Being sick sucks

LuckyTaxi

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Grrrrr ... it's been two days, I'm starting to feel better but my throat is killing me. I tried motrin and some of the drops I got from walgreen. None of it has helped so I tried ice cream. OMFG, my throat feels much better. Granted it hurts but not as much as before, i couldn't eat or drink w/o squinting since it hurt so bad.

Damn you makers of tylenol, bayer, motrin, advil! Let there be a cure and stop profiting from us!
 

Bignate603

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It mutates too quickly. The flu this year is different enough from the flu last year that vaccines don't work.
 

LuckyTaxi

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Originally posted by: Bignate603
It mutates too quickly. The flu this year is different enough from the flu last year that vaccines don't work.

I dont know what the hell I had but wednesday night my eyes were all itchy and watery. Thursday i was shivering and slept with a sweatshirt and sweatpant on. today my throat fvcking hurts. And now what do I have to look forward to? high 90 degree weather all weekend.
 

potato28

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Try not using drugs. Last time I had the flu I just waited it out and it was gone in 12 hours, no throw up or anything. Just a fever. Same goes for colds.
 

LuckyTaxi

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Originally posted by: potato28
Try not using drugs. Last time I had the flu I just waited it out and it was gone in 12 hours, no throw up or anything. Just a fever. Same goes for colds.

Yea i noticed tylenol cold didnt do anything this time around. I tried the night capsule that's supposedly drowsy but nothing. I couldnt fall asleep at all. the bodyache and hot/cold flashes were unbearable!
 
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The common cold and influenza are caused by two totally different types of viruses. (Actually, the common cold is caused by many types of viruses.)
 

rezinn

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Sounds exactly like my last weekend. Here I am 5 days later still coughing.
 

alkemyst

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there was a cure being worked on called natural selection, unfortunately the masses though doctors should save those with the common cold/flu rather than like their weak genes eradicate themselves from the genepool.
 

Kadarin

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It's far more lucrative to sell various types of cold medicine than it is to actually cure it.
 

GagHalfrunt

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Originally posted by: Random Variable
The common cold and influenza are caused by two totally different types of viruses. (Actually, the common cold is caused by many types of viruses.)

The "common" cold is actually more than 200 different strains of viruses, it's just that they produce the same symptoms. If you get one you *might* be immune from it forever, but you'll just keep catching different strains. Live to be 80 and you can have a couple of colds every year without coming close to getting all the different varieties.

As for why there's no cure, do a little research on how well mankind has cured viral diseases. We don't have much success, most we don't even make a dent in. Treatments usually involves managing symptoms and letting the immune system do the real work. Why would research be dedicated to fighting several hundred cold variants when there are serious diseases that need the work instead?
 

Siddhartha

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Originally posted by: Kadarin
It's far more lucrative to sell various types of cold medicine than it is to actually cure it.

No, let go of this paranoria. As has been stated above, alot of different virus types and strains and some bacteria cause common cold and flu like symptoms. To find "a cure" for all these different infecting agents, which are constantly changing, is an undertaking on the same scale as finding "a cure" for cancer.
 

punchkin

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Originally posted by: alkemyst
there was a cure being worked on called natural selection, unfortunately the masses though doctors should save those with the common cold/flu rather than like their weak genes eradicate themselves from the genepool.

misinformation here
 

destrekor

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Originally posted by: punchkin
Originally posted by: alkemyst
there was a cure being worked on called natural selection, unfortunately the masses though doctors should save those with the common cold/flu rather than like their weak genes eradicate themselves from the genepool.

misinformation here

I don't see any misinformation. Some people have better genes and immune systems and just don't get sick from something like the cold. I've met many people who have never had a cold or even the flu, among other illnesses.

