best rap battle ever imho

[QueBert]

Most of these battles consist of guys just rehashing lines they came up with at home; very few are ad-libed and so I am unimpressed.

That's like saying Eddie Murphy's Delirious wasn't impressive because he wrote the routine at home and probably rehearsed it many times before performing it.

 

[her209]

For some reason, I read the thread title as "best trap battle ever imho"

 

[Perknose]

Dude, I didn't think there was anyone on AT that knew this much about the battle rap scene!

I don' think Pat is fake...I also like is flow and pen game. Good mix of bars and jokes. As far as the Mar One situation, I think it was drunk Patty acting like drunk Patty and that's all there was to it...it was lame and unprofessional but not nearly as bad as one of Ars' dudes grabbing a dot mob member by the neck in the T-Rex battle (also, Ars knocked someone out literally 5 feet in front of me at Vendetta).

As for the Ars v. Pat battle, let me just say this: the terms of the battle were agreed upon in advance and Ars tried to change it up...simple as that. Ars pulls a lot of shit like that during battles (for example, at Vendetta, he refused to hit the stage before he got paid up front, causing the whole thing to run long and the club personnel literally shoving people out of the venue while both illmac and ars hadn't spit their third yet).

As a frame of reference, I was born in 1984 so although I've heard of and listened to Big Daddy Kane and the likes, I can't say he was much of an influence per se. The one thing I think that leagues should change is this unlimited time BS. The DNA v. Diz video is literally over an hour long...I mean it's likes throwing as much shit against the wall and seeing what sticks. I think it'll definitely help the quality of the bars if the rapper were limited to 2 minute round (and in no event, more than 3 minutes).

I'm guessing you and Q know rap battles have their roots in The Dozens.

Saw it once happening live right out on the sidewalk in Philly on South Street in the late sixties.

People know South Street for the commercial tourist trap it has evolved into, but before the glitz and chains, even before the hippies that predated them, South Street was a black commercial district.

That's the genesis of the hit 1963 song South Street.

It was beyond beat and on it's way out when I got there in the late sixties, though. But, coming upon The Dozens was quite an eye-opener for this white suburban kid.

I was hip to The Last Poets back then. Thank underground FM radio for that. Just a couple of years earlier there wasn't any. And there sure wasn't any internet. Plus we walked 10 miles, both ways uphill, to school everyday. And stuff.