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Biden supported anti-busing constitutional amendment

I'm sure it's not helpful but so far it doesn't seem like he's losing much, if any, African American support. Especially older voters that prefer him seem to be cutting him a lot of slack and aren't looking to abandon him.

I think a more likely scenario is that he slowly loses support if he continues to stumble. Probably to Harris' benefit.
 
Biden's inability to handle that confrontation with Harris does not bode well for his capacity to engage with and defeat Trump on a stage. Maybe he doesn't need to, but at this point I suspect the race was blown wide open and we could see any of top 5 candidates as the nominee next year.
 
I never figured Biden to be the nominee, anyway. It sounds peachy to some, I'm sure, but most Dems know his time has passed, particularly since Harris handed him his ass on a plate over the subject at hand.
 
glenn1 said:
Yeah I guess a true believer like you would rather shut their eyes and not see this hoping the news story wouldn’t get published.
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That's ridiculous. Harris owned Biden on national TV. Everybody outside the conserva-bubble already knows it.
 
This is what happens when you have 50 years of policy and record to dig from. Sometimes that experience is as much a noose as it is a feature.
 
I'm sorry, but he should have never rescinded to Clinton last time around. Family matters or not. That is what irks me about his running, this time around.
 
"A 1973 Gallup Poll found that while a majority of Americans favored school integration, just 5% believed busing was the best way to do it. That went across racial lines — just 4% of whites and 9% of African Americans thought busing was the best way to do it."

So he had a similar position as vast majority of blacks at the time. He must clearly have been racist 🙂
 
glenn1 said:
Yeah I guess a true believer like you would rather shut their eyes and not see this hoping the news story wouldn’t get published.
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Lol dummy. If I had to choose the worst Democratic candidate it would be Biden, no contest. It's just funny how predictable you are. Russians get paid to spread this shit. You are selling yourself short by distributing it for free.
 
Like Hillary, Biden's long political history is a double edged sword.

Maybe if he explained that he, along with many other pragmatic long in the tooth politicians have changed their views over time as the views of their own constituencies have evolved.

That he represents the interests of his constituency and not his own personal view of things should be emphasized whenever any of his adversaries want to pick on his past to fight him in the here and now.
 
dank69 said:
Lol dummy. If I had to choose the worst Democratic candidate it would be Biden, no contest. It's just funny how predictable you are. Russians get paid to spread this shit. You are selling yourself short by distributing it for free.
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It’s on NPR, not like I ripped this from Pravda.
 
Does Biden plan on busing kids today? Tomorrow? No? Then this doesn't even move the needle in a potential general election against an incumbent that has no problem killing children today, tomorrow and forever.
 
I do not favor Biden. In fact, I don't think he's nearly as electable as some others do. And he blew it last night at the debate when Harris confronted him on this. But on the substance of the issue, it's unfair to him. He was in the Senate what, 36 years? He voted in favor of civil rights on literally ever other issue but this one.

And as the OP's linked article says, busing was an extremely unpopular idea among whites and blacks when it first started. I can even remember my parents being opposed to it at the time and they weren't racist. Busing was a complex issue and there were numerous problems particularly in early stages, including race riots which they had at my own high school in the years right before I started there.

A 1973 Gallup Poll found that while a majority of Americans favored school integration, just 5% believed busing was the best way to do it. That went across racial lines — just 4% of whites and 9% of African Americans thought busing was the best way to do it.
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Biden's position was in line with 95% of the general public at the time.

Way too much attention on this issue.

Will be interested to see if this one has legs and continues to haunt him throughout the primary or whether it will soon fizzle.
 
Again, this is what happens when you have someone pushing 80 running for a major office. There's just stuff that doesn't play well to 20 and 30 somethings no matter how you try to spin it..
 
vi edit said:
Again, this is what happens when you have someone pushing 80 running for a major office. There's just stuff that doesn't play well to 20 and 30 somethings no matter how you try to spin it..
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Except... you know... Trump totally disproves everything you just said....

But let's just ignore that...
 
s0me0nesmind1 said:
Except... you know... Trump totally disproves everything you just said....

But let's just ignore that...
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Hardly-

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https://www.businessinsider.com/exit-polls-who-voted-for-trump-clinton-2016-11
 
vi edit said:
This is what happens when you have 50 years of policy and record to dig from. Sometimes that experience is as much a noose as it is a feature.
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Sanders has a similarly long record and doesn't really have the landmines Biden has since he didn't go into congress intending to be a "prostitute" for the donor class--which Biden openly admits. If that's your intent going into politics, then your record absolutely will be a mixed bag since you have no ideals and just want to sell yourself to the highest bidder.
 
alcoholbob said:
Sanders has a similarly long record and doesn't really have the landmines Biden has since he didn't go into congress intending to be a "prostitute" for the donor class--which Biden openly admits. If that's your intent going into politics, then your record absolutely will be a mixed bag since you have no ideals and just want to sell yourself to the highest bidder.
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Openly admits? You got a source for that?
 
Jaskalas said:
Shame Biden did not know that last night. Or have the gumption to riposte with something so insightful.

Right or wrong, he showed weakness in age and befuddlement.
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That's not really a shame. The shame is that he thought it was a good idea to throw his hat in the ring in the first place.
 
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