Bill Clinton met with AG Loretta Lynch privately in Phoenix

[werepossum]

See the announcement by Paul Ryan after the FBI released NO CHARGES?

Ryan statement: "while I respect the FBI, this decision is ridiculous."

For those that need translation for what Ryan meant, Ryan actually meant:
WHILE I RESPECT THE FBI, THEY DROPPED THE BALL.
SO....... NOW MY REPUBLICAN CONGRESS WILL CONDUCT OUR OWN INVESTIGATION.
WE WILL HAVE THE LAST WORD CONCERNING CHARGES OR NO CHARGES.
NATURALLY, WE WILL FIND CHARGES.

Hillary's ridiculous decision to move all her official correspondence to her own private server away from Freedom Of Information Requests bears absolutely no resemblance to my side's noble decision to occasionally move our official correspondence to our own private server away from Freedom Of Information Requests because . . . um . . . Benghazi.

 

[JSt0rm]

how can the republicans win the whitehouse without throwing Hillary in prison? They will need to find a way to throw every democrat nominee in prison from here on out because all the terror babies are able to vote now.

 

[nageov3t]

if this was half the conspiracy people are making it out to be, wouldn't they have just used random aides that aren't on the media's radar rather than having a high-profile meeting with dozens of reporters nearby?

 

[First]

Ahem:
https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/p...lary-clintons-use-of-a-personal-e-mail-system

He didn't say she didn't break the law. He said there is evidence that she may have broken the law, but we're not going to recommend prosecution. The stupid and incompetent defense has prevailed. (Well, that and the impracticality of prosecuting all the other elites who do the same thing on a lesser scale.)

Indeed, you can parse it that way all you like, and I won't deny it's technically true but will again tell you that if you believe the regulatory state to be overly complex and filled with red tape, then you must admit (but won't) that handling classified material in gov't (especially the State Department) is such an integral part of the job that literally everyone directly involved in foreign affairs correspondence at State would be technically guilty of mishandling classified information if the standard is simply that they transmitted classified information marked as such at any point, even once, accidentally or on purpose. It's not difficult to envision this being done constantly, sort of like that guy who always hits Reply All instead of just Reply. Such an offense naturally shouldn't land you in jail.

 

[First]

Hillary's ridiculous decision to move all her official correspondence to her own private server away from Freedom Of Information Requests bears absolutely no resemblance to my side's noble decision to occasionally move our official correspondence to our own private server away from Freedom Of Information Requests because . . . um . . . Benghazi.

How can HRC avoid FOIA on emails sent to state.gov email addresses?

 

[werepossum]

Indeed, you can parse it that way all you like, and I won't deny it's technically true but will again tell you that if you believe the regulatory state to be overly complex and filled with red tape, then you must admit (but won't) that handling classified material in gov't (especially the State Department) is such an integral part of the job that literally everyone directly involved in foreign affairs correspondence at State would be technically guilty of mishandling classified information if the standard is simply that they transmitted classified information marked as such at any point, even once, accidentally or on purpose. It's not difficult to envision this being done constantly, sort of like that guy who always hits Reply All instead of just Reply. Such an offense naturally shouldn't land you in jail.

Which is presumably why the government system requires that you enter a security classification for each message sent. That removes the stupidity excuse (i.e. "I just hit 'Reply All'".) Except of course among those qualified to be President.

How can HRC avoid FOIA on emails sent to state.gov email addresses?

Perhaps you missed the discussions here on how State returned "no such documents exist" responses to FOIA requests on HRC emails over Benghazi. If so, please seek them out and find a competent person to explain them to you.

 

[First]

Which is presumably why the government system requires that you enter a security classification for each message sent. That removes the stupidity excuse (i.e. "I just hit 'Reply All'".) Except of course among those qualified to be President.

No, it doesn't, given you could just as easily misidentify something as classified or not the same exactly way you would hit Reply All instead of Reply. Literally exactly the same thing.

Perhaps you missed the discussions here on how State returned "no such documents exist" responses to FOIA requests on HRC emails over Benghazi. If so, please seek them out and find a competent person to explain them to you.

You're confused and misinformed; even without Clinton's email production being produced (which she offered up and she definitely should have), FOIA requests have in fact been successful by Judicial Watch via other State Department employees who used state.gov emails, which contained the vast majority of HRC's email correspondence. Look it up if you're still confused.

 

[werepossum]

No, it doesn't, given you could just as easily misidentify something as classified or not the same exactly way you would hit Reply All instead of Reply. Literally exactly the same thing.

You're confused and misinformed; even without Clinton's email production being produced (which she offered up and she definitely should have), FOIA requests have in fact been successful by Judicial Watch via other State Department employees who used state.gov emails, which contained the vast majority of HRC's email correspondence. Look it up if you're still confused.

Yes, because the Blumenthal hack proved that State was lying. Therefore State was forced to use a brute force approach and comb everybody's emails. They have produced a few, but are dragging their feet and won't be through until way after the election.

Interestingly, the Obama administration used private email as a defense for Lisa Jackson running the EPA and John Holdren, his science adviser. He just today lost at the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia, when a three-judge panel ruled that using a private email server for official business does not exempt them from the FOIA. Most transparent administration ever?
https://cei.org/content/white-house-loses-fight-over-science-advisers-emails

https://www.cadc.uscourts.gov/internet/opinions.nsf/75450CA390CB52C985257FE7005038BD/$file/15-5128-1622973.pdf

Appellant contends
that the district court improperly ruled that documents which
might otherwise be government records for FOIA purposes need
not be searched for or turned over to the requestor because the
head of the defendant agency maintained the putative records on
a private email account in his name at a site other than the
government email site which the agency had searched. Because
we agree with plaintiff-appellant that an agency cannot shield its
records from search or disclosure under FOIA by the expedient
of storing them in a private email account controlled by the
agency head, we reverse the dismissal and remand the case for
further proceedings.

