Bill O'Reilly sums it up.

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momeNt

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Sounds like he got sucked into the race-baiting that the left has been trying to devolve this nation into.

If the conservative talking heads of this nation start to engage in the race-war that the left has been dying for, this could get bad.
 

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Sounds like he got sucked into the race-baiting that the left has been trying to devolve this nation into.

If the conservative talking heads of this nation start to engage in the race-war that the left has been dying for, this could get bad.

They better start putting those welfare queens and asian ceo's in their place before they ruin civic society.
 

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The total and complete moral indefensibility of his argument notwithstanding....technically he's not wrong. The EC was built to protect (southern) white power and abolishing it would effectively reduce modern white power.
 

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The total and complete moral indefensibility of his argument notwithstanding....technically he's not wrong. The EC was built to protect (southern) white power and abolishing it would effectively reduce modern white power.

Actually, abolishing the EC would actually reduce minority voting power. Currently they are very centered in specific areas, so they have the ability to swing states like Illinois, New York, and California to get the entirety of those EC votes. If they remove that, it dilutes their votes into the entire population.

The EC did have a basis in protecting southern white voting power, but that was only when slaves were COUNTED towards electors, but could not VOTE.
 

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Sounds like he got sucked into the race-baiting that the left has been trying to devolve this nation into.

If the conservative talking heads of this nation start to engage in the race-war that the left has been dying for, this could get bad.

I love how some right-wingers insist that actually talking about and dealing with racial inequality is "race-baiting." As if pretending an issue doesn't exist makes it go away. Do you think MLK was race-baiting, too?

Hint: systemic racism didn't end just because there are anti-discrimination laws, a black President and hip-hop on the music charts. Police officers have been murdering unarmed black people for decades, for example. It's just that the rise of smartphones, body cams and dash cams has made it harder for officers to get away with these crimes.
 

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I love how some right-wingers insist that actually talking about and dealing with racial inequality is "race-baiting." As if pretending an issue doesn't exist makes it go away. Do you think MLK was race-baiting, too?

Hint: systemic racism didn't end just because there are anti-discrimination laws, a black President and hip-hop on the music charts. Police officers have been murdering unarmed black people for decades, for example. It's just that the rise of smartphones, body cams and dash cams has made it harder for officers to get away with these crimes.

I think MLK was easily the greatest figure of the 20th Century in America. Had he been able to finish what he started, I don't think we would be nearly in the mess we are in now.
 
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Bill O'Reilly milks the victim complex of his core demographic while generating some additional bonus points of gaining some additional exposure in several markets.

Based on what we are now seeing, his comments are trending on social media and various non traditional forums.
 

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Honestly why do people even listen to O'Reilly? What good has he done for the world other than starting flame wars and race baiting?
 

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Actually, abolishing the EC would actually reduce minority voting power. Currently they are very centered in specific areas, so they have the ability to swing states like Illinois, New York, and California to get the entirety of those EC votes. If they remove that, it dilutes their votes into the entire population.

The EC did have a basis in protecting southern white voting power, but that was only when slaves were COUNTED towards electors, but could not VOTE.

I'm not sure I agree with that assessment since a lot of the popular vote margins in the battleground EC states aren't exactly huge and would be swamped by the major population centers. The major mismatch we have between the EC and popular vote in the 2016 election should be a wake up call that something is wrong.

The very reason the EC was created in the first place no longer exists and I can see no good justification for keeping it. Small states would still have ample representation in the Senate.
 

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Honestly why do people even listen to O'Reilly? What good has he done for the world other than starting flame wars and race baiting?

His job is the perfect example of that racial inheritance. Always amusing when he brags about the size of his white-country audience.
 

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Sounds like he got sucked into the race-baiting that the left has been trying to devolve this nation into.

If the conservative talking heads of this nation start to engage in the race-war that the left has been dying for, this could get bad.

That's the spirit. It's never the right's fault!

The party of personal responsibility strikes again.
 

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Sounds like he got sucked into the race-baiting that the left has been trying to devolve this nation into.

If the conservative talking heads of this nation start to engage in the race-war that the left has been dying for, this could get bad.

Please. O'Reilly's schtick has been race baiting all along. His audience loves it.

If the left were trying to start a race war, as you put it, we'd probably be loading up on AR's & ammo. We're not, but the Trumpsters have been for a good long while. Nor have we been threatening armed insurrection should our candidates lose an election.

I realize you're just defending the team but you won't accomplish that decoupling from reality & tossing around baseless accusations.
 

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I'm not sure I agree with that assessment since a lot of the popular vote margins in the battleground EC states aren't exactly huge and would be swamped by the major population centers. The major mismatch we have between the EC and popular vote in the 2016 election should be a wake up call that something is wrong.

The very reason the EC was created in the first place no longer exists and I can see no good justification for keeping it. Small states would still have ample representation in the Senate.

Well I think one reason still exists, that our government is a federal government, formed by a confederation of states, and not a national government formed by a consolidation of states (quoting Madison here). Getting rid of the way we elect our president would signify a really large step towards the latter. I'm not sure what the consequences of that change would be, maybe few. The election now is about campaigning towards key states interests, and that would obviously change, but it probably wouldn't change much of anything with what the President actually delivers.
 

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Dude, you need to read up on all of the crazy race stuff in the left media all these years to get perspective. O'Reilly is saying that the policy of the left has been to see the world in black and white and actively work to disadvantage white...and reading much of the left media he has a point. Have you read "The case for reparations" in the Atlantic? Or slate.com or vox.com's race coverage? It is all pretty bad.
 

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Sounds like he got sucked into the race-baiting that the left has been trying to devolve this nation into.

If the conservative talking heads of this nation start to engage in the race-war that the left has been dying for, this could get bad.

As I recall the last person to admit at attempting to start a race war is a white right wing guy named Dylan Roof
 

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As I recall the last person to admit at attempting to start a race war is a white right wing guy named Dylan Roof

Okay, but did any of the prominent right wing figures promote it themselves? THAT would be worrisome, a one-off loon is vastly different than a leader of thought engaging in this sort of hate-speech.
 

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Well I think one reason still exists, that our government is a federal government, formed by a confederation of states, and not a national government formed by a consolidation of states (quoting Madison here). Getting rid of the way we elect our president would signify a really large step towards the latter. I'm not sure what the consequences of that change would be, maybe few. The election now is about campaigning towards key states interests, and that would obviously change, but it probably wouldn't change much of anything with what the President actually delivers.

It a vestigial instrument of another time which is no longer useful since it's primary reason for existing is obsolete. The representation of small states in the legislature is in no way diminished so I fail to see a persuasive reason for retaining it.
 

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They better start putting those welfare queens and asian ceo's in their place before they ruin civic society.

It's the same shit that made the rounds during America's rosy Jim Crow era.

Those blacks-are-humans-too people are trying to bring down this country! Segregation boosts the economy, and those lefty moralists want to ruin it!

And the right-wing gits spin themselves onto a supposed moral high ground. It's blatantly pathetic. Of course, rather than it being treating them more like people, it's now an issue of treating them more like citizens. Baby steps.