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Arkaign

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
How are we ever going to prevent the cancer from spreading here to our homeland as we invite its host in with open arms?
Saddam did a pretty good job keeping suicide bomber rates in his country non-existent, and keeping Iraq's issues contained within its borders.

You think he would accept the job?

Yes. Let's bring Saddam back from the grave!

ZOMBIE SADDAM FTW! If only we can keep his consumption of living brains to a minimum, however. Or maybe we can give him Wendy's chili and he won't know the difference.
 

CitizenKain

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Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Just remember, we?re told they do this out of poverty and/or cultural differences. We?re told that we?re no better than this, so we can?t condemn them for it. Apparently Christians also send suicide bombers to markets, I?d just like to know when our liberals belittle western civilization as equal to this barbarism, where are their examples to cite that we commit such horrors?

Blowing up the innocent at the marketplace is routine in the Muslim world. Yet how are we ever going to confront this ? if we do not SO MUCH as call it by name? How are we ever going to prevent the cancer from spreading here to our homeland as we invite its host in with open arms?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Lai


Would this be classified as a smart bomb?
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Just remember, we?re told they do this out of poverty and/or cultural differences. We?re told that we?re no better than this, so we can?t condemn them for it. Apparently Christians also send suicide bombers to markets, I?d just like to know when our liberals belittle western civilization as equal to this barbarism, where are their examples to cite that we commit such horrors?

Blowing up the innocent at the marketplace is routine in the Muslim world. Yet how are we ever going to confront this ? if we do not SO MUCH as call it by name? How are we ever going to prevent the cancer from spreading here to our homeland as we invite its host in with open arms?

You dummy, we don't have to send you. We have drones.
 

Corn

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
How are we ever going to prevent the cancer from spreading here to our homeland as we invite its host in with open arms?
Saddam did a pretty good job keeping suicide bomber rates in his country non-existent, and keeping Iraq's issues contained within its borders.

You think he would accept the job?

Please tell the class how Saddam was able to keep suicide bomber rates in his country non-existent.

 
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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
How are we ever going to prevent the cancer from spreading here to our homeland as we invite its host in with open arms?
Saddam did a pretty good job keeping suicide bomber rates in his country non-existent, and keeping Iraq's issues contained within its borders.

You think he would accept the job?

Sure Saddam did a good job, suicide bombers do believe that they are martyrs themselves, they don't think that being responsible for the deaths of thousands won't send them to hell, and SH used that fear.

The invasion of Iraq was wrong but SH wasn't a benevolent dictator, he was a tyrant, let's not shove his tyranny of his people under the couch and pretend he was a good guy.

Facts are what they are, they just are.
 
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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
How are we ever going to prevent the cancer from spreading here to our homeland as we invite its host in with open arms?
Saddam did a pretty good job keeping suicide bomber rates in his country non-existent, and keeping Iraq's issues contained within its borders.

You think he would accept the job?

Sure Saddam did a good job, suicide bombers do believe that they are martyrs themselves, they don't think that being responsible for the deaths of thousands won't send them to hell, and SH used that fear.

The invasion of Iraq was wrong but SH wasn't a benevolent dictator, he was a tyrant, let's not shove his tyranny of his people under the couch and pretend he was a good guy.

Facts are what they are, they just are.
 

Red Dawn

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We don't strap the mentally handicapped with bombs and blow them up, we elect them President.
 

BoomerD

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
We don't strap the mentally handicapped with bombs and blow them up, we elect them President.

:thumbsup:

if only...
 

Socio

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What I would like to know is how can someone strap bombs on helpless mentally handicapped people, blow them up and possibly equate that to being righteous to any god that has slightest bit of benevolence?
 
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Originally posted by: Socio
What I would like to know is how can someone strap bombs on helpless mentally handicapped people, blow them up and possibly equate that to being righteous to any god that has slightest bit of benevolence?

Well, in any religion this COULD be considered righteous, depending on how you interpret the words, pretty much like how Jesus said to kill your children if they smithe their parents in Mark 7:9-10 and how he critisises the Jews for not doing so int Matt 15 (and those are clear words, not interpretations)

These men/women were infested by the spirit of satan and got clensed?

