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SheHateMe

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For those non-believers, wouldn't Mrs. Hurd's career stand to lose far more (than could ever be gained) by recounting her tale? In fact, I viewed her extremely compelling story as the final nail in an alleged serial rapist's coffin, and yes, the childhood hero of many.

Beverly Johnson also spoke out the other day with a post on Vanity Fair. She was the first black supermodel to be on the cover of American Vogue and already had an establish career before she met Bill Cosby. She wanted to try and get into acting and got a call from one of Bill's people inviting her to read for a small part on The Cosby Show. Click the link to read what followed.


She has nothing to gain from falsely accusing him.
 

CitizenKain

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Seriously? That's just so sad to me, but to each their own
Do you have it set up that your headstone and obit will read something like "your real name" AKA compuwiz1, and peeps will recognize that ?
All your friends and family must at least have a few memories of the real you before you become compuwiz1

edit- Today you get out there in the real world and maybe volunteer for something else and do some good that people will talk about

Some people's crowning achievement in life is to be known as the guy who made all the EMT's sick when they had separate the corpse from the couch.
 

Sunburn74

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CNN ran a similar story a little whilst back, inquiring into a few of the allegations. A number of them were disturbing but the majority were quite laughable (ie cosby tried to kiss me when my husband stepped out of the room). I think that there's no smoke without fire and he probably was womanizer of sorts in the past; he may possibly have raped as well though I'm not sure why he would need to resort to date rape drugs (there are stories out there about him simply paying women off and having many ladies he was supporting financially; if you had money, would you resort to date rape drugs where you run the risk of arrest [she may have an idiopathic reaction and die from the drug] or would you simply use your money in such situations?)

At the same time, I think its poor form to accuse a man of rape but not have any evidence to prove it, especially when the chance was there to prove it and was passed up. Such claims to me border on harassment and the collateral damage from such claims (his wife, his kids, his friends and co-workers) falls on innocents.
 

bradley

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There are some rumblings to suggest that Bill Cosby's NAVY physiotherapist past gave him intimate knowledge of (and access to) muscle relaxants. You know, the same that might be used in a date rape situation. Things that make you go hmm.....

With 27 women and counting, at least enough awareness of these allegations exists to prevent Mr. Cosby from getting away with any future alleged rapes.



BTW, some interesting comments from fellow comedian Patton Oswalt; he's best known for his part on the TV show The King of Queens.

Patton Oswalt: Bill Cosby’s Rape-y Tendencies Were ‘A Very Badly Kept Secret’ Amongst Comedians
http://uproxx.com/webculture/2014/12/patton-oswalt-opinion-on-bill-cosby-sexual-allegations/

“The Bill Cosby thing is so f*cking awful. And what’s even worse for comedians is a lot of us have known it for a long f*cking time. It was a very badly kept secret in the comedian world.”

“He did the shit he did to these women when they were young and they were on this upswing (…) and this awful thing happens, they can never talk about it. So he’s just shot the ground out from under them. Not just in that one incident, but for decades of their lives, when they’re supposed to be enjoying the time when they’re in their physical prime and their mental prime, enjoying life (…) some guy takes that away from them. He doesn’t lose a second of sleep over it (…) and they had to sit there for decades while this guy did this over and over again, didn’t lose any sleep, was beloved.”

Oswalt: By the way, how many women have come forward at this point? Thirteen?

Holmes: I thought it was up to 14.

Oswalt: That means that there’s hundreds. If you see one cockroach there’s a thousand in your house.
 
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zinfamous

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Not saying, but the man will get though this.....then he will die. In the mean time, he's still funny and you will never be remembered for anything, except for leaving a stain on the internet, same as me. Now shut up, you gaytard.

seriously?

From an "Admin Emeritus" and "Elite member?"

pathetic.
 

feralkid

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If you got raped and repressed it I can understand. However that's not what happened here. Repression is way different. When it comes back you would once again know the dates and details.


And you know this...how?

Perhaps you have a master's in talking out of your ass?
 

compuwiz1

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And don't expect this double-standard to be corrected. If anything you will be the one to receive a warning. Ask me how I know.

