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Gordon Freemen

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WOW that's a great deal on an high end Msi TF GTX 570 I would hop on that one as it is faster than the 7850 and you would be hard pressed to find one as cheap especially a high end model like Msi TF edition.
 
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degenerator said:
So I should get the 7850 over the GTX 570?
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OCed 7850 barely closes the gap in the vast majority of games in retrospect get which one can be had for cheaper because they trade blows though when the GTX 570 wins it wins large although driver increments will most likely improve the 7850 performance over time.
 
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Gordon Freemen said:
OCed 7850 barely closes the gap in the vast majority of games in retrospect get which one can be had for cheaper because they trade blows though when the GTX 570 wins it wins large although driver increments will most likely improve the 7850 performance over time.
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Dude you've been spewing that crap for days about how great you think the 480/570 is. The 570 is a joke and will likely blow up when overclocked. The 580? Overpriced
 
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If you don't mind try and see what you can pick up second hand, managed to get a GTX 590 for £180 :)
 
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Don Karnage said:
Dude you've been spewing that crap for days about how great you think the 480/570 is. The 570 is a joke and will likely blow up when overclocked. The 580? Overpriced
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Actually the 570 is considered one of Nvidias best card to date by many professional reviewers like this http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/gpu_displays/nvidia_gtx570_review/8 . Without sounding like a biased fanboy Nvidia never really has offered good value they have always been priced ether just over the AMD's or WAY!!! over the AMD card GTX 580 pricing case in point. Both camps have excellent performing cards but right now I am liking EVGAs build quality and Warranty policy which is why it seems I am partial to Nvidia at this time. EVGA cards have never failed on me and I have owned many since the 6800 Ultra.
 
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So I should just get the GTX 570? Im so confused right now :s, can someone just post an accurate comparison, I should also point out I have no intention of overclocking; scared I might fry something.
 
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degenerator said:
So I should just get the GTX 570? Im so confused right now :s, can someone just post an accurate comparison, I should also point out I have no intention of overclocking; scared I might fry something.
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I have a gtx570 and I would still tell you to get the 7850. the 7850 only needs to be oced by 15% to beat the gtx570. most 7850 cards oc to 25% or better. even oced it will still use way less power than the gtx570 and has 2gb of vram instead of just 1.25gb on the gtx570. the only reason to get a gtx570 is if you prefer an Nvidia card.
 
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degenerator said:
I am looking for a graphics card for under £200, so far I have looked at the GTX 560 TI which is £168, and I have also found a GTX 570 for £188 but I am unsure which one is better, and if there are any other graphics cards on the market that are better, and that are in the same price range.
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Get this. Thank me later.
 
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+1 to 7850 2GB, it's the best choice at that price point until NVIDIA releases GTX 660 Ti
 
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lehtv said:
+1 to 7850 2GB, it's the best choice at that price point until NVIDIA releases GTX 660 Ti
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The only best bang for the buck gaming cards right now are the 7850 and gtx670. The 5 series cards are imho overpriced and run hot compared to their 28nm brethren Until the 660 is released....
 
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Yeah, MSI Twin Frozr II is a good choice. Better to pay a little extra for a card with good cooling.

OC'ing is very safe if you do it right. Watch the temperatures with programs like MSI Afterburner (which you can also use to OC) or CPUID HWmonitor while using OCCT for error and stability checking (must pass 20min minimum, 1hr recommended). Increase the clocks in small steps e.g. 25-50Mhz at a time. Increase voltage in small steps once you get into trouble with stability, then test again, then increase MHz, then volts etc. Of course it's possible to also just go straight for a certain voltage+MHz combo and see if it's stable but for a beginner at OC I recommend the incremental approach.

