Biden tests positive for Covid

eelw

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Well took long enough. And here’s hoping they actually enforce stricter social distancing policies because they have become too laxed for a while now. Experiencing mild symptoms. Last tested negative Tuesday.


Edit Jill Biden has tested negative
 

Paratus

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Well took long enough. And here’s hoping they actually enforce stricter social distancing policies because they have become too laxed for a while now. Experiencing mild symptoms. Last tested negative Tuesday.

Had it go through a number of folks in our house (some were visiting) and for most it was a mild cold or at worst a 101F fever and bad headache for 2.5 days followed by cold symptoms. Everyone was up to date on their vaccinations. Omicron is incredibly contagious but vaccinations still seem to be keeping symptoms in check for most.
 

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I have to admit I've been frustrated with the "just pretend it's over" approach many people (not just the government) have been taking in recent months. Yes, Omicron isn't nearly as bad as Delta and earlier strains, but it's not so mild that we can completely ignore the risks.

On the upside, the US has a President who respected the threat of COVID-19 long before there was a vaccine, very publicly received his shots and only got sick at a point when the disease was much less severe. I'm still half-surprised Trump survived his bout... if it weren't for experimental treatments, he might not have.

Hoping Biden recovers quickly.
 

evident

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Had it go through a number of folks in our house (some were visiting) and for most it was a mild cold or at worst a 101F fever and bad headache for 2.5 days followed by cold symptoms. Everyone was up to date on their vaccinations. Omicron is incredibly contagious but vaccinations still seem to be keeping symptoms in check for most.
Same here... wife had it and didnt get paxlovid... worst symptoms were about 4-5 days. I caught it from her but as soon as i tested positive i took paxlovid and it knocked it out with only about 24 hours of feeling really crappy. my head alternated from feeling like it was in a vise grip and i couldnt breathe to just buckets of mucus involuntarily coming out of my nose.

luckily my kids only had a 101.5 fever and a bad cough. they were under 5 and not vaxxed. counter that to my uncle who caught it back in jan, was in the hospital for a month, miserable and then passed away. really depressing but he was unvaxxed.
 

eelw

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Symptoms are runny nose and some fatigue. No fever or cough yet

Edit His dr press release confirm symptoms started yesterday evening and occasional dry cough
 
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Brovane

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Already the usual commentary has started why get vaccinated if you will still get COVID? My response has been, There has been multiple instances of people getting COVID more than once. If you don't get sterilizing immunity from future infections from natural immunity what makes you think that vaccine induced immunity would give you sterilizing immunity?


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This latest wave seems to be catching everyone that had made it this far without being infected (and getting some people for a 2nd or 3rd go-round).
 

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Now, it's like catching anything else. The cold, a cough, the flu. If you're around people with colds and coughs and flu's you will catch it too. But we've been lucky so far, just imagine an air borne variant so contagious and so deadly as was the flu of 1918, or how about as deadly as the black plague of 1346. Imagine the day when that variant comes along. I still think god is out to get us for destroying his planet, and he should.
 
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Commodus

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Already the usual commentary has started why get vaccinated if you will still get COVID? My response has been, There has been multiple instances of people getting COVID more than once. If you don't get sterilizing immunity from future infections from natural immunity what makes you think that vaccine induced immunity would give you sterilizing immunity?


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A lot of people misunderstand how vaccines work, unfortunately — they think it means "guaranteed to never get sick." We're so used to the one-time shots we got as children that we forget what it's like to need vaccines during an ongoing crisis. Hell, many people don't even realize that the flu vaccine is only semi-effective due to the nature of the disease.
 

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This latest wave seems to be catching everyone that had made it this far without being infected (and getting some people for a 2nd or 3rd go-round).

Yeap - close to everyone I know that has been cautious and proactive about protecting themselves (including me and my family) have gotten hit in the past month. The BA.2 strain is just relentless.
 

Brovane

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A lot of people misunderstand how vaccines work, unfortunately — they think it means "guaranteed to never get sick." We're so used to the one-time shots we got as children that we forget what it's like to need vaccines during an ongoing crisis. Hell, many people don't even realize that the flu vaccine is only semi-effective due to the nature of the disease.