I forgot to put the wink and smiley face on it. I was being completely sarcastic in that post, in the same way I might jokingly call someone a dick head. Not even remotely a personal attack, nor was it meant as an insult. Gaytard is something my friends and I throw at each other all the time. I'm not too PC about this kind of shit. :)
 

Rakehellion

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Dumb.

I don't often recall the exact year that my loved ones died. Traumatic? Absolutely. Thats your litmus test? That they can recall the exact year it happened?

It was easier for me as a kid. I could go by the year of school that i was in. Now? Every day is just like the last. Its worse since I am single with no children.

Hell, I just bought a house recently. If you had asked me 5 years from now the date I bought it, I almost surely wouldn't be able to tell you.

Somehow, I don't think I am alone. In 5 years, could i walk you through the details about what the inspector said? Absolutely, but wtf would i give a @#$#ing @#$@ about the date?

Her exact response was "I don't recall because I'm in bed right now and I'm tired."

She's full of shit.
 

smackababy

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Even if every single one of those women is lying, that's only 25% of the women accusing him. How about the other 15?

This. Even if all 5 of those women are lying about it, what about the other 15?

I don't think anyone has denied there are some "me too" people jumping on the "Cosby Raped Me" bandwagon. However, do we really believe all these women are lying? I don't.
 

werepossum

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I don't know why it's particularly difficult to believe it about Cosby as compared to anyone else. He's an actor who played a character who was trustworthy and decent; that doesn't make someone more likely to be trustworthy and decent, it just changes our perception of him because when we look at him, we don't see Bill Cosby, we see Cliff Huxtable. But that's just a character.

I mean, it's certainly possible that 20 women all decided to tell the same lie, 13 of whom decided to tell it 10 years ago in court and are repeating it now. But if it's really just a bunch of golddiggers, why haven't we seen this magnitude of complaints with any other celebrity ever? And why are they going after someone who, as you said, seems so "unlikely" to be a monster? That's like someone having the bright idea to falsely accuse Mr. Rogers of rape and 19 other golddiggers saying "Hang on, my money train just rolled in!" If you're going to pick a celebrity to falsely accuse of rape, why not go after someone that everyone already thinks is a monster? I'm in disbelief that Cosby would do this, but it's far more unbelievable that 20+ random women, some of whom are fairly well off, would all randomly tell the same lie when it's never happened before with any other celebrity.
But you also have to believe that 20+ random women were drugged and raped and absolutely none of them reported it to the cops when it happened - when there would be physical evidence of rape AND drugging to be found. To my mind it's far more likely that 20+ random women with some level of contact with Cosby were lured by the prospects of multimillion dollar settlements than that every single one of his victims just slunk off quietly, only to discover their rage decades later under the tutelage of big name civil layers.

The issue isn't whether Cosby is a saint or a monster - the guy's definitely a sleazy womanizer. But a sleazy womanizer can still be a pretty nice guy. A serial rapist cannot be a nice guy. As a parallel, I'd offer Bill Clinton, who's suffered his own share of accusations of rape and attempted rape.

Sorry guys. Way back in the late eighties, rumors were floating about concerning Lisa Bonet's The Cosby Show termination, while her being the show's most popular character.

Official reports had stated the firing was due mostly to unprofessional behavior and for her breaking a morals clause - filming racy movie scenes during hiatus. However allegations began spreading regarding how Lisa approached show producers regarding Mr. Cosby's sexual advances and was summarily fired.

According to rumors, Lisa threatened to sue Mr. Cosby and make those sexual advances public. One thing is for certain, almost immediately after her firing for disruptive behavior -curiously - she was given the lead role in the spinoff show "A Different World" Some believed she was given this role as payback, stopping any potential litigation or future scandal regarding NBC's hugest cash cow.

Why do I mention these rumors? Well, recently actress Michelle Hurd gave details of Cosby's sexual inappropriateness while on The Cosby Show, also claiming that one other female stand-in was drugged from the show. Hmm....

