Bill O'Reilly its time for gun control

[glenn1]

Just make it so all firearm transfers have to be done through an FFL instead of only certain ones. Keep everything else the same.

So what concession would you make in turn to get this? Would you eliminate the waiting period requirement if someone came up clean when run through NICS? Because otherwise gun owners have every reason to oppose it for some of the same reasons you've opposed Voter ID.

 

[Subyman]

Dude, I'm not angry, I think it's hilarious how you and the other SJW's cover up your ignorance with lies and backpedaling.

"Oh, I didn't mean that, and I really knew that, but those state felonies and imprisonment in a state prison really don't count, because reasons."

Ah, I see you are retreating to your corner.

 

[fskimospy]

Guess how many AR15's I own...

Any new laws and bans really won't affect me personally, hell, I'm poised to make some serious $ off you fools....

I think you and the other SJW's should go for a double secret ban, because reasons...

I couldn't care less how many guns you own. Why would I? I also don't care if the laws affect you personally and if you can make money, good for you!

It is pretty amusing to watch you try and puff out your chest though so keep doing that if you want, haha.

 

[Artdeco]

Apparently the majority of both parties care to some extent but keep on keeping on its your choice to add nothing.

The first AWB did virtually nothing, outside from the outright confiscation of guns, a new ban does nothing to the 2nd power.

Remember the nightmare backlash after 9-11? Another 9-11 type incident, expect a similar backlash.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

The first AWB did virtually nothing, outside from the outright confiscation of guns, a new ban does nothing to the 2nd power.

Remember the nightmare backlash after 9-11? Another 9-11 type incident, expect a similar backlash.

Then keep on keeping on like LK and add nothing. Don't be surprised if the majority comes to an opinion you don't like. Remember you opted out of adding anything.

 

[LegendKiller]

Apparently the majority of both parties care to some extent but keep on keeping on its your choice to add nothing.

Of course they care. They want less power in the hands of the people. That is the goal of centralized powers.

 

[LegendKiller]

Or you could deal with the topic.
Those items are cited as references to powerful, outlawed, items.
There are lesser guns that meet the requirements of the second amendment. Bolt action rifles could remain legal. Difficult to conceal and no rapid fire.
All other guns could be restricted to trained professionals. Both current and ex military and police.

Wow, thanks for dictating how the rest of society lives.

 

[glenn1]

Or you could deal with the topic.
Those items are cited as references to powerful, outlawed, items.
There are lesser guns that meet the requirements of the second amendment. Bolt action rifles could remain legal. Difficult to conceal and no rapid fire.
All other guns could be restricted to trained professionals. Both current and ex military and police.

Bolt action doesn't make it a "lesser gun" any more than shoes with laces are lesser than ones with velcro. For the most part bolt action would be a "better" weapon from the gun control POV since it's typically chambered in higher calibers and bolt action is more accurate than auto action because the round is held more tightly to the barrel and reduced vibration which impairs accuracy.

Another way of thinking about it, a trackpad on a laptop isn't a "lesser" means of user input than a pointing stick even though the later can be more accurate; it's just easier to use a trackpad for most people.

 

[Artdeco]

Then keep on keeping on like LK and add nothing. Don't be surprised if the majority comes to an opinion you don't like. Remember you opted out of adding anything.

Sigh, if you read my last post, you'd realize I'm pretty sure it will be something I don't agree with, I don't bet on a losing strategy.

Orlando's shooter was 2x's interviewed by the FBI, ignored, and then passed multiple screenings to purchase his guns, what more do you want?

An outright ban of AR's will just lead to other weapons being used, other guns, bombs, knives, etc...

Look how well the UK's gun laws work:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/16/labour-mp-jo-cox-shot-in-leeds-witnesses-report/

I just shudder thinking of the bombings that will be our new normal

 

[K1052]

So what concession would you make in turn to get this? Would you eliminate the waiting period requirement if someone came up clean when run through NICS? Because otherwise gun owners have every reason to oppose it for some of the same reasons you've opposed Voter ID.

Split the difference? Exempt private transfers from the waiting period unless required by state law but every transfer requires a NICS check.

 

[feralkid]

Bazookas, Sherman tanks, and hand grenades aren't guns. He's also about 4 wars behind in technology, I'm surprised he didn't include Gatling guns on his list.

Oh really?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GAU-8_Avenger

Here's another for your viewing pleasure:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLEGE7k9FD4



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[jackstar7]

Glad to see this thread outed another OWMSJW. Fun stuff.



