Bill Maher is right

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PokerGuy

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Since he's talking about politicians and public figures, I'd say he's talking more about opportunistic outrage by and toward those in the public eye than he is talking about what everyday people say/hear/see.

Fair enough. I interpreted his comments as more of comments on political correctness in general, but you make a valid point.
 

Moonbeam

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So the Left is going to stand up for Rush Limbaugh and accept his apology for 'slut', or is the crusade still on? Perhaps Bill Maher could preach this message to the base.

There are two forms of anger, the psychotic rage of those who feel the most worthless and hate any and all who would ask them to help with a dime, the worthless who treasure every tiny bit they have, and the righteously indignant who hate the injustice of the world created by these pigs. If these two forms of anger were equivalent there would not be two parties, those who love the light of progress and the filthy hoarders.
 

BoberFett

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Bill Maher is prone to go into fits of faux outrage himself, so I'm not sure who he's preaching to. I'd have to go look for examples, I can't think of any offhand, but I've watched his show now and then and thought he was quite happy to blow certain things out of proportion.

I actually used to enjoy Politically Incorrect, he seemed a bit more even keel back in those days, but lately he just seems to be the latest Hollywood attack dog for the Democrats.
 

WHAMPOM

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... sorry, you still don't "get it". I'm not a member of the GOP, nor am I a shill. Nice try though.

Walks lik'a duck...etc, time to get out of Egypt.

EDIT: but I do agree with you, PC is crap along with "Da War On Drugs", Zero Tolerance and Mandatory Sentencing.
 
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zsdersw

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Bill Maher is prone to go into fits of faux outrage himself, so I'm not sure who he's preaching to. I'd have to go look for examples, I can't think of any offhand, but I've watched his show now and then and thought he was quite happy to blow certain things out of proportion.

Please do.

He exaggerates, yes, but for the sake of comedy... not when making a serious comment.

he seemed a bit more even keel back in those days, but lately he just seems to be the latest Hollywood attack dog for the Democrats.

Everyone was more even-keel back in those days.
 

ky54

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I've been thinking it over and I can't think of anything PC we can't discuss or talk about that was driven by the right?
 

zsdersw

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I've been thinking it over and I can't think of anything PC we can't discuss or talk about that was driven by the right?

If you're a retailer, you'd better say "Merry Christmas" in your advertisements and not "Happy Holidays", lest you face harsh criticism.

Don't you dare think about removing "under God" from the pledge of allegiance (even though it was a relatively recent addition).

And how dare JC Penney hire someone like Ellen to do commercials for them; we demand to not see lesbians as spokespeople for places we shop.
 

WHAMPOM

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So the Left is going to stand up for Rush Limbaugh and accept his apology for 'slut', or is the crusade still on? Perhaps Bill Maher could preach this message to the base.

That weasel apology? To the people offended by the use of his words, but not for calling a young woman a slut and a whore.
 

ky54

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If you're a retailer, you'd better say "Merry Christmas" in your advertisements and not "Happy Holidays", lest you face harsh criticism.

Don't you dare think about removing "under God" from the pledge of allegiance (even though it was a relatively recent addition).

And how dare JC Penney hire someone like Ellen to do commercials for them; we demand to not see lesbians as spokespeople for places we shop.

So if people stop buying from a store that means it has to be because the right drove them away? LOL, please. And I haven't heard Merry Xmas in years.
 

fskimospy

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So if people stop buying from a store that means it has to be because the right drove them away? LOL, please. And I haven't heard Merry Xmas in years.

He just gave you 3 perfectly good examples. You can at least acknowledge it.
 

cubby1223

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And the right gets outraged that a woman can take a pill... take your pick. Both sides do it.

"The right" never said a woman cannot take a pill. She just cannot force the Catholic Church to pay for her pill.

This is the problem with the world - morons believes they are right.



There will never be any solution to these problems so long as we keep identifying individuals based on groups, and identifying groups based on every individual's actions. "The Right", "The Left", "Whites", "Blacks", "Women", "Men", "Straights", "Gays", etc.

The idiots of this country identify someone by a group, then everything that individual does and says is reflective of the group, and everything that anyone else in the group does and says is reflective of the individual.



Politics is an incurable disease. And groups are little more than a way for morons to form opinions of individuals without ever actually caring to get to know that individual.
 
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Craig234

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I'm a bit torn. While of course we should be totally free to condemn people saying and doing horrible things, the pearl clutching does seem to be pretty extreme.

I mean in the Limbaugh case a long known racist and sexist said something sexist. How is the fact that Rush Limbaugh is still a ridiculous, fat, bigoted clown deserving of this much attention?

What does his weight have to do with his views? If he were thin, would that make his politics any better? Funny how that's still ok to attack people for.
 

fskimospy

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What does his weight have to do with his views? If he were thin, would that make his politics any better? Funny how that's still ok to attack people for.

Why wouldn't it be okay to attack people over their weight? He's also pretty ugly, so if you want we can add that in too.
 

homercles337

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As everyone on the left feigned outrage at everything related to GWB, Haliburton, Cheney, Koch brothers and so forth. That's just political ideological outrage. Political correctness and the idea that people have a right not to hear things they don't like comes from the left.

Usurping any democratically determined state deserves outrage, calling Mittens a "Jew Hater" does not.
 

woolfe9999

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He's partially right. He's right about the problem, but it's not the "right" that drives the political correctness culture, that's the left.

I tend to agree that the left originally drove political correctness, but the right has learned from it and has picked up its own version of it. More to the point here, Gingrich is being a tool, not only because De Niro's remark wasn't intended as racist and he's smart enough to know it, but because he had the audacity to insist that Obama apologize for the remark.
 

Craig234

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Bill Maher is mixed from some good points to some crappy points IMO.

This is him defending his 'theme' and his comedic expression - there's a reason his claim to fame was a show named 'politically incorrect'.

That was a slap in the face of the 'politically correct' phrase. Some of that is good, some bad. Of course he's a sort of absolutist on the issue.

And I disagree with him where he goes too far. For example, watching the mother of Tayvon Martin interviewed recently, the group of reporters asked her what her son was like. As she listed a few activities like talking to girls, she said he likes to eat... and a reporter interrupted, 'chicken?' and there seemed to be some laughs.

A totally gratuitous, racist 'joke' at the expense of a mother who just lost her son.

I guess Maher's position is, 'no problem'. I disagree.

BAD political correctness, EXCESSIVE political correctness, is bad. There is good PC also.

We don't need the above example, we don't need to hear Rick Santorum say in a campaign speech 'do you people really want to vote for a N*****'? (He didn't say that, I'm using it as an example of the sort of thing that can come with 'no politically correct' allowed). Do we need the exploitation of bigotry to be more acceptable? Should Maher's buddy Ann Coulter not have been criticized for calling John Edwards a 'lovely human', encouraging the hatred towards gays, as part of 'no problem' presidential campaigning?
 

Craig234

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Why wouldn't it be okay to attack people over their weight? He's also pretty ugly, so if you want we can add that in too.

You didn't answer my question. What does his weight have to do with his political views? Would his politics be better if he were thin?

If you say it's ok to attack him for his weight, why not women for their gender, why not for race, why not the handicapped (that gimp FDR, Republicans should have called him)?

Why shouldn't Republican attacks on Obama regularly refer to him as a 'half breed' as an insult, why not attack his children? Why any limits on gratuitous attacks on people?