Bicyclists have started doing a new thing that makes me furious

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Raduque

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No, they're just being entitled asshole drivers. I bike commute to work 10 minutes and go home for lunch. There is not a single day where some piece of shit isn't going 45 mph on the 30 mph road I need to cross. This speeding often makes me spend more time waiting at the road.

Hear that assholes? Asshole drivers interfere with my commute EVERY DAY.

Who's entitled, now?

Your commute doesn't mean shit to me. You're a 200ish lb moving road hazard.

I'm entitled because the roads are designed for me, and paid for with my registration fees and taxes.

GFY.
 

JulesMaximus

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Jul 3, 2003
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Your commute doesn't mean shit to me. You're a 200ish lb moving road hazard.

I'm entitled because the roads are designed for me, and paid for with my registration fees and taxes.

GFY.

You road use and cage don't mean shit to me. :whiste:
 

Zenmervolt

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I think that you are being overly sensitive and are just looking for anything complain about!! They have the same right to the road as you do!!

Yes, and they should also be subject to citation for obstructing the flow of traffic, just as a car would be for going 15 mph in a 45 mph zone.

I'm all for treating bicyclists the same as motorists, but the problem is that they don't want to be treated the same. They want to be treated like cars when it's convenient for them and treated like pedestrians when that's more convenient for them.

ZV
 

sm625

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May 6, 2011
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I been seeing this almost every day for years. There is a stretch of road that has a pristine bike trail, 4 frickin feet wide. But no these idiots still ride on the road, tearing up their tires trying to straddle that uneven line where the road surface ends and the curb part begins.
 

KMFJD

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Aug 11, 2005
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To answer the OP, if it's an area where it's just the normal road and there isn't a bike lane, I pull my car over enough at traffic lights so they can't go by me on the right. Nothing worse than passing a biker, only to have to re-pass him 30 seconds later.

This man speaks the truth
 

glenn1

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But in town, hiding the bikes behind the parked cars means that any cyclist going straight at a crossroad has to pray that the cars turning right expect something they didn't see, approaching at 20 mph. Which car drivers usually don't.

Actually unless you stopped at the crosswalk and ensured the other driver was giving you right of way rather than plowing through at 20 MPH, then I have very little sympathy for you. Personally I think bicyclists should be legally required to dismount for crossing at an intersection when cars are present.
 

Remobz

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Jun 9, 2005
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In my opinion bicycles shouldn't be on any road that doesn't have a designated bike lane or a shoulder wider than 3 feet. Roads simply weren't designed to have cars and bikes sharing them and forcing cars cars traveling at 60mph+ to dodge bikes like obstacles is only asking for an accident.

I am glad this thread was made because I was going to make one about cars "left or right hooking" bikes although the bikes were in the wrong.

What pisses me off is when a car is ahead of a bike and gives signal to go left but the bike is traveling so fast that the bike almost collides with the car turning left.

I will post some youtube videos showing examples later on tonight.

Bikes can be a pain in the arse and I despise them on the roads because they cause lots of chaos at times.
 

Broheim

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'murica has a shitty cycling culture.

cyclists hate drivers because drivers hate cyclists because cyclists hate drivers, vicious fucking cycle.

y'all should visit Holland or Denmark to see how it's done.
 

Ns1

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Jun 17, 2001
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I am glad this thread was made because I was going to make one about cars "left or right hooking" bikes although the bikes were in the wrong.

The only way to prevent a right hook is to take the lane. I'm sure you ATOT'ers love that.
 

Ns1

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Your commute doesn't mean shit to me. You're a 200ish lb moving road hazard.

I'm entitled because the roads are designed for me, and paid for with my registration fees and taxes.

GFY.

You feel entitled to own the road, but the law says to share the road.
 

Remobz

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You feel entitled to own the road, but the law says to share the road.

Every country is different and some countries have no bike paths at all. Yes, one has to share the road with bikes but there are many situations in many countries over the world where bikes can cause real PROBLEMS with flow of traffic.
 

RampantAndroid

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I think that you are being overly sensitive and are just looking for anything complain about!! They have the same right to mhe road as you do!!

No, actually they don't IMO. I pay for those roads when I get a license plate and then my tabs. I pay at the pump. They don't. They use that road at my expense.

The speed limit is the max speed you can go. It doesn't mean you have a right to go 60 under all conditions. Besides that's a false start since bikes do not go on the freeway.

