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Best browser for Windows?

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AraB.

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Hello,

What is the best browser for Windows? Chrome, Firefox, or Internet 😛 Explorer?
Now seriously Chrome or Firefox? OR something else?

Thank You,
Ara
 
berryracer said:
Best interface and add-ons = Firefox
Fastest browsing Speeds = Chrome
IE = Teh Sh!zn!t! Stay away from it
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Why is IE so bad? If you're thinking of saying "security" you might want to think again. Secunia has logged 67 vulnerabilities for IE9 in 2012, compared to far more than that for Firefox (I stopped counting once the sum was greater than 67).

Mozilla also doesn't bother patching anything but the latest version of Firefox. Not sure about you but I'd rather not have Facebook integrated into my browser, especially given their recent account information sales snafu.


To the OP, I personally use Chrome on my systems, with IE as my go-to fallback. All three will do well for browsing (there are very few sites that break any more, and if they do, I'd say blame the site dev for breaking things).
 
I use a combination of Firefox (primarily) and IE. IE's ability to put web sites on the taskbar is something I find very handy, for things like my Google Calendar, my work's webmail, and a few other things.
 
Zxian said:
Why is IE so bad? If you're thinking of saying "security" you might want to think again. Secunia has logged 67 vulnerabilities for IE9 in 2012, compared to far more than that for Firefox (I stopped counting once the sum was greater than 67).

Mozilla also doesn't bother patching anything but the latest version of Firefox. Not sure about you but I'd rather not have Facebook integrated into my browser, especially given their recent account information sales snafu.
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I would have to check my facts here, but it certainly used to be the case that Microsoft took longer to fix vulnerabilities than the makers of other major browsers. If you factor that in to the overall security to a product (a longer period of time for a vulnerability to remain unpatched), it alters things quite a bit. However, as I said, I would need to check what the response times are nowadays.

- edit - I just read the secunia browser comparison, it looks like MS have improved somewhat. Have you seen the amount of Chrome vulnerabilities when you criticised Firefox? I thought Firefox's was high but Chrome's knocks it out the park! If you're going to argue on this point then you should be recommending Opera, according to these stats.

Facebook integration in Firefox? None here, I don't ever remember seeing any anywhere... are you sure that you didn't have some add-on installed?

Also, I'm fairly sure Google only patches the latest version of Chrome, but you don't seem to have a problem with that either:

To the OP, I personally use Chrome on my systems, with IE as my go-to fallback. All three will do well for browsing (there are very few sites that break any more, and if they do, I'd say blame the site dev for breaking things).
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I was reading something the other day talking about the most exploited products. Java took 56% of the list, followed by Adobe Flash Player and Adobe Reader. That tells me that it isn't so much about which browser you use these days but how secure its configuration is. Which is why I only have one plug-in installed and NoScript 🙂
 
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With all the allegations of Google spying on, tracking, and saving data on users in various Google programs, Chrome would be my last pick.

If you have Windows 7-8 then IE10 is very fast, if you have 64bit then IE or Opera might by your only real choices.
 
Socio said:
With all the allegations of Google spying on, tracking, and saving data on users in various Google programs, Chrome would be my last pick.

If you have Windows 7-8 then IE10 is very fast, if you have 64bit then IE or Opera might by your only real choices.
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Facebook does the same thing. The big difference is that Google makes their money by keeping your information internal. Facebook makes theirs by giving it out. If you're really paranoid about it, just use Chromium.

My earlier criticism of Firefox was mostly to shine a bit of good light on IE. I'm well aware of the number of vulnerabilities that have been exposed with Chrome. The numbering schemes in both the Mozilla and Google camps are downright silly IMO. I haven't seen much since.... Chrome 8 (?) that I feel has really warranted a major release numbering. Same goes for Firefox, although admittedly I haven't used it as my primary browser since FF2.

Firefox 17 adds their Social API, targeted mainly at providing Facebook Messenger integration to the browser.

https://www.facebook.com/about/messenger-for-firefox
 
I use Firefox. I value the customizability, and that it's open source. I also have...

Chromium - stripped down, and not very extensible. It lacks control for the user.

Midori - Ultralight. It has it's problems, but I like it for quick, or specialized use.

Links2 - Console browser I keep for special purposes

Elinks - text browser. Good for emergency use, or very sparse networks.

Seamonkey - fully featured suite. Uses Mozilla code, and integrates several web features. Good for portable use on a thumb drive. It's also open source. I use for i2p traffic.

Honorable mention...