Justification can be found in any scripture for just about anything, there are many pages and many interpretations of each word on each and every page.

I am certain that by using the original Arameic translated to Greek, to English you could come up with texts like "monkey may has no banana" and with some interpretation make it illegal to masturbate.

Then it would be removed by some church because everyone masturbates and they cannot really keep them from doing so, while "handicapped people are infested by satan" would stay and become the norm.... Think about it, it's not like it's an uncommon belief among Christian sects that invalids or retarded people are that way because they have embraced satan.

Now the step from that to using them in the name of God is quite a tiny one.

I can PROMISE you that if you get a sect of Christians into a poor enough environment they will start chopping of childrens limbs with machetes in the name of God.

 
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Originally posted by: Socio
What I would like to know is how can someone strap bombs on helpless mentally handicapped people, blow them up and possibly equate that to being righteous to any god that has slightest bit of benevolence?

Well, in any religion this COULD be considered righteous, depending on how you interpret the words, pretty much like how Jesus said to kill your children if they smithe their parents in Mark 7:9-10 and how he critisises the Jews for not doing so int Matt 15 (and those are clear words, not interpretations)

These men/women were infested by the spirit of satan and got clensed?

Justification can be found in any scripture for just about anything, there are many pages and many interpretations of each word on each and every page.

I am certain that by using the original Arameic translated to Greek, to English you could come up with texts like "monkey may has no banana" and with some interpretation make it illegal to masturbate.

Then it would be removed by some church because everyone masturbates and they cannot really keep them from doing so, while "handicapped people are infested by satan" would stay and become the norm.... Think about it, it's not like it's an uncommon belief among Christian sects that invalids or retarded people are that way because they have embraced satan.

Now the step from that to using them in the name of God is quite a tiny one.

I can PROMISE you that if you get a sect of Christians into a poor enough environment they will start chopping of childrens limbs with machetes to cure them in the name of God, right before they bleed to death.

Of course, African Christians don't count, do they?
 

palehorse

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THIMC,

If you're just now figuring out how absolutely sick and twisted our enemies are, then you're actually much slower than the CIC you love to bash so often -- after all, even Bush figured that much out on day one!
 

Moonbeam

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Just a question. How do we know the women were retarded instead of just incredibly stupid?
 

JD50

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Originally posted by: CitizenKain
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Just remember, we?re told they do this out of poverty and/or cultural differences. We?re told that we?re no better than this, so we can?t condemn them for it. Apparently Christians also send suicide bombers to markets, I?d just like to know when our liberals belittle western civilization as equal to this barbarism, where are their examples to cite that we commit such horrors?

Blowing up the innocent at the marketplace is routine in the Muslim world. Yet how are we ever going to confront this ? if we do not SO MUCH as call it by name? How are we ever going to prevent the cancer from spreading here to our homeland as we invite its host in with open arms?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Lai


Would this be classified as a smart bomb?

Wow, so the best that you can come up with is a 40 year old atrocity, one in which those responsible were held accountable for their actions? You are proving Jaskalas's point.
 

Nitemare

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Just a question. How do we know the women were retarded instead of just incredibly stupid?

because they weren't married to Bill Clinton...

I'm pretty sure you have to be retarded to not realize that you have a bomb strapped around your waist...
 

cwjerome

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Topic Title: Now the terrorist are remotely detonating mentally retarded people

This is surprising?
 

ProfJohn

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Jul 28, 2006
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They most likely learned this from the Palestinians.
link
14 year mental retarded kid with a vest some time in 2004
 

XMan

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Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Originally posted by: Socio
What I would like to know is how can someone strap bombs on helpless mentally handicapped people, blow them up and possibly equate that to being righteous to any god that has slightest bit of benevolence?

Well, in any religion this COULD be considered righteous, depending on how you interpret the words, pretty much like how Jesus said to kill your children if they smithe their parents in Mark 7:9-10 and how he critisises the Jews for not doing so int Matt 15 (and those are clear words, not interpretations)

Good job misinterpreting the Bible. Both chapters you refer to are speaking of the same event.

