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Anarchist420

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Devil May Cry 2
That's what I was going to say.

Shadow Man looked like such a cool game, but my god the graphics were so terrible and the controls so damn clunky. I gave up on it after about an hour.
Shadow Man for the DC and PC (provided HQ filtering and 4x RGMSAA/RGSSAA are forced in the nvCP, with trilinear mipmapping, 32 bit color, and 24 bit zbuffer all enabled via the game launcher) had great graphics for a game released in 1999. I also thought it had good controls as well.
 

Oyeve

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Loved GTA IV, can't wait for V, but didn't really care for RDR. The open world seemed so uninteresting to me in RDR. It was just a big ol wilderness, nothing really going on. I think 75% of the time I played was just travel time, mindlessly hitting a button to make the horsey go.

A lot of critically acclaimed games just haven't been doing it for me lately. Couldn't really get into Deus Ex HR either, and despite all it's awards, batman arkham asylum did nothing for me.

And then on top of that, a lot of the big AAA titles like gears 3 and AC:R aren't having the impact on me they used to, since I feel like I'm just playing the same game from 3 years ago.

It's time for new consoles.
A new console is not going to make games any better. The games will still be shit but it will look nicer.

I for one hated GTA4. I thought that game was a POS. Niko was just a whiney bitch. GTA:SA was the best of the series. I loved RDR and the zombie addon. That game has been the best sofar for me.
 

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A new console is not going to make games any better. The games will still be shit but it will look nicer.

I for one hated GTA4. I thought that game was a POS. Niko was just a whiney bitch. GTA:SA was the best of the series. I loved RDR and the zombie addon. That game has been the best sofar for me.

Think about all the games that were possible this gen that were almost impossible last gen. It won't make every game better but will open new possibilities. It'll be a challenge to devs to try something new that wasn't previously possible, instead of just refining the same ideas. Also, a new gen is an opportunity to launch new IPs, even if it's just putting a new face on old ideas.

More than anything else I want to see more realistic facial and body animation, more organic and open worlds that feel alive. Raw mechanics might not change but it will become an all new experience.
 

Oyeve

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Think about all the games that were possible this gen that were almost impossible last gen. It won't make every game better but will open new possibilities. It'll be a challenge to devs to try something new that wasn't previously possible, instead of just refining the same ideas. Also, a new gen is an opportunity to launch new IPs, even if it's just putting a new face on old ideas.

More than anything else I want to see more realistic facial and body animation, more organic and open worlds that feel alive. Raw mechanics might not change but it will become an all new experience.
Freespace type games were more than possible this and last gen. Wing Commander type games also, list goes on and on. Gamers today are not interested, for the most part, in anything deeper than MW games or angry birds or any of the millions of tower-defense games. In fact, I think the higher the tech gets the worse games get. Seems to be a trend. I remember using my imagination to play Zork.
 

fstime

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lol AT is full of hipsters.

OMG, a popular game almost everyone likes, I hate it. The original 8 bit version released in 1984 was the best!11111!
 

Pr0d1gy

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lol AT is full of hipsters.

OMG, a popular game almost everyone likes, I hate it. The original 8 bit version released in 1984 was the best!11111!

If that remark is pointed at the RDR discussion, I think you can see that most of the people had the same complaints which were the western theme and GTA gameplay. I found it terribly boring from start until the hours later when I just quit playing it. I played for hours because I heard from so many people how good it was but it just never hit a spark for me.
 

warcrow

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You're so clever and succinct, how is it that you manage to bother yourself with us lesser mortals?


























*sigh*

I've never claimed to be either but I'm probably a more productive and informative member than you are in the console forum, so having some fun like I am here is hopefully tolerable by the other fine folks. ;)

Lighten up will you--video games YEEEAH!!
 

thespyder

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Think about all the games that were possible this gen that were almost impossible last gen. It won't make every game better but will open new possibilities. It'll be a challenge to devs to try something new that wasn't previously possible, instead of just refining the same ideas. Also, a new gen is an opportunity to launch new IPs, even if it's just putting a new face on old ideas.

More than anything else I want to see more realistic facial and body animation, more organic and open worlds that feel alive. Raw mechanics might not change but it will become an all new experience.

The problem isn't (IMHO) the lack of challenge with the current platform, it is the direction that developers are taking that hardware. For the most part, they are trying to maximize sales across all demographics and that means dumbing down and genericizing everything, and then cranking up the graphics to a point where the games look beautiful but are so lacking in soul and anything meaningful that they aren't worth playing.

New hardware is only going to improve the graphics (and maybe the size) of the game. I think that if people were willing to take a risk on a non-formula style game, they could make much better games with the current generation consoles (and PCs) easily.
 

Oyeve

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Ohh, found a really old bad game this weekend in my junk closet. Trevor McFur for the Atari Jaguar. Man, awful game.
 

RampantAndroid

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A new console is not going to make games any better. The games will still be shit but it will look nicer.

I for one hated GTA4. I thought that game was a POS. Niko was just a whiney bitch. GTA:SA was the best of the series. I loved RDR and the zombie addon. That game has been the best sofar for me.

Agreed - RDR and the Zombie addon was great. Didn't like GTA SA though...
 

Pr0d1gy

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I've never claimed to be either but I'm probably a more productive and informative member than you are in the console forum, so having some fun like I am here is hopefully tolerable by the other fine folks. ;)

Lighten up will you--video games YEEEAH!!

