BFG 7800 GTX $47X and ATI X800 XTPE $229

jimipal56

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Ok dell has BFG 7800 GTX for $47X and ATI has X800 XTPE for $229

my question is that X800 is refurbish. should i buy it or not? they say it has 3 yr warrent but donno from what day te warrenty started. also will i have any problem.?

Dell Small Business has the BFG GeForce 7800 GTX 256MB PCI-E Graphics Card for $667 - automatic 20% (exp 8/3) - $60 off $500 stackable coupon code: FN04878?HVV1WP (exp 7/31 11:59pm CDT) = $474 w/ free shipping.
 

Gamingphreek

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If you are planning on keeping this card for any length of time the GTX would be you best bet. If you plan on keeping it for a month or two then the X800XTPE will be a good transition card, as it doesn't support a lot of the features the GTX does.

-Kevin
 

jimipal56

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no i am looking for GFX card in range of 150-200 but i guess i can go littlebit over and i have AGP slot only on my DELL 4550 so i don't want PCI-E. But will XTPE stay alve for like 2-3 years?
 

ronnn

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Have been thinking the same thing as the x800 xt pe is agp and would be a good final short term upgrade for my aging system. Also found the code for 10% off which basically pays for shipping. I have read that the x800 xt pe is quite loud (at idle) - so that is sort of holding me back. Also would like to totally upgrade, am just having a hard time justifying it as my system works fine and is still quite fast for the apps I use. I agree basically with gamingphreek (is always cheapest to wait), but not sure which agp card would be a better upgrade. :beer:

edit: The card does have a 3 year warranty, but may be considered slow along with the rest of your box in 3 years. Still who knows my machine is well over 2 years old and have been able to play just fine every game I have tried at 1024 x 768. I guess the 9700pro was more future proof than most. Personally I think that if a new card at that price keeps me happy for 6months before a total upgrade - I have saved money.
 

jimipal56

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can i see thata 10% off coupan plz and im gonna call them monsay about this refurb scheme and ask them fw question and investigate and willl post back but why wouldn't you go with this AGP instead of other AGP cuz pricce is awsome
 

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: jimipal56
thanks but do you guys think i should buy this REFURB VPU?

If it comes from ATI with a 3 year warranty, why not? If it doesn't work, ATI will have to keep replacing it until it does. For 3 years. ;)

 

Wag

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Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
If you are planning on keeping this card for any length of time the GTX would be you best bet. If you plan on keeping it for a month or two then the X800XTPE will be a good transition card, as it doesn't support a lot of the features the GTX does.

-Kevin
Oh please.:disgust:

These two cards do not compare. 1 is PCI-E while the other is AGP, and is 1/2 the price. The 800XTPE should be good for at least another year if you have a decent AGP setup.
I'm still using a 9700 for cripes-sake.
 

klah

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Originally posted by: jimipal56
Ok dell has BFG 7800 GTX for $47X and ATI has X800 XTPE for $229

FYI the people that ordered it from Dell this week got an ETA of mid-September.

 

Elfear

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X800XT PE is still an excellent card, especially at that price. Heck in a lot of games the X850XT PE is very close to the 7800GTX (even at 1600x1200 4AA/8AF) and the X800XT PE is only 2-3% slower than the X850. If you have AGP it's the best deal out right now.
 

kylebisme

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Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
...the X800XTPE will be a good transition card, as it doesn't support a lot of the features the GTX does.

-Kevin

A lot, eh? Out of what percentage of total features on the x7800s would you say the x800s do not support?
 
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the x800 xt pe would be better dollar for dollar, its half the price, but will provide MORE than half the performance of the 7800
 

JBT

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You can also get the XTPE straight from ATI as a referb as well for the same price with a 3 yr warrenty.
 

Todd33

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Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
If you are planning on keeping this card for any length of time the GTX would be you best bet. If you plan on keeping it for a month or two then the X800XTPE will be a good transition card, as it doesn't support a lot of the features the GTX does.

-Kevin
LOL, fanboy.

 

ponyo

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I went for the X800XT PE. If it was any other refurb I wouldn't have. But it's direct from ATI so I've no worry. For the price I think it's the best bang for buck. X800XT PE will run anything at reasonable speed. Why pay more than double for the same thing?
 

Creig

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Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
If you are planning on keeping this card for any length of time the GTX would be you best bet. If you plan on keeping it for a month or two then the X800XTPE will be a good transition card, as it doesn't support a lot of the features the GTX does.

-Kevin

I'm pretty sure an X800XT PE will provide a good gaming experience for MUCH longer than "a month or two". I'd say it's closer to "a year or two". There are still people out there gaming with Ti4200s and 8500s.

The X800XT PE is the third fastest card currently available and is only bested by the X850XT PE and 7800GTX.

And the only features the X800XT PE doesn't support is SM3.0, which is more like "a couple" than "a lot".

