Best LCD for $400-$500?

[SunSamurai]

Anyone have any in mind? Widescreen preferred, CAN go as high as 500, but must be worthwhile.

I do NOT need banding issues that are not typical of an LCD.
NEED 16.7 million actual true colors. Not 16.2-7 'conmorphifiedtranlantiatedbullshit' colors.

PIP and extra imputs are nice but not needed over bigger screen size OR simple lack of vidual issues.

Thanks!

 

[thecoolnessrune]

Viewsonic VX2025WM, or, if you can swing the extra $50, go for the Samsung 215TW. Even better at graphics design, but terrible for games so dont even think about it for that.

 

[SunSamurai]

Tried it, its got banding issues and bad color. Thanks fot the suggestion though.

Im baseing my color/banding off of my 5 year old 19" 500$ Neovo LCD k19. Its about $300 now, so You'd think I could find something better?

 

[thecoolnessrune]

As I said above, if you can swing the $550 pricetag, I can personally vouch that the Samsung 215TW is and excellent LCD. But it was designed for video and photo editing. The pixels are exact in color, but not speed. This thing will ghost like a cheap KDS in any FPS.

 

[Tig Ol Bitties]

You could try the Gateway FPD2185W...I had bad experiences with the first batch that was released, but those issues probably cleared up by now. It's a decent monitor when it was working for me, has HD, DCDi, and component and is within your price range.

 

[SunSamurai]

Ill have a look at that Samsung 215TW. My Old LCD was rated at 25ms when people would cry about how badly anything more than 20ms would ghost. I didnt ghoast in wow, one of the most contrasty games around. I have a higher tolerance for it than bad color... unless its like decade old laptop LCD ghoasting. *shiver* =/ Thanks!

Thanks Tig ol

 

[TheRyuu]

This or if you don't want to spend as much, the VX2025wm.

Both are nice monitors that I don't think have any banding issues.

Also, if they cleared up the issues with the Gateway (like the noise thing?) then thats a good monitor too.

 

[SunSamurai]

The VX2025wm has banding and bad color issues, as ive said several timeas across a few threads. Hands on experiance. Otherwise a good LCD, thanks for the other link!

 

[Mogadon]

Hands on experience with the VX2025 here ... you must have got a bad one ... .

 

[SunSamurai]

That Samsung is looking pretty sexy so far. Thanks for the tip.

 

[SunSamurai]

Originally posted by: Mogadon
Hands on experience with the VX2025 here ... you must have got a bad one ... .

That or I just have a more picky eye about such things. No one else say banding or color issues where I did. Most people dont even care really, but my $300-500 isnt going to things i know are subpar. The VX is a good bargin version of a widescreen 20", and i did look at many reviews and in the store. Its at the low end of the line 20" wide screens.

Thats why its at the price it is.

EDIT:
I will say that I did have it side by side with apples 20 inch offering, so I might have use a bit too high of a quality monitor to compair it to.

 

[LOUISSSSS]

OP, it looks like you've had experiences with every monitor in your price range and aren't happy with it. why are you asking us for suggestions if you already know about the monitors in your price range?
the viewsonic does NOT have any color issues. and i know samsung makes good monitors as i've owned 3 in my life.

 

[SunSamurai]

Louis I dont know what youre getting that impression. maybe you just think there are only two models of Widescreen LCDs at this pricerange? =/

wizboy11 pointed me twords a good alternative I didnt even know about; hince why I made this thread.

 

[xtknight]

$499.99 - Samsung 215TW (true 8-bit, no dither, 16777216 colors max, high-contrast and wide-angle S-PVA panel)

The AG Neovo K-19 uses a 4-domain Fujitsu MVA while the Samsung has an 8-domain S-PVA so viewing angles should be wider. The VX2025WM is using an AU Optronics P-MVA that is 4-domain. It's average for games, certainly not terrible. It's certainly faster than the 25 ms Fujitsu MVA that's in your K-19. In terms of ghosting it's a little behind the VX2025WM which is considered great for gaming: http://www.lesnumeriques.com/duels.php?...04&p1=1040&ma2=41&mo2=102&p2=1025&ph=1

 

[SunSamurai]

Originally posted by: xtknight
$499.99 - Samsung 215TW (true 8-bit, no dither, 16777216 colors max, high-contrast and wide-angle S-PVA panel)

The AG Neovo K-19 uses a 4-domain Fujitsu MVA while the Samsung has an 8-domain S-PVA so viewing angles should be wider. The VX2025WM is using an AU Optronics P-MVA that is 4-domain. It's average for games, certainly not terrible. It's certainly faster than the 25 ms Fujitsu MVA that's in your K-19. In terms of ghosting it's a little behind the VX2025WM which is considered great for gaming: http://www.lesnumeriques.com/duels.php?...04&p1=1040&ma2=41&mo2=102&p2=1025&ph=1

Awesome info there thanks greatly for shareing your wealth of knowlage.

I just got the 215TW last night. I think the $150 ove rthe dell is a bargin to spend for not only bigger pixels, but higher contrast, everything the dell has, plus some (obviously bad but imnot going to complian about monitor sound quality) speakers with a audio out jack on the front. Oh and SMOOOOOTH gradiants!

I expected the 8ms refreash to be less than other 8ms monitors, but better than my 25ms k19. The 25ms on it never bothered me 98% of the time, so Im good to go in that aspect as well.