Kidding. It doesn't matter what race he is.

 

[glenn1]

Split the difference? Exempt private transfers from the waiting period unless required by state law but every transfer requires a NICS check.

Throw in some other minor concessions I don't think you'd complain about too much (e.g. reduced or eliminated fees for transfers that were gifts to non-profits, those with very low incomes, transfers of antique firearms, etc) and I'd make that deal.

 

[Artdeco]

I like to take the long view, and given the current uproar over guns, I'm sure we'll get new restrictive stupid, uninforceable laws that aren't enforced until after the fact, this is a huge thing in the UK, and it'll happen here too, if not already.

 

[Jaskalas]

Wow, thanks for dictating how the rest of society lives.

Yes, I do believe that is the topic.
And what I put forth is a comprehensive compromise that falls short of the Dem's desire to outlaw and confiscate every single firearm. Though admittedly, it'd look a lot like that. But my idea allows everyone to "hunt" and defend their home. It also maintains an armed society to a degree.

With the frequency of shootings, there is an obvious dilemma in the United States.

 

[glenn1]

Oh really?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GAU-8_Avenger

Here's another for your viewing pleasure:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLEGE7k9FD4



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The Warthog gun weighs 600+ pounds and is 20 feet long. If you have the ability to use that as your carry weapon whether open or concealed and use it to massacre a bunch of people in a nightclub then I'm sorry but I don't think a background check would do much.

 

[WelshBloke]

Look how well the UK's gun laws work

Ummm, they work pretty well actually.

 

[buckshot24]

Enjoy your ignorance and denial.

That's never stopped him before!

 

[K1052]

Throw in some other minor concessions I don't think you'd complain about too much (e.g. reduced or eliminated fees for transfers that were gifts to non-profits, those with very low incomes, transfers of antique firearms, etc) and I'd make that deal.

Capping the fees at a certain (low) level but auto adjusting every couple years against CPI would seem to mitigate most of that. I'd rather not eliminate fees for FFLs entirely since they do have some amount of cost through time spent associated with handling the checks.

 

[Artdeco]

Holy crap, the FBI dropped the ball

http://www.mrctv.org/videos/fbi-director-fbi-alerted-when-someone-no-fly-list-tries-buy-gun

Skip ahead to 1:30

The FBI is already notified if a terrorist watch listed actor attempts a gun purchase.

 

[glenn1]

Holy crap, the FBI dropped the ball

http://www.mrctv.org/videos/fbi-director-fbi-alerted-when-someone-no-fly-list-tries-buy-gun

Skip ahead to 1:30

The FBI is already notified if a terrorist watch listed actor attempts a gun purchase.

I think the Obama proposal is to disallow someone on the list to buy a firearm at all; whether the FBI gets alerted or not doesn't change that since currently the sale may be allowed to proceed anyway.

Whether Obama's policy change suggestion is a good idea or (IMHO) counterproductive is another discussion then when/how the FBI is notified.

 

[Artdeco]

I think the Obama proposal is to disallow someone on the list to buy a firearm at all; whether the FBI gets alerted or not doesn't change that since currently the sale may be allowed to proceed anyway.

Whether Obama's policy change suggestion is a good idea or (IMHO) counterproductive is another discussion then when/how the FBI is notified.

The director of the FBI wants it left alone, that way they have an advantage prior to the suspect going with a straw purchase or black market.

Our buddy Omar should have been left on that list.

 

[OutHouse]

I saw this the other night and started laughing. Typical conservative. Once Muslims and immigrants get their hands on AR-15s it is time to start banning them. I guarantee you if this guy wasnt a gay muslim but instead a white guy from middle murrica. Ole Bill would be talking about how ineffective gun bans and expanded background checks are and how we cant trample the 2nd amendment for white murrica.

you cant guarantee that and you know it.

 

[OutHouse]

Sigh, if you read my last post, you'd realize I'm pretty sure it will be something I don't agree with, I don't bet on a losing strategy.

Orlando's shooter was 2x's interviewed by the FBI, ignored, and then passed multiple screenings to purchase his guns, what more do you want?

An outright ban of AR's will just lead to other weapons being used, other guns, bombs, knives, etc...

Look how well the UK's gun laws work:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/16/labour-mp-jo-cox-shot-in-leeds-witnesses-report/

I just shudder thinking of the bombings that will be our new normal

He didnt use a AR he used a Sig Sauer MCX.

 

[openwheel]

Ummm, they work pretty well actually.

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