumented manner"

"Hey look! An alien!... oh ******, i forgot, thats not politically correct. It's a non-notive-to-earth being"
 

tk149

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I wish they'd pass a bill banning stupid politicians. Excuse me, mentally-challenged politicians.
 

Jawo

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Why dont we just invite everyone to live here for free! Then they will become powerful and screw up our country, since everyone wants to give them full rights!

Grow some balls politicians!
 

0roo0roo

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yes, lets rename war as love:) :p hehehe


paedos should be called appreciators of children

 

Desslok

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Just the other day the Feds were rounding up Illegals here in Santa Fe NM; and the Mayor of Santa Fe called the fed "racists and hate mongers". AHHHHH, nothing like a little name calling when you have no legal leg to stand on since they are here ILLEGALLY!

Asshat!
 

markgm

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I start to get upset when I read things like this, but then I realize that since our elected officials solved all of the other problems in the country there isn't much for them to do anymore.
 

SparkyJJO

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Guess what? As long as they aren't here legally then I'm calling them illegal aliens. Why? Because that is what they are. Screw political correctness.
 

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Honestly, nothing out of Florida surprises me anymore.

But still, it's a bunch of B.S. I will continue to call them illegal aliens, or illegals, or wetbacks, or whatever comes to mind. I owe them no courtesies and they deserve none.
 

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Originally posted by: giantpinkbunnyhead
Honestly, nothing out of Florida surprises me anymore.

But still, it's a bunch of B.S. I will continue to call them illegal aliens, or illegals, or wetbacks, or whatever comes to mind. I owe them no courtesies and they deserve none.

That's a really disturbing attitude to take toward people who are trying to escape poverty in the only way possible, illegally.

I have a feeling most of you have no idea what legal immigration involves. It takes years to get a green card and during that time, you can't work with just a Visa and you can't leave the country. If you are one of the few who can "take advantage" of this process, you probably work illegally because otherwise you will starve. What do you think of those people?

It's disgusting how much hate there is for illegal immigrants, because they're illegal. You know what else is illegal? Piracy, and 90% of ATOT members are doing it at this very moment.
 
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Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Originally posted by: giantpinkbunnyhead
Honestly, nothing out of Florida surprises me anymore.

But still, it's a bunch of B.S. I will continue to call them illegal aliens, or illegals, or wetbacks, or whatever comes to mind. I owe them no courtesies and they deserve none.

That's a really disturbing attitude to take toward people who are trying to escape poverty in the only way possible, illegally.

I have a feeling most of you have no idea what legal immigration involves. It takes years to get a green card and during that time, you can't work with just a Visa and you can't leave the country. If you are one of the few who can "take advantage" of this process, you probably work illegally because otherwise you will starve. What do you think of those people?

It's disgusting how much hate there is for illegal immigrants, because they're illegal. You know what else is illegal? Piracy, and 90% of ATOT members are doing it at this very moment.

They are escaping poverty and moving into poverty??? I don't know many ILLEGAL ALIENS that moved in with their aunti and uncle in Bel Air. The problem is they are lazy and can do the same amount of work they were doing in Mexico, except here they can milk the system and get a lot more, like free health care and what are the consiquences if they are caught? They get deported just to come right back over the next night.
I say round them up and start randomly shooting some of them, that will make them think twice about coming back.
 

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Hey, wow. Look at what the first defintion for alien is at dictionary.com:

1. a resident born in or belonging to another country who has not acquired citizenship by naturalization (distinguished from citizen).


It's not until the fourth definition that they mention extraterrestrial life.
 

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
that guy doesn't know what the term alien means

She's a politician. I'm sure there are many terms she doesn't know.

Why is it that politics tend to attract the dumbest people on the planet?
 

purbeast0

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Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Originally posted by: giantpinkbunnyhead
Honestly, nothing out of Florida surprises me anymore.

But still, it's a bunch of B.S. I will continue to call them illegal aliens, or illegals, or wetbacks, or whatever comes to mind. I owe them no courtesies and they deserve none.

That's a really disturbing attitude to take toward people who are trying to escape poverty in the only way possible, illegally.

I have a feeling most of you have no idea what legal immigration involves. It takes years to get a green card and during that time, you can't work with just a Visa and you can't leave the country. If you are one of the few who can "take advantage" of this process, you probably work illegally because otherwise you will starve. What do you think of those people?

