Belgium lawmakers considering banning burqas

[JTsyo]

belgium to ban burqa?

Guess there's a real fear of Muslims in Europe. I was surprised to hear that they already had local laws against this. The way the law is written, I would assume it would also ban costumes that cover your face in public.
I see their point of it's not Danish culture and new immigrants would know the law is in place before coming but I would think current citizens and immigrants should be grandfathered in.

 

[Infohawk]

I for one don't have a problem with Europe being the land of European culture. Muslims have plenty of shit holes to do their thing in. They don't need to corrupt the West with their hogwash. If they want to come to Europe they just intend to become Europeans and adopt European culture.

*wait for it...*

 

[Noobtastic]

So what?

Belgium is a sovereign country. It can do as it pleases.

Europe is an historically racist, xenophobic, intolerant, Jew-hating continent.

Their reaction to Muslim immigrants is offensive, but is not inconsistent with their bigoted reaction to Jews, Gypsies, etc.

Look how Americans react to Muslim citizens. There are no anti-Muslim protests. Muslims do not live in secluded ghettos, and our government does not pass bills restricting their cultural sensibilities.

If Europe was truly concerned about Islamic trolls, they should stop sucking up to the Muslim world and arming Islamic apartheid states. Stop sucking the dick of Saudi princes and protecting Hamas, Hezbollah, etc.

What goes around comes around. Europe deserves all it gets.

 

[CanOWorms]

Even if all these people adopt Belgian names, language, customs, etc. it will never be enough. Next will be demands to change skin color, religion, etc. They want a Taliban-like state, but with "culture" instead of religion as the primary driver.

Belgium is already a fragile and almost-failed state. Its social and political situation is leading to conflict. Are we going to sit by while yet another genocide occurs in Europe?

The European advancement to genocide is the greatest security threat to the United States and the world. All the Belgian politicians who voted for the ban should be abducted or assassinated for terrorism.

 

[Freshgeardude]

Muslims in Europe are demanding shariah law. the neighborhoods full of muslims are incapable of being serviced (police, fire rescue, etc) because the workers fear for their lives.

they are getting a taste of societies like Iran and Saudi Arabia

 

[Narmer]

Guys, America is the primary exception here. The rest of the world, Europe, Japan, China, you name it, does not like foreigners. You and your parents can live in Korea for over a hundred years but if you are not Japanese, you are not considered equal in the eyes of the law. Deal with it.

 

[Lemon law]

We miss the point, its the damn dumbest thing any society can do. Their delusion is that they can mess with maybe the most powerful force in human history, namely nationalism, and in so doing will not inherit the wind.

Smarter societies glory in their ethic diversity and glory i them,

 

[Infohawk]

So what?

Look how Americans react to Muslim citizens. There are no anti-Muslim protests. Muslims do not live in secluded ghettos, and our government does not pass bills restricting their cultural sensibilities.

You do understand we have much fewer Muslims right?

 

[Infohawk]

*wait for it....BOOM COW in on the eurohate *

All the Belgian politicians who voted for the ban should be abducted or assassinated for terrorism.

COW hates white people. The only logical conclusion from his anti-European rants.

 

[Infohawk]

Guys, America is the primary exception here. The rest of the world, Europe, Japan, China, you name it, does not like foreigners. You and your parents can live in Korea for over a hundred years but if you are not Japanese, you are not considered equal in the eyes of the law. Deal with it.

America is an exception and it makes sense. This country was founded on immigration. Japan is the traditional home of the Japanese people. Europe is the traditional home of white people. Does every country need to be a melting pot like the US? No.

 

[Ancalagon44]

I cant believe the hypocrisy in this thread. Europe has been suffering from an immigration problem for the past decade. Muslims from Islamic countries have been flooding in due to lax immigration laws, draining resources, and refusing to integrate with the local population. They have been also been responsible for a lot of violence against women, such as honour killings. Islamic states refuse to allow churches to be built, yet when a European country refuses to allow the burqa, a symbol of female oppression in Islam, to be worn, suddenly they are Jew haters. WTF?

And America is not the exception, you guys like things to stay American. Do you know how difficult it is to emigrate to America? Its the most difficult country in the world. And what law did Arizona recently pass? America may have been founded on immigration, but its current inhabitants are not very fond of the idea.

OP, what does this have to do with Danish culture? You realize the Danish are from Denmark and the Belgian from Belgium right?

How many of you even been to Europe, read the newspapers about what the Islamic immigrants are doing? No one?

 

[CanOWorms]

*wait for it....BOOM COW in on the eurohate *



COW hates white people. The only logical conclusion from his anti-European rants.

People who criticize Israel are anti-semites. The only logical conclusion from those types of rants.

 

[CanOWorms]

America is an exception and it makes sense. This country was founded on immigration. Japan is the traditional home of the Japanese people. Europe is the traditional home of white people. Does every country need to be a melting pot like the US? No.

Europe has a great history of both immigration and emigration.

 

[Noobtastic]

You do understand we have much fewer Muslims right?

so?

muslims are far more assimilated in the USA than in Europe. Everyone knows this.

 

[Infohawk]

Europe has a great history of both immigration and emigration.

So what? Relative to what? The entire world is constantly changing and has a history of immigration and emigration. Bottom line is the people in Belgium now should have a say over what goes on in their society. It's not like there aren't plenty of places to engage in bizzare religious practices like burqa-wearing elsewhere.

 

[CanOWorms]

I cant believe the hypocrisy in this thread. Europe has been suffering from an immigration problem for the past decade. Muslims from Islamic countries have been flooding in due to lax immigration laws, draining resources, and refusing to integrate with the local population.