There are plenty of 45MPH.50MPH roads I've seen that allow bikes. Also, in most states there is a law about blocking traffic. If you're going under the limit and are blocking 5 cars or more (in my state)

(1) No person shall drive a motor vehicle at such a slow speed as to impede the normal and reasonable movement of traffic except when reduced speed is necessary for safe operation or in compliance with law

On a two-lane highway where passing is unsafe because of traffic in the opposite direction or other conditions, a slow moving vehicle, behind which five or more vehicles are formed in a line, shall turn off the roadway...

Furthermore, there's this clause:
Every person riding a bicycle upon a roadway shall be granted all of the rights and shall be subject to all of the duties applicable to the driver of a vehicle by this chapter

Which basically means a bicycle on the road cannot block 5 cars and remain on the road. Frankly, I'd pass law stating if there's no bicycle path or 3 feet of shoulder, it's illegal to operate a bicycle on that road and the punishment for violating that is a fine and the bicycle being impounded.

I say this as someone who as a kid biked EVERYWHERE. I DID ride on roads without a bike lane or shoulder but whenever a car came, I got the hell off the road to let them pass. I *NEVER* blocked traffic...which makes these spandex clad bicyclists all the more offensive to me.
 

Ns1

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No, actually they don't. I pay for those roads when I get a license plate and then my tabs. I pay at the pump. They don't. They use that road at my expense.

thanks bro!
 

RampantAndroid

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Jun 27, 2004
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thanks bro!

I'm all for levying a tax on bicycles at the time of sale, a tax on tubes/tires, and a further registration requirement on any bicycle using a paved road.

I might consider exempting mountain bikes from the tax.

You wanna use the road, fine. But then you should help pay for it.
 

Ns1

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I'm all for levying a tax on bicycles at the time of sale, a tax on tubes/tires, and a further registration requirement on any bicycle using a paved road.

I might consider exempting mountain bikes from the tax.

You wanna use the road, fine. But then you should help pay for it.

I would have no problem paying that for increased bicycle infrastructure. Until then, thanks for paying our fair share. ;)
 

RampantAndroid

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I would have no problem paying that for increased bicycle infrastructure. Until then, thanks for paying our fair share. ;)

Don't worry, I get my enjoyment from the morons who get on the road. They get the &*^# off the road when someone sits behind them in neutral revving the engine. It's fun watching them shit their spandex.
 

Ns1

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Don't worry, I get my enjoyment from the morons who get on the road. They get the &*^# off the road when someone sits behind them in neutral revving the engine. It's fun watching them shit their spandex.

When that happens to me, I usually take a pic of the car's license plate, then proceed to take the lane and watch them lose their shit behind the wheel, pondering "is it worth 15 years to murder this cyclist right now?"

the hate. it sustains me.
 

Brian Stirling

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Yes, and they should also be subject to citation for obstructing the flow of traffic, just as a car would be for going 15 mph in a 45 mph zone.

I'm all for treating bicyclists the same as motorists, but the problem is that they don't want to be treated the same. They want to be treated like cars when it's convenient for them and treated like pedestrians when that's more convenient for them.

ZV

Would you ticket a farm vehicle for doing 15mph in a 45mph zone?


Brian
 

JulesMaximus

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Jul 3, 2003
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Yes, and they should also be subject to citation for obstructing the flow of traffic, just as a car would be for going 15 mph in a 45 mph zone.

I'm all for treating bicyclists the same as motorists, but the problem is that they don't want to be treated the same. They want to be treated like cars when it's convenient for them and treated like pedestrians when that's more convenient for them.

ZV

No, I pretty much just want to not be killed when I ride. I'd be perfectly happy with that.
 

RampantAndroid

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When that happens to me, I usually take a pic of the car's license plate, then proceed to take the lane and watch them lose their shit behind the wheel, pondering "is it worth 15 years to murder this cyclist right now?"

the hate. it sustains me.

Good to know you've blocked traffic before - helps justify my opinion that bike lanes should be partitioned and it be made unlawful to have a bike in a "car" (+motorcycle/truck) lane.
 

RampantAndroid

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No, I pretty much just want to not be killed when I ride. I'd be perfectly happy with that.

Then stay off the road/on the shoulder/on the sidewalk or in a bike lane and be observant. Don't do what some people in Redmond do, which is ride on the road and then go through a red light and use the walk sign as justification. You're either a ped or a vehicle. Make up your mind and behave like one.

Would you ticket a farm vehicle for doing 15mph in a 45mph zone?


Brian

Actually, yes if they're blocking traffic and not making any effort to stay on the side of the road. Because not only are they blocking traffic, farm vehicles are often far more destructive on the roadbed. The absolute worst are the amish owned tractors in PA - no rubber tires on them so they tear up the road.

If they can't get off the road to let people pass, then fine. But if they're blocking traffic and they have the ability to get over, ticket them.