Now what ulterior motive could a successful actress have (*currently* working on tv's Law & Order: SVU, also having appeared on ER, 90210, Gossip Girl, soap operas and movies etc.) in going up against television's most popular and *powerful?*

Michelle Hurd IMDB
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0403335/


Michelle Hurd: ‘Law And Order’ Actress Says Bill Cosby Touched Her, Gossip Circles Have Known For Years
http://www.inquisitr.com/1626241/mi...les-have-known-for-years/#Ykv2AfGW3J2q4WYf.99


Michelle Hurd wrote on Facebook:


For those non-believers, wouldn't Mrs. Hurd's career stand to lose far more (than could ever be gained) by recounting her tale? In fact, I viewed her extremely compelling story as the final nail in an alleged serial rapist's coffin, and yes, the childhood hero of many.
As far as that goes, I have no problem believing that Cosby nailed everything that would stand still. I just have a problem believing that he drugged women into standing still so that he could rape them.

Last I heard 26 women have come forward. How many have asked for money?

One lawsuit in 2004 that was settled out of court and, I think i read that a different woman has started one.

Plus we now have one woman who is pissed off at his lawyers and is now suing for defamation of character.

Yep, a whole bunch of gold diggers.

Not to mention how many of them seem to have had similar experiences when the allegedly tried to tell someone. They were ridiculed (pretty much like what's happening now) by lawyers, police, mangers, and even their own friends.

Maybe you should read the accounts that have been published.

Also, it's not like any of this is new. I've been hearing rumors of this since the 80's. Hell, he was using some similar shit in his standup routines back in the late 60's, early 70's which, in retrospect, seems a bit scary.

I don't know if he's guilty or not but I've seen this type of thing play out many times before and in in pretty much every case, the shit *did* happen.

Hell, we just went though something like this here in Canada with a big name radio personality.

Look up Jimmy Saville for a wonderful example of 'man in power gets away with terrible shit for most of his adult life'.
Allred claims to be representing nearly twenty from what I've heard. She's asking for a hundred million; that kind of money can find a lot of victims.
 

werepossum

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I don't remember any specific dates regarding any deaths in the family. The date was something I never once thought or tried to remember since the funerals so naturally it would be forgotten at some point. For my great grandmother, I couldn't even guess the year.

It's what happens as you get older, years start to blur especially if your going back some 10-20 years or more, traumatic or not, everyone is different.
It wasn't just that she couldn't remember the date - although something so traumatic you'd expect to stand out - it's that the sequence of events she described never happened. To be believed, you'd have to accept an entirely different set-up than she described.

Beverly Johnson also spoke out the other day with a post on Vanity Fair. She was the first black supermodel to be on the cover of American Vogue and already had an establish career before she met Bill Cosby. She wanted to try and get into acting and got a call from one of Bill's people inviting her to read for a small part on The Cosby Show. Click the link to read what followed.


She has nothing to gain from falsely accusing him.
She and Hurd seem to me to be the only two credible accusers, although neither of them are alleging rape.
 

smackababy

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I don't get the whole "Bill Cosby seems like such a great guy, he can't be a serial rapist!" crap. Have you guys not heard of any of the big serial rapists and murders in the US? They are usually, on the outside, great guys.
 

zinfamous

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The issue isn't whether Cosby is a saint or a monster - the guy's definitely a sleazy womanizer. But a sleazy womanizer can still be a pretty nice guy. A serial rapist cannot be a nice guy. As a parallel, I'd offer Bill Clinton, who's suffered his own share of accusations of rape and attempted rape.

Hey, um...

Well, maybe Cosby isn't actually a nice guy?

:hmm:
 

MrPickins

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I hope the accusations are false because I really like him. It's worth pointing out that the old axiom, "Where there's smoke there's fire", is not actually true. Sometimes there's just something smoking. Sometimes there's someone generating smoke for their own purposes.

While I agree with you, in this case we have enough smoke for a forest fire.
 

IGBT

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Bill Clinton was the first Bill Cosby. Just ask Hillary..the most cheated on woman in the world.
 

brycejones

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Not saying, but the man will get though this.....then he will die. In the mean time, he's still funny and you will never be remembered for anything, except for leaving a stain on the internet, same as me. Now shut up, you gaytard. ;) :)

You usually come across as a small minded angry little man but this is just beyond bat shit crazy. Get a life man.

Edit. I guess this was some lame attempt at being funny.
 
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