I'll give a review when I recive it!

I would of never found out about this monitor if I didnt come here. Thanks alot guys!

 

[Elfear]

Originally posted by: aeternitas
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EDIT:
I will say that I did have it side by side with apples 20 inch offering, so I might have use a bit too high of a quality monitor to compair it to.

Did you like the 20" Apple? I only ask because the screen used in the Dell 2005fpw is the same as the Apple screen. You could find one for well below your budget but it looks like you don't like Dells for some reason so that might be out.

 

[SunSamurai]

Yeah I know it is. But apples uses differant methods to actually interprit the incomeing signal. Methods that dont cuase the horrid banding in any model, and im not going to risk getting a A00 or A01 rev and have to send the dell back.

The Apple was beautiful, but not $750 beautiful, thats why i didnt consider it, but instead the Dell.

PS i dont dislike the dell. It has many great features that I couldent find in any other monitor and would of gotten it if i didnt find this gym of a Samsung. The banding issues and people haveing MORE issues with sending theirs back for a peroper rev.. one.. two.. THREE times scared me off.

I know the 215 has its issues, but they arnt something nearly as widespread.

 

[Elfear]

Originally posted by: aeternitas
Yeah I know it is. But apples uses differant methods to actually interprit the incomeing signal. Methods that dont cuase the horrid banding in any model, and im not going to risk getting a A00 or A01 rev and have to send the dell back.

The Apple was beautiful, but not $750 beautiful, thats why i didnt consider it, but instead the Dell.

PS i dont dislike the dell. It has many great features that I couldent find in any other monitor and would of gotten it if i didnt find this gym of a Samsung. The banding issues and people haveing MORE issues with sending theirs back for a peroper rev.. one.. two.. THREE times scared me off.

I know the 215 has its issues, but they arnt something nearly as widespread.

I wasn't aware that people were still sending their 2005fpws back. I know there was some concern when they first came out with backlight bleeding, but that was quite a while ago. Of the five or six 2005fpw's I've bought in the last 1.5 years, none of them have had any issues.

 

[SunSamurai]

Originally posted by: Elfear

Originally posted by: aeternitas
Yeah I know it is. But apples uses differant methods to actually interprit the incomeing signal. Methods that dont cuase the horrid banding in any model, and im not going to risk getting a A00 or A01 rev and have to send the dell back.

The Apple was beautiful, but not $750 beautiful, thats why i didnt consider it, but instead the Dell.

PS i dont dislike the dell. It has many great features that I couldent find in any other monitor and would of gotten it if i didnt find this gym of a Samsung. The banding issues and people haveing MORE issues with sending theirs back for a peroper rev.. one.. two.. THREE times scared me off.

I know the 215 has its issues, but they arnt something nearly as widespread.

I wasn't aware that people were still sending their 2005fpws back. I know there was some concern when they first came out with backlight bleeding, but that was quite a while ago. Of the five or six 2005fpw's I've bought in the last 1.5 years, none of them have had any issues.

I did consider the 2005fpw over the 2007, but wasnt willing to spend the money on a screen that is nearly three years old. It was just a 2007, slightly less attractive, slightly less advanced, and with differant "could be" issues than the 2007. Read too many reviews about both. leaking light, bad gradiants. I mean come on. How does this stuff pass QA?

Just wasnt willing to risk it if one of too many could be problems arose to spend the perhaps weeks of time dealing with dell to finally get a working monitor. As it is now Im getting something better and more reliable than either and 3 inches less than the 2407 for $100 less per inch!

 

[SunSamurai]

EDIT: reply posted without wanting to

 

[SunSamurai]

Got it today. Still calibration and messing around with it. First impressions are nearly always going to be "omg lyke wow" so Ill hold off on that till i get a better idea of what it does in the next day. messed around with pip/pbp and such. very usefull. The integrated speakers are very 'tinny' but they are at a bevel down into the monitor and is well hidden. The blue LED on the power button is attractive without being annoying. The base is generis round, but black so youre not going to see it really. Rubber under helps keep it in place nicely. I am in VGA mode currently, as havent restarted yet to enable DVI. ven in VGA this thing is very very sharp. Being 21 rather than 20.1 inches the pixels are bigger, and if you know anything about digital photography, the bigger the pixel, the better the signal (SnR). Many settings.

1. NO banding. (for an LCD)
2. Very little ghoasting. hardcore gamers of the "high framerate pixel perfect aim" catagory WILL be bothered by the ghoasting. EVERYONE else can deal with it. It IS very little, but can become a bother when youre trying for a headshot at a high pace. WoW and the like isnt going to be a problem here.

 

[kmmatney]

I have a Samsung 213T at work. The biger pixels are nice. I had an LCD with smaller pixels before and my eyes would hurt from looking at the tiny pixels all day. it doesn't help that I have an eye disease...

 

[Tweakin]

The 215tw is a sweet monitor...I'm sure you will enjoy it...I do!

 

[SunSamurai]

I have so far.


A small review.
http://www.dailytech.com/Article.aspx?newsid=3442&red=y#comments

Scroll down a bit.

 

[LittleNemoNES]

NEC 20wmgx2 is a little more but certainly worth it. Colors look natural cos its 8 bit and it 6500k accurate (with some minor tweaking). Not to mention it has deep blacks. I love my monitor and wouldn't buy anything else. Unless of course they make a 1900x1200 version