Bicyclists have started doing a new thing that makes me furious

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JulesMaximus

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lol. I bet all you "law abiding" buy the book bullshitters break other laws and have done so variably most of your life. Like kicking that gas pedal just a tad over speed limit among other things. Why do hypocrites always think they have a right to an opinion?

I'm a rebel yo. Keep that in mind next time you mess with a cyclist. We'll fuck you up bro. :twisted:
 

SlitheryDee

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Jump to conclusions much?

You know what is really ironic? I do ride safely, I obey the law when I ride, I ride in the bike lanes, I stop at stop lights and don't blow through them, I yield right of way to auto traffic when they have the right of way and I still almost got killed a number of times by idiot drivers not paying attention (including a city bus).

There was one stretch on my commute where the city didn't extend the bike lanes through, it was about 1/2 mile long and I would ride as close to the curb as possible but after almost getting hit a few times I said fuck it and started taking the far right lane. At least I didn't have cars buzzing me when I did that.

My life is worth more to me than your time... I don't give a fuck if you're the President. :p

But hey, let's not let facts get in the way of your seething hatred of cyclists. :rolleyes:

If you do all that you're not even one of the ones I'm pissed at. What are we arguing for? If you were always in the bike lane except for a half mile stretch where there wasn't one and never in an intersection when you weren't supposed to be, it HAD to be the car driver who was at fault. I have no problem admitting that. I wonder how its even possible to have an accident in that case without someone trying to drive in the bike lane though.
 

alkemyst

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Could be this. As a cyclist this is the only reason I can see for not using the bike lane. Cities need to clean these lanes periodically as they wind up with glass, metal debris, trash, and all kinds of crap that can puncture a tire.

You riding your ten speed in full leather should be safe bro.
 

RampantAndroid

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lol. I bet all you "law abiding" buy the book bullshitters break other laws and have done so variably most of your life. Like kicking that gas pedal just a tad over speed limit among other things. Why do hypocrites always think they have a right to an opinion?

We're arguing effects here. Someone doing 10 over doesn't slow down traffic unless they have an accident.
 

Exterous

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No, bicyclists have become complete jerks. I enjoy biking a lot, but I wouldn't pull the crap they pull. Drive downtown Chicago at any time and you're sure to see a few bicyclists blow through red-lights without even slowing down. They turn on one-way streets the wrong way and ride down the middle of the lane. Weave in & out of cars stopped at red-lights.

They have the same rights to the road but none of the responsibilities that go along with being safe.

This is so true. There are a lot of bicyclists in our neighborhood and most of them are considerate which I very much appriciate but I frequently encounter those that make me hate them as an entire group. Just the other day I passed (safely) a bicyclist. At the red light she road past my car and then edged over in front of my car. WTF. You want to control the lane but you do it by passing 8 stopped cars and then moving into the center of the lane at a stoplight? F You

I'm all for treating bicyclists the same as motorists, but the problem is that they don't want to be treated the same. They want to be treated like cars when it's convenient for them and treated like pedestrians when that's more convenient for them.

ZV

:thumbsup: Assholes on both sides give both sides a bad name. If only there weren't so many of them....
 

RampantAndroid

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Thank god that never happens.

From my limited knowledge, it isn't the people speeding who cause the most accidents unless they're drunk. In this area, it's the people who grew up driving in India or China, or just simply grew up there and never drove. The worst driver I know never drove until he came here. First day driving he got broad sided by a bus. I was in his car ONCE. He did NUMEROUS lane changes without looking, and I seriously considered jumping in lake washington. A cold swim was better than a ride with him. But he didn't break the speed limit!

And don't worry, I hate people in cars doing under the limit or people who aren't passing yet are in the left lane as much as I hate cyclists blocking the road. You're all causing problems...and should all be removed from the road until you can use it without causing issues.
 

Ns1

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And don't worry, I hate people in cars doing under the limit or people who aren't passing yet are in the left lane as much as I hate cyclists blocking the road. You're all causing problems...and should all be removed from the road until you can use it without causing issues.

an equal opportunity hater. a hater i can stand by.
 

Zenmervolt

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Would you ticket a farm vehicle for doing 15mph in a 45mph zone?

Brian

Considering that farm vehicles are also required by law to pull over and let traffic past whenever there are cars backed up behind them, you damn well better believe I'd ticket a farm vehicle that was refusing to pull over and allow traffic to pass.

No, I pretty much just want to not be killed when I ride. I'd be perfectly happy with that.

So you come to a complete stop at all stop signs and have never ridden a bicycle on a sidewalk? If so, you're one of very, very few.

I get where you're coming from but what I see on a daily basis is that the vast majority of bicyclists perform the exact same "me first" crap that they yell at cars about. Cyclists habitually blend behaving like cars with behaving like pedestrians; they ignore stop signs, switch between the road and sidewalk at will, and generally switch from "vehicle" to "pedestrian" as their own convenience dictates.

Honestly, walking around as a pedestrian in the city, if cars behaved around bicycles the way bicycles behave around pedestrians cyclists would be thousands of times more angry with cars than they are now.

ZV
 

yhelothar

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Where do you guys live where you see this? I live in LA and never see this. Even by campus where there are bikers all over the place. They usually stick to sidewalks or the bike lane.
 
