Bill O'Reilly ~2008

[Arkaign]

I seldom listen much to talk radio, as I find it exhausting after more than a few minutes of listening to arrogant and/or single-minded idiots parroting the same crap back and forth.

That said, of recent months, I tune in to Rush, BillO, Glenn, Savage etc, just to see what's out there.

Glenn, Savage and Rush : total raging bullshit from start to finish. Almost unlistenable outside of comedic value. Absolutely zero actual content aside from rage, anger, fear, and a complete slant.

BillO, OTOH, while decidedly carrying more RNC talking-point baggage than necessary, seems to be pretty moderate really. His usually even-toned presentation, tone, and surprising open-mindedness (ie; not being 100% certain 100% of the time that all (R)'s are right, and all (D)'s are wrong, indeed admitting to be unsure of many things) really took me off guard.

To add to that, the tone of his callers are a about a MILLION times more even-handed than any of the other major talk shows that I listened to. People seemed much more ready to have a fair discussion rather than go into foam-at-the-mouth rants.

Any other opinions? I don't watch the Oreilly show on Fox, so I can't comment there.

 

[Descartes]

I've listened to O'Reilly for years, and I've always thought he was fairly rational in his responses, especially relative to the likes of Hannity (imo, the worst), Rush and others.

I've never understood the hate for O'Reilly other than the fact that he's on Fox.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

O'Reilly has a better radio show than TV. I think he's center leaning a bit right. Lefties hate him because he says bad things about lefties, and on the right leaning forums, people think he goes too easy on libs and doesn't back up their conservative POVs.

Go figure.

 

[Red Dawn]

Buahahahaha, surely you just. Besides there's too many Skeletons in his closet like harassing a female co worker and then paying her off not to sue.

 

[andy04]

If you follow Glenn you will see that everything he says comes true... scary

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Buahahahaha, surely you just. Besides there's too many Skeletons in his closet like harassing a female co worker and then paying her off not to sue.

So he's a slut

That hasn't anything to do with his political views though. Sleazes come in conservative, moderate and liberal flavors.

 

[AstroManLuca]

Originally posted by: Descartes
I've listened to O'Reilly for years, and I've always thought he was fairly rational in his responses, especially relative to the likes of Hannity (imo, the worst), Rush and others.

I've never understood the hate for O'Reilly other than the fact that he's on Fox.

The main problem I have with him is that he rarely gives much time to his guests to speak. He interrupts all the time, yells constantly, and never gives them an opportunity to get their points across.

I don't even care about his politics, I just think he's an egotistical blowhard.

 

[Arkaign]

Originally posted by: AstroManLuca

Originally posted by: Descartes
I've listened to O'Reilly for years, and I've always thought he was fairly rational in his responses, especially relative to the likes of Hannity (imo, the worst), Rush and others.

I've never understood the hate for O'Reilly other than the fact that he's on Fox.

The main problem I have with him is that he rarely gives much time to his guests to speak. He interrupts all the time, yells constantly, and never gives them an opportunity to get their points across.

I don't even care about his politics, I just think he's an egotistical blowhard.

That may be more true on the TV show, but honestly, I haven't heard that on the radio in the relatively short time I've been tuning in (2-3 days a week for the past few weeks).

 

[AstroManLuca]

I haven't heard him on the radio actually. I should find out when he's on.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Buahahahaha, surely you just. Besides there's too many Skeletons in his closet like harassing a female co worker and then paying her off not to sue.

So he's a slut

That hasn't anything to do with his political views though. Sleazes come in conservative, moderate and liberal flavors.

Sure but do you think the Social Conservatives, aka the Fund A Mental Cases which will be going with Governor Lipstick the next time will not make a huge deal out of it? Besides, what makes you think he'd take the pay cut.

 

[Descartes]

Originally posted by: AstroManLuca

Originally posted by: Descartes
I've listened to O'Reilly for years, and I've always thought he was fairly rational in his responses, especially relative to the likes of Hannity (imo, the worst), Rush and others.

I've never understood the hate for O'Reilly other than the fact that he's on Fox.

The main problem I have with him is that he rarely gives much time to his guests to speak. He interrupts all the time, yells constantly, and never gives them an opportunity to get their points across.

I don't even care about his politics, I just think he's an egotistical blowhard.

All radio personalities are egotistical, except perhaps for some NPR personalities from what I've seen. Neal Boortz will flat out call you an idiot, but at least O'Reilly tries to give you the last word.

He does talk over people though, but nothing like Hannity. I apprecaite O'Reilly more for the simple fact that his process of reasoning is more based on some semblance of facts rather than simple emotion like most media personalities. For that, I give him credit.

And I agree with another poster that his radio show is superior to his tv show.

 

[Dr. Zaus]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Buahahahaha, surely you just. Besides there's too many Skeletons in his closet like harassing a female co worker and then paying her off not to sue.

How is that relevant to the fact that, some how, a some-what resonable human has a popular radio show?


Arkaign: People hate BillO because there liberal propagandist told them to, It's like an AMD fan-boy hating core2.

"what do you think of Bill O" is a litmus test of idiot partisan from reasonable human... (though it in no way tells you how far to either side that person is, even the ridiculously liberal M.More says that Bill O is right 'sometimes')

Sure he has Gaffs/problems but what that has to do with the body of his work is beyond me.

 

[Arkaign]

Originally posted by: DixyCrat

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Buahahahaha, surely you just. Besides there's too many Skeletons in his closet like harassing a female co worker and then paying her off not to sue.