It's disgusting how much hate there is for illegal immigrants, because they're illegal. You know what else is illegal? Piracy, and 90% of ATOT members are doing it at this very moment.

They are escaping poverty and moving into poverty??? I don't know many ILLEGAL ALIENS that moved in with their aunti and uncle in Bel Air. The problem is they are lazy and can do the same amount of work they were doing in Mexico, except here they can milk the system and get a lot more, like free health care and what are the consiquences if they are caught? They get deported just to come right back over the next night.
I say round them up and start randomly shooting some of them, that will make them think twice about coming back.

Dude you really are fvcking clueless.

You are calling illegal workers here lazy? When they will do work here in the states for a fraction of what an american citizen would get paid to do the same thing? You call them lazy because they are taking jobs that Americans are too lazy to do for the money offered? Get the fvck out of here ...

Sure some illegals are lazy, but the majority of them are hard ass workers who will do the nitty gritty down and dirty work for enough money to just get them some food. I've been to a third world country and I have been in the rural areas. My girlfriend is from Nicaragua and I went there last year and I can tell you, the people who are leaving their country are leaving to escape the tough living conditions of their home country.

Some of her cousins are teachers over there, and they make $1200/yr ... $1200/yr. Most people on this forum make more than that ... after taxes ... in one pay check. Sure they don't have as much mortgage or whatever to pay, but that kind of money is just enough to get by with. We constantly send them our old clothing and stuff so they don't have to buy more.

I just strongly disagree with you when you say illegals are "lazy" when in fact, they are probably harder workers than the majority of low income Americans. If it weren't for my girlfriend's mom coming over here illegally, I wouldn't even have met her. She came here with nothing and was abused/raped on the way over here, then after 4 years of hard working she had enough $$ to pay for her children to come over here.
 

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Originally posted by: purbeast0
Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Originally posted by: giantpinkbunnyhead
Honestly, nothing out of Florida surprises me anymore.

But still, it's a bunch of B.S. I will continue to call them illegal aliens, or illegals, or wetbacks, or whatever comes to mind. I owe them no courtesies and they deserve none.

That's a really disturbing attitude to take toward people who are trying to escape poverty in the only way possible, illegally.

I have a feeling most of you have no idea what legal immigration involves. It takes years to get a green card and during that time, you can't work with just a Visa and you can't leave the country. If you are one of the few who can "take advantage" of this process, you probably work illegally because otherwise you will starve. What do you think of those people?

It's disgusting how much hate there is for illegal immigrants, because they're illegal. You know what else is illegal? Piracy, and 90% of ATOT members are doing it at this very moment.

They are escaping poverty and moving into poverty??? I don't know many ILLEGAL ALIENS that moved in with their aunti and uncle in Bel Air. The problem is they are lazy and can do the same amount of work they were doing in Mexico, except here they can milk the system and get a lot more, like free health care and what are the consiquences if they are caught? They get deported just to come right back over the next night.
I say round them up and start randomly shooting some of them, that will make them think twice about coming back.

Dude you really are fvcking clueless.

You are calling illegal workers here lazy? When they will do work here in the states for a fraction of what an american citizen would get paid to do the same thing? You call them lazy because they are taking jobs that Americans are too lazy to do for the money offered? Get the fvck out of here ...

Sure some illegals are lazy, but the majority of them are hard ass workers who will do the nitty gritty down and dirty work for enough money to just get them some food. I've been to a third world country and I have been in the rural areas. My girlfriend is from Nicaragua and I went there last year and I can tell you, the people who are leaving their country are leaving to escape the tough living conditions of their home country.

Some of her cousins are teachers over there, and they make $1200/yr ... $1200/yr. Most people on this forum make more than that ... after taxes ... in one pay check. Sure they don't have as much mortgage or whatever to pay, but that kind of money is just enough to get by with. We constantly send them our old clothing and stuff so they don't have to buy more.

I just strongly disagree with you when you say illegals are "lazy" when in fact, they are probably harder workers than the majority of low income Americans. If it weren't for my girlfriend's mom coming over here illegally, I wouldn't even have met her. She came here with nothing and was abused/raped on the way over here, then after 4 years of hard working she had enough $$ to pay for her children to come over here.

Agreed. Most illegals work longer hours for lesser pay because they can't negotiate with employers. Plus many pay taxes and such but never draw frolm welfare or SS because they're afraid of being in the system