For $229 shipped, it's a great deal.
 

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: Creig
Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
If you are planning on keeping this card for any length of time the GTX would be you best bet. If you plan on keeping it for a month or two then the X800XTPE will be a good transition card, as it doesn't support a lot of the features the GTX does.

-Kevin

I'm pretty sure an X800XT PE will provide a good gaming experience for MUCH longer than "a month or two". I'd say it's closer to "a year or two". There are still people out there gaming with Ti4200s and 8500s.

The X800XT PE is the third fastest card currently available and is only bested by the X850XT PE and 7800GTX.

And the only features the X800XT PE doesn't support is SM3.0, which is more like "a couple" than "a lot".

For $229 shipped, it's a great deal.

I'm not knocking the 229.00 X800XTPE deal as it is a sensational deal. But are you absolutely certain the only feature a 7 series card has over the X800XTPE is SM3.0?
I just want to see how real you can keep this.

 

Drayvn

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Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Originally posted by: Creig
Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
If you are planning on keeping this card for any length of time the GTX would be you best bet. If you plan on keeping it for a month or two then the X800XTPE will be a good transition card, as it doesn't support a lot of the features the GTX does.

-Kevin

I'm pretty sure an X800XT PE will provide a good gaming experience for MUCH longer than "a month or two". I'd say it's closer to "a year or two". There are still people out there gaming with Ti4200s and 8500s.

The X800XT PE is the third fastest card currently available and is only bested by the X850XT PE and 7800GTX.

And the only features the X800XT PE doesn't support is SM3.0, which is more like "a couple" than "a lot".

For $229 shipped, it's a great deal.

I'm not knocking the 229.00 X800XTPE deal as it is a sensational deal. But are you absolutely certain the only feature a 7 series card has over the X800XTPE is SM3.0?
I just want to see how real you can keep this.

SM3 is only one feature, but under that feature there are a few more sub features, like HDR, soft shadows, parallax mapping, displacement mapping.

Tho pretty much i think everyone on here knows you dont actually need SM3 to run those as its not required too. Tho it is because of the DX9.0c specification. Well and the fact that GFX at the mo need the extra speed enhancements from SM3 to run them as they are very intensive features.

 

fstime

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Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Originally posted by: Creig
Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
If you are planning on keeping this card for any length of time the GTX would be you best bet. If you plan on keeping it for a month or two then the X800XTPE will be a good transition card, as it doesn't support a lot of the features the GTX does.

-Kevin

I'm pretty sure an X800XT PE will provide a good gaming experience for MUCH longer than "a month or two". I'd say it's closer to "a year or two". There are still people out there gaming with Ti4200s and 8500s.

The X800XT PE is the third fastest card currently available and is only bested by the X850XT PE and 7800GTX.

And the only features the X800XT PE doesn't support is SM3.0, which is more like "a couple" than "a lot".

For $229 shipped, it's a great deal.

I'm not knocking the 229.00 X800XTPE deal as it is a sensational deal. But are you absolutely certain the only feature a 7 series card has over the X800XTPE is SM3.0?
I just want to see how real you can keep this.


You really love Nvidia's features.

SM3, only around 3 games that use it. I'm sorry, 4 , forgot Lego.

Softshadows , no AF

HDR, no AA, terrible performance in farcry on the 6 series, low res probably.

IMO these features are not enough unless you like playing with no AA/AF.

There is one good feature, and thats the ability to use SLI.

And yes, a x800XTPE will last a lot longer then two freaken months.

 

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: BouZouki
Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Originally posted by: Creig
Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
If you are planning on keeping this card for any length of time the GTX would be you best bet. If you plan on keeping it for a month or two then the X800XTPE will be a good transition card, as it doesn't support a lot of the features the GTX does.

-Kevin

I'm pretty sure an X800XT PE will provide a good gaming experience for MUCH longer than "a month or two". I'd say it's closer to "a year or two". There are still people out there gaming with Ti4200s and 8500s.

The X800XT PE is the third fastest card currently available and is only bested by the X850XT PE and 7800GTX.

And the only features the X800XT PE doesn't support is SM3.0, which is more like "a couple" than "a lot".

For $229 shipped, it's a great deal.

I'm not knocking the 229.00 X800XTPE deal as it is a sensational deal. But are you absolutely certain the only feature a 7 series card has over the X800XTPE is SM3.0?
I just want to see how real you can keep this.


You really love Nvidia's features.

SM3, only around 3 games that use it. I'm sorry, 4 , forgot Lego.

Softshadows , no AF

HDR, no AA, terrible performance in farcry on the 6 series, low res probably.

IMO these features are not enough unless you like playing with no AA/AF.

There is one good feature, and thats the ability to use SLI.

And yes, a x800XTPE will last a lot longer then two freaken months.

Bouzouki, it was not a loaded question. Don't get so freakin upset!!