How is that relevant to the fact that, some how, a some-what resonable human has a popular radio show?


Arkaign: People hate BillO because there liberal propagandist told them to, It's like an AMD fan-boy hating core2.

"what do you think of Bill O" is a litmus test of idiot partisan from reasonable human... (though it in no way tells you how far to either side that person is, even the ridiculously liberal M.More says that Bill O is right 'sometimes')

Sure he has Gaffs/problems but what that has to do with the body of his work is beyond me.

Agreed for the most part. I would like to see him move away from FNC someday though.

 

[techs]

Isn't it getting near the time O'Really starts the War on Christmas campaign with the lie he tells year after year.
You know, the one he admitted was a lie?

 

[Dr. Zaus]

I would like to see him move away from FNC someday though.

You know what would be great? an honest-to-god talking-head channel that was a true market-place of ideas. Somewhere between Rachel maddow and bill O, where ideas, not talking points, where debated, not shouted.

Originally posted by: techs
Isn't it getting near the time O'Really starts the War on Christmas campaign with the lie he tells year after year.
You know, the one he admitted was a lie?

Do you honestly believe that anyone is hurt by a city having a Christmas tree?

I understand the principles involved on both sides, but when it comes to who is, functionally, hurt by this going either way... just show me 1 person and I'll care what anyone says about it.

 

[Arkaign]

Originally posted by: DixyCrat

I would like to see him move away from FNC someday though.

You know what would be great? an honest-to-god talking-head channel that was a true market-place of ideas. Somwhere between rachle maddow and bill O, where ideas, not talking points, where debated, not shouted.

Originally posted by: techs
Isn't it getting near the time O'Really starts the War on Christmas campaign with the lie he tells year after year.
You know, the one he admitted was a lie?

Do you honestly belive that anyone is hurt by a city having a christmass tree?

I understand the principles involved on both sides, but when it comes to who is, functionaly, hurt by this going either way... just show me 1 person and I'll care what anyone says about it.

I like your style, and 2nd the idea for a truly moderate and thinking-man's news/commentary channel. PBS is sort of that, but they often get pretty obscure and aren't exactly topical most of the time.

 

[ayabe]

He's a flaming hypocrite and thus not worthy of a lot of respect.

He may say something sensible once in a blue moon and everyone seems to make hay about it, but that's like giving a kleptomaniac a prize for not stealing something.

 

[nismotigerwvu]

Personally I don't see him as the villain a lot of people say he is. Sure he is just blowing his opinion up to be the best ever, but it is his program afterall and the vast majority of his viewers agree with him (otherwise they wouldn't have a reason to be watching in the first place).
What I do enjoy about his program is that he isn't afraid to bring in/invite anyone and while he doesn't give the guests enough time, he does allow them to at least make their points and tends to keep his cool

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: Arkaign

Topic Title: Bill O'Reilly ~2008
Topic Summary: More of a Centrist?

Bill O'Reilly is a loud mouthed homophobic, racist, hypocritical bigot. The only center he can find is that puckered orifice between his gluteal cheeks, and the only reason he can find it is because that's where he keeps his bloated head.

 

[Arkaign]

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: Arkaign

Topic Title: Bill O'Reilly ~2008
Topic Summary: More of a Centrist?

Bill O'Reilly is a loud mouthed homophobic, racist, hypocritical bigot. The only center he can find is that puckered orifice between his gluteal cheeks, and the only reason he can find it is because that's where he keeps his bloated head.

Well JHC, what do you think of Rush, Hannity, Savage, and Beck?

 

[Farang]

People don't like O'Reilly because he is a social conservative in every way that I can think of, and most of the hate of Republicans is because of social conservatives.

 

[Fern]

Originally posted by: Harvey
-snip-
Bill O'Reilly is a loud mouthed homophobic, racist, hypocritical bigot.

I thought he supported gay marriage?

I'm pretty sure I've heard him say so on his TV show.

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(not refering to above)

Yeah, the lefties around here really seem to hate him. Not sure why unless it's just because "he aint' with them, so he must be against them ".

But he's no Neocon, nor GWB supporter; he seems like many people in that his political views are eclectic. He certainly does not follow any party line.

And yeah, he's arrogant as all heck and does have a habit of talking over people too much.

Fern

 

[StageLeft]

THIS is why O'Reilly is awesome :0

 

[DAPUNISHER]

The mix-up he made about U.S. troops killing SS troops at Malmédy, and the subsequent attempt by Fox and Nexis to change it to Normandy, compounded by --->

On the May 31 edition of The O'Reilly Factor, O'Reilly revised his claim in response to a viewer who noted that the Malmédy incident was "the other way around" from what O'Reilly suggested:

O'REILLY: Don Caldwell, Fort Worth, Texas: "Bill, you mentioned that Malmédy as the site of an American massacre during World War II. It was the other way around, the SS shot down U.S. prisoners." In the heat of the debate with General Clark, my statement wasn't clear enough, Mr. Caldwell. After Malmédy, some were executed by American troops.

O'Reilly did not elaborate on the revised claim. After airing O'Reilly's revised claim, Olbermann stated: "Wrong answer. When you are that wrong, when you are defending Nazi war criminals and pinning their crimes on Americans and you get caught doing so twice, you're supposed to say, 'I'm sorry, I was wrong,' and then you're supposed to shut up for a long time."

He should have admitted his mistake like a man, instead of being a douche, I haven't sat through more than 5 minutes of his show since.

 

[Mani]

He's solidly to the right, it just doesn't seem like it in comparison to the absolute nutcases on the far right like Rush and Hannity.