Wow a productive and informative member of a forum! lol Get a life you will, trolls YEEEAH!!
 

Pr0d1gy

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The problem isn't (IMHO) the lack of challenge with the current platform, it is the direction that developers are taking that hardware. For the most part, they are trying to maximize sales across all demographics and that means dumbing down and genericizing everything, and then cranking up the graphics to a point where the games look beautiful but are so lacking in soul and anything meaningful that they aren't worth playing.

New hardware is only going to improve the graphics (and maybe the size) of the game. I think that if people were willing to take a risk on a non-formula style game, they could make much better games with the current generation consoles (and PCs) easily.

Borderlands 2 is going to prove that straying from the pack is the only way to create a truly huge new IP these days.
 

warcrow

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Wow a productive and informative member of a forum! lol Get a life you will, trolls YEEEAH!!


Hey it's fine, you can resort to name calling, but that doesn't change the fact that some of us consider RDR to be a really fantastic video game that's coupled with one of the best endings ever crafted in a video game. I know that may sound like hyperbole, but it's honestly not.

First off I should completely agree with the masses that RDR clearly has it's share of issues--it is by no means a perfect video game--but in the end I think it has so much to offer beyond that. Sure the gameplay is mostly your standard action 3rd-person shooter with a massive open-world to explore, but I think it carries much more on it's back because of it's social commentary. To me that matters a lot!

Predictably it deals with things like authoritative corruption and transient outlaws in urban conflicts, but it's also about the death of the Old West while the Industrial Revolution ushers in. And it does this with a real grit, to an era that is often romanticized. It's about how we carelessly continued to force back a civilization that existed hundreds of years before us as religion was spread throughout. It's about the lawlessness of bandits who did indescribably horrible things to so many women and children. So because we tend to forget how awful the era was, i think it's a fairly bold direction to take for such uncomfortable subject matters. Rockstar finds a way to weave this throughout the narrative and gameplay, and I love that! I think it's great that a video game has the balls to deal with these topics.

No one does exposition like Rockstar. The game slowly unravels like a ball of yarn as it introduces you to it's gameplay systems and complex narrative. It's all there, it just happens at a much slower pace than I think some gamers are willing to sit through. And look, that's totally fine, but there are times where I just wish we had more patience for these things to unfold.

Yes we all have different opinions--and that's why we're all talk'n and josh'n around here--but some times when it comes to the cynicism of games, I wonder if it's really the game or the gamer. Sometimes these types of experiences require patience, and a little more of a grounded perspective that what we experience is not going to be perfectly fitting.
 
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thespyder

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Borderlands 2 is going to prove that straying from the pack is the only way to create a truly huge new IP these days.

I surprisingly haven't played Borderlands but have heard good things about it. I wasn't aware that it was that much of a departure from the stock and trade of games today. I had heard that it was basically Diablo with guns, give or take, which doesn't seem like that far off the grid?

In any event, if Borderlands 2 is a truly unique experience, that is great. It shows that a few developers know what is going on in the world. At least until EA (or some other Mega corp) buys them up and kills the creative gene for all time.
 

BD2003

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I surprisingly haven't played Borderlands but have heard good things about it. I wasn't aware that it was that much of a departure from the stock and trade of games today. I had heard that it was basically Diablo with guns, give or take, which doesn't seem like that far off the grid?

In any event, if Borderlands 2 is a truly unique experience, that is great. It shows that a few developers know what is going on in the world. At least until EA (or some other Mega corp) buys them up and kills the creative gene for all time.

It's diablo, with guns, in a post apocalyptic setting. Also, has car combat, and has MMO quest structure. It's also sorta cel shaded.

It's parts aren't unique or original at all, but no one else has put them together in the same away.
 

thespyder

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It's diablo, with guns, in a post apocalyptic setting. Also, has car combat, and has MMO quest structure. It's also sorta cel shaded.

It's parts aren't unique or original at all, but no one else has put them together in the same away.

Ok, that explains why I haven't played it. I have a pathological aversion to anything that compares favorably to MMOs. Still, other than that, it looks pretty interesting.
 
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BD2003

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Ok, that explains why I haven't played it. I have a pathological aversion to anything that compares favorably to MMOs. Still, other than that, it looks pretty interesting.

Yeah, it's a lot of "kill this guy" or "fetch these items and come back to me" kinda thing.

It's neat, but it's hardly the flag carrier for originality.
 

AnthonyStarks24

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Resident Evil 4- It just wasn't anything like the games prior to it and yes i know thats what they were aiming for but i just don't like the transition into basically an action game.
 

thespyder

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Resident Evil 4- It just wasn't anything like the games prior to it and yes i know thats what they were aiming for but i just don't like the transition into basically an action game.

LOL. It is largely subjective. For instance, I loved RE4 far above and beyond the previous games in the series. Mainly because I played the others either so far back in time that they just didn't compare or I went back and tried to play them after RE4. And no comparison.

Either way, to each their own.
 

American Gunner

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Borderlands 2 is going to prove that straying from the pack is the only way to create a truly huge new IP these days.
You think a sequel is "going to stray from the pack"? The first game was so boring. Let's kill the same enemies and do the same quests for hours just to unlock the same gun with one new variant to it.
 

shortylickens

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Borderlands was quite different from all the "Ultra-gritty-realistic war simulator" we were seeing at the time.
 

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GTA 4.
It really didnt grow on me, the color scheme was "washed out"
and i really didnt have as much fun playing it as say vice city.