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So it was a sporadic rainy day yet the sun was still shining. In a 50 mph zone with a incline at that moment. I shit you not "bicycle guy" was in the lane coming into traffic!!! I noticed the cars swerving ahead and had to follow suit. Bicycle guy I realized is willing to die over this shit.
 

Ns1

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So it was a sporadic rainy day yet the sun was still shining. In a 50 mph zone with a incline at that moment. I shit you not "bicycle guy" was in the lane coming into traffic!!! I noticed the cars swerving ahead and had to follow suit. Bicycle guy I realized is willing to die over this shit.

As a cyclist, I fucking hate salmon. Esp the ones that ride in black without lights/helmet WTF?
 

Rakehellion

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lol. I bet all you "law abiding" buy the book bullshitters break other laws and have done so variably most of your life. Like kicking that gas pedal just a tad over speed limit among other things. Why do hypocrites always think they have a right to an opinion?

I don't give a fuck about the law. It's common sense not to block traffic.
 

Humpy

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I RARELY see this. Definitely not enough to complain about it on the internet.

It seems like people are complaining about the one or two assholes that's the exception and using that to get on their high horse about everyone.

A lot of people only seem to see things they hate. Everyone is doing it wrong and needs to straighten up or GTFO. They remind me of my grade school teachers who were all under sexed nuns with control issues.
 

Intabus

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Where do you guys live where you see this? I live in LA and never see this. Even by campus where there are bikers all over the place. They usually stick to sidewalks or the bike lane.

This reminds me of threads where people complain about others not holding the door for them.

I RARELY see this. Definitely not enough to complain about it on the internet.

It seems like people are complaining about the one or two assholes that's the exception and using that to get on their high horse about everyone.


Its the same thing as the ever awesome "I've been to *insert store name here* hundreds of times but this ONE time something bad happened so I am NEVER going back there again!"

People ignore all the good or proper things that happen thousands of times on a daily basis to them and instead focus on the single bad time and instead of reacting like a sane person they go all crazy girlfriend overboard on it.
 

StrangerGuy

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I'm not even a motorist and I despise these holier than thou cyclists. Yes, yes everybody knows cycling on a road is just so hard. A four-year old can do it and somehow they don't have the need to act pompous.
 

Markbnj

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As a cyclist, I fucking hate salmon. Esp the ones that ride in black without lights/helmet WTF?

If I were a cyclist there is no way I would ride with automobile traffic. When I was a kid we were taught to ride and walk against the traffic flow so we could see the cars coming, rather than having them overtake from behind. I'm suspicious that the main reason that changed is this whole idiot philosophy that bikes are somehow "the same" as cars, and should be using the same infrastructure in the same way. It's nuts.
 

Eureka

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If I were a cyclist there is no way I would ride with automobile traffic. When I was a kid we were taught to ride and walk against the traffic flow so we could see the cars coming, rather than having them overtake from behind. I'm suspicious that the main reason that changed is this whole idiot philosophy that bikes are somehow "the same" as cars, and should be using the same infrastructure in the same way. It's nuts.

The reason you wide with traffic is because you really don't stand a better chance of avoiding a traffic going against it, and when you do get into an accident, you're being bumped from behind as opposed to going headfirst.
 

Markbnj

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The reason you wide with traffic is because you really don't stand a better chance of avoiding a traffic going against it, and when you do get into an accident, you're being bumped from behind as opposed to going headfirst.

Bumped from behind? Traffic on the main secondary roads around here travels at 45+ miles per hour, and there are no bike lanes on most of the roads. One texting driver swerving right and you are going to get "bumped from behind" for 1 millisecond and then turned into a grease stain. I'd much rather see them coming, thanks.
 

Broheim

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If I were a cyclist there is no way I would ride with automobile traffic. When I was a kid we were taught to ride and walk against the traffic flow so we could see the cars coming, rather than having them overtake from behind. I'm suspicious that the main reason that changed is this whole idiot philosophy that bikes are somehow "the same" as cars, and should be using the same infrastructure in the same way. It's nuts.

Biking infrastructure here in Denmark is some of the best on the world, but there was one particular road outside of my hometown with no bike lane where I had to "take the lane" in order to survive. Small road and very little traffic, poorly suited for riding a bike though, there was a better road but it was a pretty big detour, at least 10 miles. The cars were always doing twice the speed limit and there was a perpetual side wind, it wasn't unusual to pass a car in the ditch put there by some yokel who just had to do 90 mph on that small country road. I always took the lane and forced the assholes to slow down and then pulled into the side so they could overtake me in an orderly fashion. Some would get mad and start a shouting match but fuck them and their "I'm entitled to drive as a fast as I want and endanger other people"-attitudes.
 

Eureka

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Bumped from behind? Traffic on the main secondary roads around here travels at 45+ miles per hour, and there are no bike lanes on most of the roads. One texting driver swerving right and you are going to get "bumped from behind" for 1 millisecond and then turned into a grease stain. I'd much rather see them coming, thanks.

Say the car is moving at 50mph, and you're moving at 10mph.

Would you rather have that impact be at 40mph or at 60? Remember, kinetic energy increases by the square of velocity, too.