If one is searching for a legacy for the Obama administration, perhaps this is it.

 

[Exophase]

How can HRC avoid FOIA on emails sent to state.gov email addresses?

The Secretary of State doesn't only perform official correspondence with State staff or other government workers. Although you'd think that usually someone with a government e-mail would be copied.

 

[Chiropteran]

FOIA requests have in fact been successful by Judicial Watch via other State Department employees who used state.gov emails, which contained the vast majority of HRC's email correspondence. Look it up if you're still confused.

The vast majority of the time, she didn't commit treason.

 

[First]

Yes, because the Blumenthal hack proved that State was lying. Therefore State was forced to use a brute force approach and comb everybody's emails. They have produced a few, but are dragging their feet and won't be through until way after the election.

The Blumenthal hack showed no such thing, Alex Jones.

Interestingly, the Obama administration used private email as a defense for Lisa Jackson running the EPA and John Holdren, his science adviser. He just today lost at the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia, when a three-judge panel ruled that using a private email server for official business does not exempt them from the FOIA. Most transparent administration ever?
https://cei.org/content/white-house-loses-fight-over-science-advisers-emails

https://www.cadc.uscourts.gov/internet/opinions.nsf/75450CA390CB52C985257FE7005038BD/$file/15-5128-1622973.pdf



If one is searching for a legacy for the Obama administration, perhaps this is it.

Based on my own sense of good gov't, they probably shouldn't be exempt from FOIA, they don't appear to be as of this (appealable) ruling and yet somehow you still conspiratorialize. Btw, plenty of good reason not to want to respond to a conservative-driven attempt to reveal EPA head's correspondence, not at all surprising Obama admin wouldn't be responsive to climate deniers honestly.

 

[First]

The Secretary of State doesn't only perform official correspondence with State staff or other government workers. Although you'd think that usually someone with a government e-mail would be copied.

Indeed, and AFAIK those non state.gov correspondence were produced in lawsuits, as they should have been. As an attorney who worked for a law firm for years and was a victim of the "vast right-wing conspiracy", Hillary Clinton certainly would be well aware she'd eventually be embroiled in FOIA suit(s) when she set up the private server. Given how private she appears to be, it wouldn't surprise me if she wanted maximum control over what information leaked or didn't leak, particularly the personal matters.

 

[Thump553]

I personally can sleep a bit better now. Likewise I probably won't be sent to Sing Sing for not changing my AT password for 904 days.

It would be a good day to be at home watching the commentators on Faux going mock apeshit over this.

 

[werepossum]

The Blumenthal hack showed no such thing, Alex Jones.

Based on my own sense of good gov't, they probably shouldn't be exempt from FOIA, they don't appear to be as of this (appealable) ruling and yet somehow you still conspiratorialize. Btw, plenty of good reason not to want to respond to a conservative-driven attempt to reveal EPA head's correspondence, not at all surprising Obama admin wouldn't be responsive to climate deniers honestly.

Conspiratorialize? We now have THREE department heads within the Obama administration whose official email was conducted in such a way as to make it inaccessible to FOIA requests, not to mention the IRS' and Bryan Pagliano's which merely disappeared. Seems like more than a coincidence to me.

Interesting that your "sense of good gov't" is in favor of transparency but against it applying to Democrats.

 

[First]

Conspiratorialize? We now have THREE department heads within the Obama administration whose official email was conducted in such a way as to make it inaccessible to FOIA requests, not to mention the IRS' and Bryan Pagliano's which merely disappeared. Seems like more than a coincidence to me.

Interesting that your "sense of good gov't" is in favor of transparency but against it applying to Democrats.

There are not enough facepalms.

 

[blankslate]

So President Clinton sexxed up Loretta Lynch then sent some hookers and blow to the director of the FBI...

Well played Mr. President... well played.


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[MongGrel]

Next up, Bill Clinton was on the grassy knoll ...

 

[blankslate]

Next up, Bill Clinton was on the grassy knoll ...

No that was the cryogenically preserved John Wilkes Booth... or a clone of him... gotta get back to the Alex Jones channel to find out.


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[buckshot24]

Next up, Bill Clinton was on the grassy knoll ...

So misinformed, Hillary was up on the grassy knoll. EVERYBODY knows this.

 

[buckshot24]

Indeed, and AFAIK those non state.gov correspondence were produced in lawsuits, as they should have been. As an attorney who worked for a law firm for years and was a victim of the "vast right-wing conspiracy", Hillary Clinton certainly would be well aware she'd eventually be embroiled in FOIA suit(s) when she set up the private server. Given how private she appears to be, it wouldn't surprise me if she wanted maximum control over what information leaked or didn't leak, particularly the personal matters.

Why didn't she just use a personal account for personal stuff? Why mix them all up in one email account?

 

[compuwiz1]

Why didn't she just use a personal account for personal stuff? Why mix them all up in one email account?

People without stuff to hide just don't do stuff like that. She went out of her way.

 

[Jhhnn]

It's amusing how the ravers only got a week's worth of conspiracy theorizing out of Bill's faux pas in Phoenix. What Bill & Loretta said to each other never mattered at all.

I mean, they had such high hopes that they had the answer, somehow, some way until Comey cut 'em off at the knees.

 

[brycejones]

People without stuff to hide just don't do stuff like that. She went out of her way.

Tinfoil is in asile 3.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Tinfoil is in asile 3.

I think they moved it to the front shelves as demand has been higher than usual.

 

[buckshot24]

People without stuff to hide just don't do stuff like that. She went out of her way.

Since she didn't go to prison over it so her supporters couldn't care less.