Just because you tell yourself the features mean nothing doesn't mean the features AREN'T THERE!!
And you forgot Transparency AA. I appreciate your answer, but I was asking Creig for the time being. You better hope that ATI isn't stupid enough to include these features in the R520 then. Cause then the card would be useless right? Sheesh.

 

Gamingphreek

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Originally posted by: BouZouki
Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Originally posted by: Creig
Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
If you are planning on keeping this card for any length of time the GTX would be you best bet. If you plan on keeping it for a month or two then the X800XTPE will be a good transition card, as it doesn't support a lot of the features the GTX does.

-Kevin

I'm pretty sure an X800XT PE will provide a good gaming experience for MUCH longer than "a month or two". I'd say it's closer to "a year or two". There are still people out there gaming with Ti4200s and 8500s.

The X800XT PE is the third fastest card currently available and is only bested by the X850XT PE and 7800GTX.

And the only features the X800XT PE doesn't support is SM3.0, which is more like "a couple" than "a lot".

For $229 shipped, it's a great deal.

I'm not knocking the 229.00 X800XTPE deal as it is a sensational deal. But are you absolutely certain the only feature a 7 series card has over the X800XTPE is SM3.0?
I just want to see how real you can keep this.


You really love Nvidia's features.

SM3, only around 3 games that use it. I'm sorry, 4 , forgot Lego.

Softshadows , no AF

HDR, no AA, terrible performance in farcry on the 6 series, low res probably.

IMO these features are not enough unless you like playing with no AA/AF.

There is one good feature, and thats the ability to use SLI.

And yes, a x800XTPE will last a lot longer then two freaken months.

I never said it wouldn't last more than 2 months. Hell, i know full well it will last many years. However, it simply doesn't have a lot of the features that the 6 and 7 series have.

You are saying that there are 3 games out right now.

#1. Wrong there are more
#2. Are you telling me that, in the next 2 years we are still going to have only a mere few games out... give me a break.

I am no more a fanboy than anyone else on these forums. If you stop and read what I said, then you will see what i was talking about.

Additionally, the PE is NOT half the price:

XTPE: ~270
GTX: ~470

270/470=57.5%

And that is best case scenario.

Stop trying to catch me in a false statement, or making a fanboy statement, because you wont.

-Kevin
 

allies

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Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Originally posted by: BouZouki
Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Originally posted by: Creig
Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
If you are planning on keeping this card for any length of time the GTX would be you best bet. If you plan on keeping it for a month or two then the X800XTPE will be a good transition card, as it doesn't support a lot of the features the GTX does.

-Kevin

I'm pretty sure an X800XT PE will provide a good gaming experience for MUCH longer than "a month or two". I'd say it's closer to "a year or two". There are still people out there gaming with Ti4200s and 8500s.

The X800XT PE is the third fastest card currently available and is only bested by the X850XT PE and 7800GTX.

And the only features the X800XT PE doesn't support is SM3.0, which is more like "a couple" than "a lot".

For $229 shipped, it's a great deal.

I'm not knocking the 229.00 X800XTPE deal as it is a sensational deal. But are you absolutely certain the only feature a 7 series card has over the X800XTPE is SM3.0?
I just want to see how real you can keep this.


You really love Nvidia's features.

SM3, only around 3 games that use it. I'm sorry, 4 , forgot Lego.

Softshadows , no AF

HDR, no AA, terrible performance in farcry on the 6 series, low res probably.

IMO these features are not enough unless you like playing with no AA/AF.

There is one good feature, and thats the ability to use SLI.

And yes, a x800XTPE will last a lot longer then two freaken months.

I never said it wouldn't last more than 2 months. Hell, i know full well it will last many years. However, it simply doesn't have a lot of the features that the 6 and 7 series have.

You are saying that there are 3 games out right now.

#1. Wrong there are more
#2. Are you telling me that, in the next 2 years we are still going to have only a mere few games out... give me a break.

I am no more a fanboy than anyone else on these forums. If you stop and read what I said, then you will see what i was talking about.

Additionally, the PE is NOT half the price:

XTPE: ~270
GTX: ~470

270/470=57.5%

And that is best case scenario.

Stop trying to catch me in a false statement, or making a fanboy statement, because you wont.

-Kevin

Uhm.. I thought it was clear that the X800XT PE was 229.00... so yeah it is in fact less than half the cost.
 

Creig

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Kevin - And Transparent AA. Yes, that is a feature I forgot to mention.

I've always been a "best bang for the buck" kinda guy instead of "must have the best of everything". And I get ridiculed by some members for this. But I'd rather get the most enjoyment per dollar spent than simply dumping loads of money to always have the latest/greatest. That means finding a high performance component (CPU, video card, etc) at a low price. And to me, this X800XT PE deal fits the bill perfectly.

That's why I ordered one.