A lot of them are coming from devastated former European colonies. They are not draining resources. Most European countries are actually declining in population by staggering amounts. A young population will be needed to maintain their social systems. The integration issue is also a commentary on both immigrants and natives.

They have been also been responsible for a lot of violence against women, such as honour killings. Islamic states refuse to allow churches to be built, yet when a European country refuses to allow the burqa, a symbol of female oppression in Islam, to be worn, suddenly they are Jew haters. WTF?

There is a massive wave of anti-minority sentiment in Europe. There is a lot of hatred against Muslims, Jews, Roma, etc.

And America is not the exception, you guys like things to stay American. Do you know how difficult it is to emigrate to America? Its the most difficult country in the world. And what law did Arizona recently pass? America may have been founded on immigration, but its current inhabitants are not very fond of the idea.

That's true, there is a lot of dislike of illegal immigration. However, legal immigration is not viewed negatively. All immigrants are viewed as hostile targets in Europe. It's even open season on refugees over there.

OP, what does this have to do with Danish culture? You realize the Danish are from Denmark and the Belgian from Belgium right?

How many of you even been to Europe, read the newspapers about what the Islamic immigrants are doing? No one?

Have you ever been to Europe, read the newspapers about what the European governments are doing? No one?

It's on the verge of genocide.

 

[Infohawk]

so?

muslims are far more assimilated in the USA than in Europe. Everyone knows this.

A) No it's not that obvious. We've had our problems with American muslims trying to plot terror attacks. Or haven't you seen the news?

B) Even if this is true, look at the numbers. It's easier to assimilate 0.5% of the population (USA) than 10% of the population (France).

Meanwhile, Europeans could get high and mighty about not having a recent history of persecution of blacks. But so what? It's comparing apples and oranges.

 

[Infohawk]

It's on the verge of genocide.

No it's really not and this is where you lose all credibility. There are 10 million muslims in France for example. They must be failing miserably at their "genocide."

 

[CanOWorms]

So what? Relative to what? The entire world is constantly changing and has a history of immigration and emigration. Bottom line is the people in Belgium now should have a say over what goes on in their society. It's not like there aren't plenty of places to engage in bizzare religious practices like burqa-wearing elsewhere.

Sorry, what the Belgians are doing has affect beyond their borders. The swirling of hatred of minorities with the deeply-ingrained anti-Americanism in Europe creates terrorists targeting and killing Americans. Look at 9/11 - several of the terrorists were radicalized in Germany.

Your white-only utopia will lead to WW3.

 

[CanOWorms]

No it's really not and this is where you lose all credibility. There are 10 million muslims in France for example. They must be failing miserably at their "genocide."

Sorry, but you lose all credibility when you make stuff up. Verge of genocide implies that it's not currently occurring, but it is reasonably feasible in the near future.

 

[Infohawk]

Your white-only utopia will lead to WW3.

This is about religion and culture. Not about race. Europeans want Arabs to integrate but Arabs are resistant, mostly because they are Muslims. North African jews for example have had much better success integrating.

 

[Infohawk]

Sorry, but you lose all credibility when you make stuff up. Verge of genocide implies that it's not currently occurring, but it is reasonably feasible in the near future.

Genocide is not even reasonably feasible in the near future. Anyone with any common sense would realize that some sort of neo-nazi policy would ruin a country's economy in this day and age. Maybe if you smoke enough of what you're smoking one could foresee mass deportations but there's not even a chance of hell of that happening in Europe. It's even more of a stretch to say genocide would happen.

 

[Ancalagon44]

A lot of them are coming from devastated former European colonies. They are not draining resources. Most European countries are actually declining in population by staggering amounts. A young population will be needed to maintain their social systems. The integration issue is also a commentary on both immigrants and natives.

Pakistan maybe (formerly part of India), but the rest? Afghanistan?

There is a massive wave of anti-minority sentiment in Europe. There is a lot of hatred against Muslims, Jews, Roma, etc.

No, there isnt. I used to live there - did you? Where do you draw your facts from? I would say a majority of Europeans are concerned about immigration but too liberal to discriminate against them, while a minority want their rights as natural citizens of Europe protected by law.

That's true, there is a lot of dislike of illegal immigration. However, legal immigration is not viewed negatively. All immigrants are viewed as hostile targets in Europe. It's even open season on refugees over there.

Illegal immigration is intensely disliked (obviously) and legal immigration is all but impossible. H1B visas are gone on the day they are available, and getting a green card is like winning the lottery. And no, all immigrants are not viewed as hostile targets over there - again where do you get this from? I lived there, are you just ignorant?

It's on the verge of genocide.

Oh please. Some of the locals are fed up, some of them are horrified at laws like these, because they are so liberal. You actually understand absolutely nothing about the situation in Europe and are just making stuff up. You honestly dont have a clue at how liberal Europe is. Even "conservative" countries like Germany defend the rights of immigrants like its the most important thing on Earth. Same in France. Do you know what an outcry there was in Europe when Switzerland banned the building of minarets? Do you know what a minaret is? Do you know anything?

 

[CanOWorms]

This is about religion and culture. Not about race.

It's about religion, culture, race, and so many other factors.

Europeans want Arabs to integrate but Arabs are resistant, mostly because they are Muslims. North African jews for example have had much better success integrating.

No.

 

[CanOWorms]

Genocide is not even reasonably feasible in the near future. Anyone with any common sense would realize that some sort of neo-nazi policy would ruin a country's economy in this day and age. Maybe if you smoke enough of what you're smoking one could foresee mass deportations but there's not even a chance of hell of that happening in Europe. It's even more of a stretch to say genocide would happen.

There are many Neo-Nazi policies today advocated by European governments.

Are you saying that those are responsible for the current Euro crisis?