Certain viruses you catch, and for most people you get basically sterilizing immunity from a future infection for the rest of your life. For example something like the Chicken Pox or the Measles. I was of the generation of kids that got a Chicken Pox infection as kind of a rite of passage. However with my two children they were spared that because they got the vaccine instead. However I have had the flu several times plus been vaccinated more times than I can count. There is just lots of different strains of the flu and variants. COVID-19 is Coronavirus with a bunch of different strains. There is a reason we usually don't do vaccines for Coronaviruses. Some people seemed to have forgotten this.
 

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Already the usual commentary has started why get vaccinated if you will still get COVID? My response has been, There has been multiple instances of people getting COVID more than once. If you don't get sterilizing immunity from future infections from natural immunity what makes you think that vaccine induced immunity would give you sterilizing immunity?


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Morons don't understand that there isn't a vaccine currently in use in the modern, western world that provides sterilizing immunity.

People screaming about that (still getting it after vaccination) is just a sad commentary on how stupid we as a population really are.
 
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Commodus

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If the COVID diagnosis doesn't help him politically, he always has asthma and cancer to fall back on or whatever other made up event.

Your preferred President ignored basic safety measures when the virus was much more dangerous, hosted White House dinners that were just large McDonald's orders, and thinks exercise is harmful. You're not in a position to talk.
 
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Already the usual commentary has started why get vaccinated if you will still get COVID? My response has been, There has been multiple instances of people getting COVID more than once. If you don't get sterilizing immunity from future infections from natural immunity what makes you think that vaccine induced immunity would give you sterilizing immunity?


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this!

The reason we all got vaccinated is to able to get thru a COVID case without heading to the hospital. I have no expectation to never get sick. The reason I am vaccinated & boosted & boosted again is so I can interact with people as I did pre pandemic.
 

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Certain viruses you catch, and for most people you get basically sterilizing immunity from a future infection for the rest of your life. For example something like the Chicken Pox or the Measles. I was of the generation of kids that got a Chicken Pox infection as kind of a rite of passage. However with my two children they were spared that because they got the vaccine instead. However I have had the flu several times plus been vaccinated more times than I can count. There is just lots of different strains of the flu and variants. COVID-19 is Coronavirus with a bunch of different strains. There is a reason we usually don't do vaccines for Coronaviruses. Some people seemed to have forgotten this.

Part of the reason why those vaccines are so successful is because live vaccines are used for vaccination which better models steps of infection. It is important for generating IgA antibodies at the mucosal surfaces (e.g. airways) which is important for preventing infection. With the current iteration of the COVID vaccines, they are the mRNA or viral vector delivery systems, and can only partially elicit antibody responses in the mucosa. It has been a major motivation to develop live COVID vaccines, including usage of adenoviruses with CoV-2 spike protein, but the results have been mixed with the Oxford–AstraZeneca chimp adeno vaccine, while a different intranasal version offered significant protection in mice and primates.

Despite the successes, even the measles vaccine isn't perfect. In measles cases from California from 2000-2015, 11% of cases occurred in fully vaccinated individuals. It really is a strawman when people claim vaccines "don't protect against infection." For well over a hundred years of vaccine development, the primary goal has always been to reduce death and morbidity, which the COVID vaccines due remarkably well despite the emergence of variants.
 

sportage

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Going by the news coverage you'd think Biden died.
I swear, when the media wants you dead, they really want you dead.
But watching the coverage of Kamala Harris reminded me of how much I dislike Kamala Harris. Can you imagine Kamala Harris as president for the next 2 years? Meshuggeneh!
 
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Brovane

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Morons don't understand that there isn't a vaccine currently in use in the modern, western world that provides sterilizing immunity.

People screaming about that (still getting it after vaccination) is just a sad commentary on how stupid we as a population really are.

I would say the Small Pox and Polio vaccines come very damn close to this level of immunity. With Small Pox we were able to eliminate infection through vaccination that the virus was eliminated and we no longer vaccinate for it. The Polio vaccine has been so effective that it essentially has eliminated wild polio infections in North and South America. The only remaining cluster of wild polio infections is in Indian Sub-continent.
 

pmv

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Yeap - close to everyone I know that has been cautious and proactive about protecting themselves (including me and my family) have gotten hit in the past month. The BA.2 strain is just relentless.

The way it's mutating, I expect before long it will evolve to the point where you can catch it on-line.