Bigger problem, my desktop is not connecting at all!

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spidey07

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It's possible the service won't allow more than one machine. There are plenty of features in network gear to do this.
 

alfa147x

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It's possible the service won't allow more than one machine. There are plenty of features in network gear to do this.

Sorry i wasn't clear, I plugged the desktop right into the wall. No router/switch in between. I'v tried multiple cables... :(
 

VirtualLarry

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Your first pictures shows your IPv4 as 192.168.5.217, and your gateway as 192.168.7.254, and your DHCP server as 192.168.3.254.
That strikes me as wierd, that they would be on different subnets. At least it's pretty weird for SOHO gear to be handing out.

Is it possible, that there are other people in the building doing just the same thing as you, connecting a router via a LAN port, and possibly they are not shutting off DHCP, etc., such that you are connecting to their router, and not the building's router?
 

imagoon

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Your first pictures shows your IPv4 as 192.168.5.217, and your gateway as 192.168.7.254, and your DHCP server as 192.168.3.254.
That strikes me as wierd, that they would be on different subnets. At least it's pretty weird for SOHO gear to be handing out.

Is it possible, that there are other people in the building doing just the same thing as you, connecting a router via a LAN port, and possibly they are not shutting off DHCP, etc., such that you are connecting to their router, and not the building's router?

192.168.4/19 would be 191.168.4.1 - 191.168.7.254. The DHCP server could be behind a relay agent. Strange config maybe. 1022 hosts is a large segment. The guy may have set it up with that many hosts to try and reduce the odds of a full range. There are better ways to do that though. Since he commented that this is apartment (as in the complex's) internet I would not be as surprised to see this.
 

alfa147x

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Your first pictures shows your IPv4 as 192.168.5.217, and your gateway as 192.168.7.254, and your DHCP server as 192.168.3.254.
That strikes me as wierd, that they would be on different subnets. At least it's pretty weird for SOHO gear to be handing out.

Is it possible, that there are other people in the building doing just the same thing as you, connecting a router via a LAN port, and possibly they are not shutting off DHCP, etc., such that you are connecting to their router, and not the building's router?

Well should I run into problems because I don't have a router hooked up at all

Let me check my roommate's room to make sure he doesnt have one
 

alfa147x

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Okay I have no idea what's going on now... still with my desktop problem but when I connect to my roommate's wireless network on my MBP then connect my MBP to my desktop using ethernet and using internet sharing the internet works on the desktop. Where should I start?
 

alfa147x

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By finding out what exactly is coming out of the wall connection.


:cool:

In the OP those screen shots are of what Win7 gives me when connected directly to the wall. OS X self-assigns it's self an IP :\

Any other way I can figure out what is being given to me?

Thanks for all the help guys!
 

JackMDS

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If I can see corretly your OP sohow a 169.xxx.xxx.xxx which is a none functional IP assigned by default when the computer can not find a DHCP server.

The Router that provides the IPs to the wall outlets can have different configurations.

It can set to provide only one IP per outlet, the IP can be attached to MAC address, or do something else to prevent further Routing etc.

You have to ask. If you know that you are Not allow to use more than one computer and you are afraid to ask then there is nothing much that we can do for you.


:cool:
 

JackMDS

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If I can see correctly your OP shows an IP of 169.xxx.xxx.xxx which is a none functional IP assigned by default when the computer can not find a DHCP server.

The Router that provides the IPs to the wall outlets can have different configurations.

It can set to provide only one IP per outlet, the IP can be attached to MAC address, or do something else to prevent further Routing etc.

You have to ask. If you know that you are Not allow to use more than one computer and you are afraid to ask, then there is nothing much that we can do for you.


:cool:
 

alfa147x

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Jul 14, 2005
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If I can see correctly your OP shows an IP of 169.xxx.xxx.xxx which is a none functional IP assigned by default when the computer can not find a DHCP server.

The Router that provides the IPs to the wall outlets can have different configurations.

It can set to provide only one IP per outlet, the IP can be attached to MAC address, or do something else to prevent further Routing etc.

You have to ask. If you know that you are Not allow to use more than one computer and you are afraid to ask, then there is nothing much that we can do for you.


:cool:

Haha why would I be afraid to ask?

I was worried it was an issue on my behalf, I'll call them and see what they say.

Thanks again,
Alfa147x
 

alfa147x

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Got it working!

Called in and he told me to plug the "internet" cable into the WAN on the router then enable Dynamic IP in the router and then plug my desktop into the router. Works perfectly!

Thanks guys!
 

imagoon

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Got it working!

Called in and he told me to plug the "internet" cable into the WAN on the router then enable Dynamic IP in the router and then plug my desktop into the router. Works perfectly!

Thanks guys!

Grats. However now your double NATTED so expect potentially poor performance from certain site / apps. Also typically VPNs and the like will fail hard.
 

alfa147x

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Grats. However now your double NATTED so expect potentially poor performance from certain site / apps. Also typically VPNs and the like will fail hard.

Meh I'm only here for a short period of time moving into this apartment Link later this year