Opera - Nice browser, but has occasional rendering issues. It can also be a little complicated to tweak, but at least you can. I'd use it as a secondary browser in place of Chromium if it were open source.
 
I've been using Chrome for some time now and interim FF releases haven't been good enough to get me to switch back. Chrome's syncing of everything from extensions to settings to bookmarks is phenomenal and I don't think FF's sync matches up to it yet and mobile FF is just plain slow.

I'm already too invested in Google's infrastructure to worry about their data-mining.
 
Socio said:
With all the allegations of Google spying on, tracking, and saving data on users in various Google programs, Chrome would be my last pick.

If you have Windows 7-8 then IE10 is very fast, if you have 64bit then IE or Opera might by your only real choices.
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If you're insinuating that Chrome secretly spies on its users, there are no such allegations. Chromes privacy policy is pretty clear on if, what, and when data is sent.

Anything that can even be considered privacy intrusive in Chrome is either opt-in or can be opted out of in the privacy settings.


mikeymikec said:
- edit - I just read the secunia browser comparison, it looks like MS have improved somewhat. Have you seen the amount of Chrome vulnerabilities when you criticised Firefox? I thought Firefox's was high but Chrome's knocks it out the park! If you're going to argue on this point then you should be recommending Opera, according to these stats.
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Both the Chromium and Firefox code base is open-source so I tend to think the number of vulnerabilities found are inflated in comparison to browsers like IE and Opera.

You also have to take into account what types of vulnerabilities they are.

According to cvedetails;

Chrome has had 691 vulnerabilities since 2009 with 10 resulting in public exploits
55 (8% of total vulnerabilities) were code execution vulnerabilities

The vast majority of Chromes vulnerabilities are denial of service.

Firefox has had 496 vulnerabilities since 2009 with 20 resulting in public exploits
281 (57% of total vulnerabilities) were code execution vulnerabilities

Internet Explorer has had 49 vulnerabilities since 2009 with 10 resulting in public exploits
37 (76% of total vulnerabilities) were code execution vulnerabilities


http://www.cvedetails.com/product/15031/Google-Chrome.html?vendor_id=1224
http://www.cvedetails.com/product/3264/Mozilla-Firefox.html?vendor_id=452
http://www.cvedetails.com/product/9900/Microsoft-Internet-Explorer.html?vendor_id=26
 
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jkroeder said:
If you're insinuating that Chrome secretly spies on its users, there are no such allegations. Chromes privacy policy is pretty clear on if, what, and when data is sent.

Anything that can even be considered privacy intrusive in Chrome is either opt-in or can be opted out of in the privacy settings.
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Admittedly I think Google Chrome is probably innocent of anything non-consensual and privacy invasive, unlike the rest of Google 🙂
 
I prefer firefox, I like their model, open source and all. It may not be the "fastest" browser but it has my favorite extensions and I don't quite trust google.
 
I just wish that Firefox would get up to speed with multi-threading. It doesn't affect me a great deal but I'm sure it would stop my wife whining about the tonne of tabs she has open weighing down on performance.
 
Agreed, I do hope that FF adds proper multi threading, and better sandboxing for plugins, and the browser itself.
 
Chiefcrowe said:
I prefer firefox, I like their model, open source and all. It may not be the "fastest" browser but it has my favorite extensions and I don't quite trust google.
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i agree with this and always go with firefox for this reason

EXCEPT when i want to read websites that are in a foreign language... for that i use Chrome andfor that purpose chrome is fantastic.

having multiple browsers on your machine is not a problem
 
mikeymikec said:
Admittedly I think Google Chrome is probably innocent of anything non-consensual and privacy invasive, unlike the rest of Google 🙂
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lol

chrome is Google
Google is the company driving around in cars snooping people's wifi...
that doesn't happen without intentional human action.

but hey, when that same corporate structure builds a browser it should be trusted implicitly... riiiiiiiight.
 
colonelciller said:
lol

chrome is Google
Google is the company driving around in cars snooping people's wifi...
that doesn't happen without intentional human action.

but hey, when that same corporate structure builds a browser it should be trusted implicitly... riiiiiiiight.
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The wifi capturing was explained and anyone with an unencrypted wireless network should have no expectation of privacy anyway.
 
Nothinman said:
The wifi capturing was explained and anyone with an unencrypted wireless network should have no expectation of privacy anyway.
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the wifi capturing, recording and archiving spontaneously occured without intentional human action? the programs for this wrote themselves?

and it is somehow okay for a corporation to systematically spy on people who are not computer literate?

WOW
 
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