Humans, because of morality and other nonsense, think we need to treat everyone, instead of letting natural selection run its course. Humanity would be far better if we just let go of the moral conflicts that would arise from letting someone die from an infectious disease, and just let nature run its course. Imagine how many fewer infections humanity in general would have to fight if everyone had strong immune systems simply because it was in our gene pool, since those with weaker immune systems would die without medication for every little thing.
Modern medicine is great, but in effect is hurting mankind's potential for natural adaptation, and could even be stopping potential evolution. Who says our current bodies are the best nature can offer? But due to how diluted man's gene pool, we can't even properly adapt.
Look at alligators (or is it crocodiles?) who have such a strong immune system, that they can live in the a very bad environment in terms of health conditions, all without ever falling victim to an infection from an open wound.
If we left a nasty wound open, most humans would die without medication. That's why they are looking to protein's in the blood of those creatures to see if they can apply it to modern medicine.

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punchkin

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Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: punchkin
Originally posted by: alkemyst
there was a cure being worked on called natural selection, unfortunately the masses though doctors should save those with the common cold/flu rather than like their weak genes eradicate themselves from the genepool.

misinformation here

I don't see any misinformation. Some people have better genes and immune systems and just don't get sick from something like the cold. I've met many people who have never had a cold or even the flu, among other illnesses.

Humans, because of morality and other nonsense, think we need to treat everyone, instead of letting natural selection run its course. Humanity would be far better if we just let go of the moral conflicts that would arise from letting someone die from an infectious disease, and just let nature run its course. Imagine how many fewer infections humanity in general would have to fight if everyone had strong immune systems simply because it was in our gene pool, since those with weaker immune systems would die without medication for every little thing.
Modern medicine is great, but in effect is hurting mankind's potential for natural adaptation, and could even be stopping potential evolution. Who says our current bodies are the best nature can offer? But due to how diluted man's gene pool, we can't even properly adapt.
Look at alligators (or is it crocodiles?) who have such a strong immune system, that they can live in the a very bad environment in terms of health conditions, all without ever falling victim to an infection from an open wound.
If we left a nasty wound open, most humans would die without medication. That's why they are looking to protein's in the blood of those creatures to see if they can apply it to modern medicine.

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Natural selection was never a cure for the common cold-- there never was a cure. No one is immune to cold viruses, although some may be less prone to getting infected and recover more quickly than others.

You've made an argument basically against modern medicine. For an extreme fan of "Fight Club" etc., I guess this may make sense. For almost all of the modern thinking world, it's ridiculous and stupid.

By the way, there's an extreme shortage of medicine in Third World countries. No super race of immune supermen has yet emerged. This is even with extreme overpopulation. Food for thought-- or not, I guess. {shrug}

By the way, natural selection only works if people are prevented from breeding in statistically significant numbers.
 

Baked

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That's what you get for taking drugs for everything. Your own immune system takes a back seat to drugs and fails miserably.
 
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Originally posted by: punchkin
Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: punchkin
Originally posted by: alkemyst
there was a cure being worked on called natural selection, unfortunately the masses though doctors should save those with the common cold/flu rather than like their weak genes eradicate themselves from the genepool.

misinformation here

I don't see any misinformation. Some people have better genes and immune systems and just don't get sick from something like the cold. I've met many people who have never had a cold or even the flu, among other illnesses.

Humans, because of morality and other nonsense, think we need to treat everyone, instead of letting natural selection run its course. Humanity would be far better if we just let go of the moral conflicts that would arise from letting someone die from an infectious disease, and just let nature run its course. Imagine how many fewer infections humanity in general would have to fight if everyone had strong immune systems simply because it was in our gene pool, since those with weaker immune systems would die without medication for every little thing.
Modern medicine is great, but in effect is hurting mankind's potential for natural adaptation, and could even be stopping potential evolution. Who says our current bodies are the best nature can offer? But due to how diluted man's gene pool, we can't even properly adapt.
Look at alligators (or is it crocodiles?) who have such a strong immune system, that they can live in the a very bad environment in terms of health conditions, all without ever falling victim to an infection from an open wound.
If we left a nasty wound open, most humans would die without medication. That's why they are looking to protein's in the blood of those creatures to see if they can apply it to modern medicine.

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Natural selection was never a cure for the common cold-- there never was a cure. No one is immune to cold viruses, although some may be less prone to getting infected and recover more quickly than others.