With that in mind, I don't recommend spending too much extra for a pre-overclocked card. All 7850's overclock well, you don't need to pay a £20-30 premium to get to a decent OC. I made this mistake when a bought my Gigabyte Super Overclock 560 Ti - the factory OC was too good to pass up but I could've saved money with an MSI 560 Ti Twin Frozr. In fact I've had to downclock the Gigabyte to get to the temperatures and noise levels I'm comfortable with.
 
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Whatever you do, avoid the 7850s using the 7770 PCB. Sapphire, Asus and MSI your best bet with custom cooling even if you have to pay a bit extra. Most 7850s can do 20% overclocks on stock voltage.
 
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lehtv said:
Yeah, MSI Twin Frozr II is a good choice. Better to pay a little extra for a card with good cooling.

OC'ing is very safe if you do it right. Watch the temperatures with programs like MSI Afterburner (which you can also use to OC) or CPUID HWmonitor while using OCCT for error and stability checking (must pass 20min minimum, 1hr recommended). Increase the clocks in small steps e.g. 25-50Mhz at a time. Increase voltage in small steps once you get into trouble with stability, then test again, then increase MHz, then volts etc. Of course it's possible to also just go straight for a certain voltage+MHz combo and see if it's stable but for a beginner at OC I recommend the incremental approach.

With that in mind, I don't recommend spending too much extra for a pre-overclocked card. All 7850's overclock well, you don't need to pay a £20-30 premium to get to a decent OC. I made this mistake when a bought my Gigabyte Super Overclock 560 Ti - the factory OC was too good to pass up but I could've saved money with an MSI 560 Ti Twin Frozr. In fact I've had to downclock the Gigabyte to get to the temperatures and noise levels I'm comfortable with.
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Actually the card I linked is 7850 power edition from MSI.It is using Twin Frozr IV cooler and according to guru3d and many other sites its performance is awesome.
 
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Jaydip said:
Did u check my links by any chance? :p
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Yes I did check your links, I don't know if I'm wrong or not, but to me it looks like I'm paying an extra £25 with no actual improvement.
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/2gb-...4800mhz-gddr5-28nm-gpu-900mhz-dl-dvi-hdmi-mdp

lehtv said:
Yeah, MSI Twin Frozr II is a good choice. Better to pay a little extra for a card with good cooling.

OC'ing is very safe if you do it right. Watch the temperatures with programs like MSI Afterburner (which you can also use to OC) or CPUID HWmonitor while using OCCT for error and stability checking (must pass 20min minimum, 1hr recommended). Increase the clocks in small steps e.g. 25-50Mhz at a time. Increase voltage in small steps once you get into trouble with stability, then test again, then increase MHz, then volts etc. Of course it's possible to also just go straight for a certain voltage+MHz combo and see if it's stable but for a beginner at OC I recommend the incremental approach.

With that in mind, I don't recommend spending too much extra for a pre-overclocked card. All 7850's overclock well, you don't need to pay a £20-30 premium to get to a decent OC. I made this mistake when a bought my Gigabyte Super Overclock 560 Ti - the factory OC was too good to pass up but I could've saved money with an MSI 560 Ti Twin Frozr. In fact I've had to downclock the Gigabyte to get to the temperatures and noise levels I'm comfortable with.
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If it isn't too much to ask, could you tell me the recommended temperature to keep it at, I wouldn't want to push it too far and have to buy a new graphics card.
 
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Personally I want temperature to be under 80C. Graphics cards can usually handle more than that physically but it's just to keep it safe. Some prefer 85C some 75C some even less, it's a personal thing - the important point is that your preference is well below the physical maximum they can handle.
 
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degenerator said:
Yes I did check your links, I don't know if I'm wrong or not, but to me it looks like I'm paying an extra £25 with no actual improvement.
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/2gb-...4800mhz-gddr5-28nm-gpu-900mhz-dl-dvi-hdmi-mdp



If it isn't too much to ask, could you tell me the recommended temperature to keep it at, I wouldn't want to push it too far and have to buy a new graphics card.
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Thats why I linked the Guru review along with():)
To me its totally worth it.
 
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