Context is everything . . . Mark, Chapter 7:

5 So the Pharisees and teachers of the law asked Jesus, "Why don't your disciples live according to the tradition of the elders instead of eating their food with 'unclean' hands?"
6 He replied, "Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you hypocrites; as it is written:
" 'These people honor me with their lips,
but their hearts are far from me.
7 They worship me in vain;
their teachings are but rules taught by men.' 8 You have let go of the commands of God and are holding on to the traditions of men."

9 And he said to them: "You have a fine way of setting aside the commands of God in order to observe your own traditions! 10 For Moses said, 'Honor your father and your mother,' and, 'Anyone who curses his father or mother must be put to death.' 11 But you say that if a man says to his father or mother: 'Whatever help you might otherwise have received from me is Corban' (that is, a gift devoted to God), 12 then you no longer let him do anything for his father or mother. 13 Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down. And you do many things like that."

14 Again Jesus called the crowd to him and said, "Listen to me, everyone, and understand this. 15 Nothing outside a man can make him 'unclean' by going into him. Rather, it is what comes out of a man that makes him 'unclean.' "

17vAfter he had left the crowd and entered the house, his disciples asked him about this parable. 18v"Are you so dull?" he asked. "Don't you see that nothing that enters a man from the outside can make him 'unclean'? 19 For it doesn't go into his heart but into his stomach, and then out of his body." (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods "clean.")

20 He went on: "What comes out of a man is what makes him 'unclean.'




Jesus is calling out the Pharisees for their hypocrisy. They claimed to be Godly men, but he was showing them by extreme example they didn't even follow the teachings they proclaimed to be the teachers of the law for. The Pharisees would in effect "disown" their parents when they came to them seeking help by claiming their money belonged to the church, and they could not spare any for charity for their own family.

More, from Matthew:

10 Jesus called the crowd to him and said, "Listen and understand. 11 What goes into a man's mouth does not make him 'unclean,' but what comes out of his mouth, that is what makes him 'unclean.' "

12 Then the disciples came to him and asked, "Do you know that the Pharisees were offended when they heard this?"

13 He replied, "Every plant that my heavenly Father has not planted will be pulled up by the roots. 14 Leave them; they are blind guides. If a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into a pit."

15 Peter said, "Explain the parable to us."

16 "Are you still so dull?" Jesus asked them. 17 "Don't you see that whatever enters the mouth goes into the stomach and then out of the body? 18 But the things that come out of the mouth come from the heart, and these make a man 'unclean.' 19 For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander. 20These are what make a man 'unclean'; but eating with unwashed hands does not make him 'unclean.' "

 

Rainsford

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I find it interesting how quickly this topic derailed into a liberal/conservative slug fest. It's no surprised that Jaskalas was unable to resist the urge to bash liberals, that's pretty much all he's good for around here, but it's not like everyone else didn't follow him off the cliff. Here are bad guys doing something I'd say we can all agree is a bad thing, yet the majority of the comments now seem to be directed at how bad liberals and/or conservatives are.

Jaskalas, for example, seems to be able to quickly blow past terrorists remotely detonating mentally disabled people in crowded market places to focus on his REAL hatred, people who disagree with his political views. Probability theory suggests every group has it's ass clowns, but it's interesting the trend the particular ass clown in this thread started. It makes me wonder how many people REALLY care about terrorists and how many people are just interested in defeating the political opposition...
 

Perknose

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Originally posted by: techs
The chief Iraqi military spokesman in Baghdad, Brig. Gen. Qassim al-Moussawi, claimed the female bombers had Down syndrome . . .

Ahhhhh, excuse me if I don't jump on the ZOMG train with the rest of you until we hear from a more credible source with forensic proof.

 

ProfJohn

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Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: techs
The chief Iraqi military spokesman in Baghdad, Brig. Gen. Qassim al-Moussawi, claimed the female bombers had Down syndrome . . .
Ahhhhh, excuse me if I don't jump on the ZOMG train with the rest of you until we hear from a more credible source with forensic proof.
Like he would make up a detail like that??

What does he have to gain? Everyone already knows that AQ is bad not sure what you gain by lying about people having down syndrome. Not like the anti-war crowd is going to change their mind and start supporting the war.