You've made an argument basically against modern medicine. For an extreme fan of "Fight Club" etc., I guess this may make sense. For almost all of the modern thinking world, it's ridiculous and stupid.

By the way, there's an extreme shortage of medicine in Third World countries. No super race of immune supermen has yet emerged. This is even with extreme overpopulation. Food for thought-- or not, I guess. {shrug}

By the way, natural selection only works if people are prevented from breeding in statistically significant numbers.

Meh, there's "enough" as in, there's enough so that while there isn't enough to cure people, there IS enough to breed resistant viruses.

My immune system works fine. Theres nothing wrong with taking a tynenol or something when sick. They don't try to cure anythinhg, just relive the symptoms.

Vaccines help the immune system make antibodies, so theres noting really wrong with them

Our immune system kicks the crap out of 99.9% of Virus's and bacteria out there, its that .01% where our immune system falters. Nothing can really cure virus', drugs only help the immune system to fight, such as causing problems with Viral replication, which lets the IS catch up with killing the damn things.

Drugs only supplant the immune system, not replace it.
 

punchkin

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Originally posted by: Baked
That's what you get for taking drugs for everything. Your own immune system takes a back seat to drugs and fails miserably.

There's definitely something to be said for taking medicine only when truly necessary and not overdoing it. One thing many people fail to realize, though, is that the reason people are sick more often today, especially in urban areas, is an explosive increase in transmission vectors, which will only get worse as global population and transportation both continue to increase. The only thing that may really get us out of this is if they start finding cures for things such as the common cold... which will obviously be a double-edged sword.
 

vhx

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I was hit with one of those 12-24 hour flu bugs in like February.

Then I got hit with a 3 week long flu in March, wasn't a pleasant time.

As for the topic, they change too much.
 

karan2008

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i never knew ice cream makes ur throat better
lol
my throat used to hurt in december for like a week
i wish i knewd earlier
 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: punchkin
Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: punchkin
Originally posted by: alkemyst
there was a cure being worked on called natural selection, unfortunately the masses though doctors should save those with the common cold/flu rather than like their weak genes eradicate themselves from the genepool.

misinformation here

I don't see any misinformation. Some people have better genes and immune systems and just don't get sick from something like the cold. I've met many people who have never had a cold or even the flu, among other illnesses.

Humans, because of morality and other nonsense, think we need to treat everyone, instead of letting natural selection run its course. Humanity would be far better if we just let go of the moral conflicts that would arise from letting someone die from an infectious disease, and just let nature run its course. Imagine how many fewer infections humanity in general would have to fight if everyone had strong immune systems simply because it was in our gene pool, since those with weaker immune systems would die without medication for every little thing.
Modern medicine is great, but in effect is hurting mankind's potential for natural adaptation, and could even be stopping potential evolution. Who says our current bodies are the best nature can offer? But due to how diluted man's gene pool, we can't even properly adapt.
Look at alligators (or is it crocodiles?) who have such a strong immune system, that they can live in the a very bad environment in terms of health conditions, all without ever falling victim to an infection from an open wound.
If we left a nasty wound open, most humans would die without medication. That's why they are looking to protein's in the blood of those creatures to see if they can apply it to modern medicine.

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Natural selection was never a cure for the common cold-- there never was a cure. No one is immune to cold viruses, although some may be less prone to getting infected and recover more quickly than others.

You've made an argument basically against modern medicine. For an extreme fan of "Fight Club" etc., I guess this may make sense. For almost all of the modern thinking world, it's ridiculous and stupid.

By the way, there's an extreme shortage of medicine in Third World countries. No super race of immune supermen has yet emerged. This is even with extreme overpopulation. Food for thought-- or not, I guess. {shrug}

By the way, natural selection only works if people are prevented from breeding in statistically significant numbers.

I was joking in part, but I think your little non-scientific brain should study on population, overcrowding and lack of nutrition with simple rats as a way to envision why those third world countries aren't doing well.

In modern times, plagues have been the resource reset.

I am hoping you are still in high school.