Bernie Sander's speech at Liberty University today

[Fern]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fOPBIc56gU

Great stuff, this man should be president. Pretty ballsy of him to go to a very conservative university to speak.

Edit: And Liberty University should be commended for having an open mind to invite him to speak.

"Ballsy" not found.

When candidates go to speak at Liberty Univ it's the media that excoriates them. Sanders never had to be concerned about that.

Fern

 

[BoberFett]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fOPBIc56gU

Great stuff, this man should be president. Pretty ballsy of him to go to a very conservative university to speak.

Edit: And Liberty University should be commended for having an open mind to invite him to speak.

Nowadays, bizarrely, many "conservatives" are more open minded than many "liberals". Progressives cannot tolerate disagreement.

 

[BoberFett]

they want bernie to win because they think he is easier to beat in the primary. Its all nice right now but as soon as he is the candidate then the gloves come off and they will pull out that he is a commie and evil atheist socialist. The thing is they are out of touch and words like commie dont mean anything anymore.

You're so stupid I can smell your brain cells burning from here every time you post.

 

[trenchfoot]

......And the following day during another mandatory assembly, the faculty and staff reiterated their contention to the student body that they now would fully realize the truth behind that old adage to wit: "to defeat your enemy, you must know your enemy."

Seriously though, Sanders sharing his views there is a good thing no matter the rhyme or reason. Sharing a view, whether contrary to or in sympathy with the views of the audience is thought provoking. And to me, that's productive no matter what.

What's that other old saying again? Something like "Good or bad, dimmest to brightest, everybody's got something useful to say".

 

[OutHouse]

He is a socialist, how can he run on the Democrat ticket?

I don't give a flying fuck what a socialist says, I'll never vote for one.

 

[JSt0rm]

You're so stupid I can smell your brain cells burning from here every time you post.

He is a socialist, how can he run on the Democrat ticket?

I don't give a flying fuck what a socialist says, I'll never vote for one.

:sneaky)

 

[lothar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fOPBIc56gU

Great stuff, this man should be president. Pretty ballsy of him to go to a very conservative university to speak.

Edit: And Liberty University should be commended for having an open mind to invite him to speak.

Do you really think Donald Trump would have a problem speaking at any university(whether conservative or liberal)? No one running in this race has more balls than Trump. If that's all it takes, he'd win the election and I'm sure that you'd vote for him.

The only people that would be afraid to speak at liberal universities like Berkley and HBCU's are people like Ted Cruz. Even Rand Paul has visited many liberal and "Black" universities without issues.

 

[kage69]

He is a socialist, how can he run on the Democrat ticket?

I don't give a flying fuck what a socialist says, I'll never vote for one.

 

[JSt0rm]

What do you expect from the same guy who posted an Isis sympathizer photo from 2 years ago as current refugees.

 

[irishScott]

Have to say I disagree with him on many issues, but given the current crop of bullshitters if he got the nomination I'd probably vote for him on his integrity alone. If I'm going to be screwed I might as well be honestly screwed, and he does get a couple of things right IMO.

 

[IGBT]

typical grievance monger gibberish from a 60's era grey haired burn out.

 

[boomerang]

The cost of Sanders' proposed programs is calculated at $18 Trillion. Are we to have yet another election decided by an electorate made up of "believers" that have no concern or comprehension of the math behind promises that can't be kept? Probably so would be my guess.

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2015/09/the-cost-of-bernie-18-trillion.php

In all, he backs at least $18 trillion in new spending over a decade, according to a tally by The Wall Street Journal, a sum that alarms conservatives and gives even many Democrats pause. Mr. Sanders sees the money as going to essential government services at a time of increasing strain on the middle class.

His agenda includes an estimated $15 trillion for a government-run health-care program that covers every American, plus large sums to rebuild roads and bridges, expand Social Security and make tuition free at public colleges.

To pay for it, Mr. Sanders, a Vermont independent running for the Democratic nomination, has so far detailed tax increases that could bring in as much as $6.5 trillion over 10 years, according to his staff.

I've said before that I saw a value in hastening the inevitable. Sanders may just be the right guy at the right time for that.

 

[Newell Steamer]

TIL Liberty University supports Hitler, literally.

 

[irishScott]

The cost of Sanders' proposed programs is calculated at $18 Trillion. Are we to have yet another election decided by an electorate made up of "believers" that have no concern or comprehension of the math behind promises that can't be kept? Probably so would be my guess.

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2015/09/the-cost-of-bernie-18-trillion.php

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I've said before that I saw a value in hastening the inevitable. Sanders may just be the right guy at the right time for that.

Well the establishment of both parties has screwed us for some time now, and we have two non-establishment candidates that have a snowball's chance in hell at clearing the primaries: Trump and Sanders. Between the two it's Sanders by a mile, and between a true believer who might, just MIGHT produce some real change or an establishment candidate, the choice has to be real change at this point. I liked the look of Jeb Bush before the primary, but since he's started talking he sounds more and more like a repeat of his brother with fewer and fewer exceptions. I'd love for Jim Webb to get the nod, but he's too moderate to pass muster with the far left and too lacking in drama to rally the rabble.

As for promises that can't be kept, I'm sure Sanders of all people is aware of how an 18 trillion dollar program would get laughed out of congress, even if Democrats somehow regain control of both houses. But kudos to him for putting his views out there and sticking by them. Combined with his record, he has authenticity beyond charisma.

At the very least a nomination of either Trump, Sanders or both would be a very concrete indicator of a party establishment losing power, and perhaps the establishments of said parties might be forced to consider that their heads are thoroughly up their asses.

 

[flexy]

The "Socialism means free shit for the unentitled" is getting SOOOO old. I wish reps would come up with something different, for a change.

 

[HomerJS]

while not quite stupid enough to be religious himself, he doesn't shy away from trying to use it to push his agenda. Disgusting. He won't get the dem nom, and none of those people would vote for him even if he did. All so dumb.

And as if people are lining up to speak at fucking liberty university ("at least they let him speak..." lol).

This is the exact description of Ronald Reagan

 

[kage69]

The "Socialism means free shit for the unentitled" is getting SOOOO old. I wish reps would come up with something different, for a change.

I hear ya. New information can be painful for some minds though. Easier to just lather up the character assassination, throw in a little GOP math, rinse, repeat.



"Banana Republicans. LOL."

 

[fskimospy]

The cost of Sanders' proposed programs is calculated at $18 Trillion. Are we to have yet another election decided by an electorate made up of "believers" that have no concern or comprehension of the math behind promises that can't be kept? Probably so would be my guess.

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2015/09/the-cost-of-bernie-18-trillion.php

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I've said before that I saw a value in hastening the inevitable. Sanders may just be the right guy at the right time for that.

The cost of Sanders' proposed programs is $18 trillion. $15 trillion on universal healthcare and $3 trillion on everything else. Universal healthcare would of course replace current insurance for just about everyone.

Funny thing is that we're already projected to spend $18 trillion on health care over the next 10 years. If his plan actually worked as advertised we'd have health care for everyone and $3 trillion more to spend on whatever else we wanted.

I for one am totally shocked that our very well educated friend here forgot to mention that. (or more likely, he didn't know and was duped by a right wing blog again)

 

[kage69]

The cost of Sanders' proposed programs is $18 trillion. $15 trillion on universal healthcare and $3 trillion on everything else. Universal healthcare would of course replace current insurance for just about everyone.

Funny thing is that we're already projected to spend $18 trillion on health care over the next 10 years. If his plan actually worked as advertised we'd have health care for everyone and $3 trillion more to spend on whatever else we wanted.

I for one am totally shocked that our very well educated friend here forgot to mention that. (or more likely, he didn't know and was duped by a right wing blog again)

Pictures goood, math baaad! Another sad boomerfail for the pile. Waaaa waaaaaaa

 

[nageov3t]

The "Socialism means free shit for the unentitled" is getting SOOOO old. I wish reps would come up with something different, for a change.

I mean, isn't his entire campaign based on "free shit for everyone!" though?

free college, free health care... he's even calling for more federal holidays.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Why do we Americans think the lower cost state schools & healthcare aren't good enough for us?
Seriously every place else in the world where you'd want to live is able to do it.

 

[Virge_]

Have to say I disagree with him on many issues, but given the current crop of bullshitters if he got the nomination I'd probably vote for him on his integrity alone. If I'm going to be screwed I might as well be honestly screwed, and he does get a couple of things right IMO.

Out of sincere curiosity, what do you disagree with and why?

This is not an attempt to argue your points - I am trying to educate myself on the stances against him, and so far have encountered none that I agree with.. in fact, most are inaccurate.

I don't care about accuracy. I want your genuine opinion, and I don't need any sources or facts - just what YOU think.

 

[OutHouse]

What do you expect from the same guy who posted an Isis sympathizer photo from 2 years ago as current refugees.

Yes or no. Should be easy for you.

Has sanders self identified as a socialist?

 

[jackstar7]

Yes or no. Should be easy for you.

Has sanders self identified as a socialist?

Labels: simplifying things down to their lowest com-- oh wait...

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Has sanders self identified as a socialist?

This is an excellent question coming from someone who self-identifies as an outhouse.