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richardycc

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if they are following anything with the traditional way, the groom is supposed to give you a gift equal or close to the price of the tux rental. so you might break even at the end. its your cousin, blood is thicker than water, dude!
 
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Originally posted by: ActuaryTm
Originally posted by: AStar617
This is all a digression from the main point.
Agreed. To reiterate the main point (in case there is any confusion whatsoever): you came here seeking solace for being cheap (and yes, tracking nickels and dimes at a family function is absolutely "being cheap") at a family member's wedding, and not surprisingly found none.

bwahahahaha! well said!

 

vood0g

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i think its a cultural difference.

i am vietnamese and all of the vietnamese people that i know that have been married always pay for the tuxes and dresses for the groomsmen and bridesmaid. i did that also when i got married to my wife. the tuxes were a small part of the wedding budges. the bridesmaid dresses cost us about $300/pop and thats with 6 bridesmaid.

now, the white friends/acquaintances that i've spoken to, its about a 15-25% say they pay for the clothes, and the remaining says that the wedding party pays for it on their own.

it's expected in the vietnamese culture that the bride and groom pays for these costs.
 

nakedfrog

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Originally posted by: ActuaryTm
Originally posted by: AStar617
This is all a digression from the main point.
Agreed. To reiterate the main point (in case there is any confusion whatsoever): you came here seeking solace for being cheap (and yes, tracking nickels and dimes at a family function is absolutely "being cheap") at a family member's wedding, and not surprisingly found none.

Not true, I sympathize with him and agree he shouldn't have to pay for it. In the wedding I was in, the bride wanted the groomsmen to pay to rent their tuxes, but the groom disagreed and paid for them. He took the commonsense standpoint of "why should they have to pay to be in our wedding?"
$130 is hardly "nickels and dimes"
 

Jzero

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Originally posted by: nakedfrog
$130 is hardly "nickels and dimes"

It is compared to the cost of a wedding. $130 wouldn't have paid for dinner for you and your date at my wedding. So yeah, when I'm giving you and a date 2 meals, open bar, a night of dancing, and a gift of your own that is valued similar to what you had to pay for the tux, $130 is nickels and dimes.

In the case of a shoestring wedding, even more so.

If you don't want to do it, just don't do it.
 

AStar617

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Originally posted by: Hammer
wow, what a great family member you are. :disgust:

you do realize that the groom and bride are paying for (if they're following tradition):

-2 good meals (reception and rehearsal dinner) **My mother is handling this for free**
-your room (if its out of town) **I live 15mins away from my parents' home**
-a gift to thank you for being in the wedding **I already know it's a wallet that cost $15 (not that it matters at all since it's only a token of appreciation)**

and you're out a whole $130. nice job!

The entire point of this thread is that they are NOT following tradition, except where it doesn't directly affect THEIR budget. That is all I have been saying this entire thread! For the nth time, people: this has nothing to do with me breaking even. I paid the costs, and am helping to make the ceremony happen. I just think it's a stupid custom.

If stupid customs were allowed to continue unquestioned in perpetuity, the world would be MUCH different than it is today. But I'll leave that P&N flamebait right where I found it ;)
 

AStar617

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Originally posted by: ActuaryTm
Originally posted by: AStar617
This is all a digression from the main point.
Agreed. To reiterate the main point (in case there is any confusion whatsoever): you came here seeking solace for being cheap (and yes, tracking nickels and dimes at a family function is absolutely "being cheap") at a family member's wedding, and not surprisingly found none.

ActuaryTm, I invite you to actually READ any of the posts I've made so far. How am I being cheap when I have already stated that I would simply make planned arrangements to cover EVERYTHING if I were the groom? How am I somehow not allowed to complain that somebody is tight with their own money yet loose as ever with everyone else's? If I invite a person with no money to eat at a restaurant, and they proceed to order one of everything on the menu, that is in poor taste. That is my point. This is not a traditional wedding where they are spending considerable sums of their own money on other aspects of the preparations.

So please re-read my responses so as not to look silly with your own (and yes, making assumptions about my motives without doing the due research does absolutely make you "look silly").

 

trmiv

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I feel your pain about expensive tux rentals. Sometime it seems the bride and groom don't even consider the cost when they pick a design. When my wife and I got married we tried to keep the cost of the rentals down for people. We applied the discounts we got to everyone, and really shopped around for the best price. Ended up getting it down to about $75 per person. A few months before that I had been in a friends wedding (who was also in mine), and the damn tux was $169!
 

nakedfrog

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Originally posted by: Jzero
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
$130 is hardly "nickels and dimes"

It is compared to the cost of a wedding. $130 wouldn't have paid for dinner for you and your date at my wedding. So yeah, when I'm giving you and a date 2 meals, open bar, a night of dancing, and a gift of your own that is valued similar to what you had to pay for the tux, $130 is nickels and dimes.

In the case of a shoestring wedding, even more so.

If you don't want to do it, just don't do it.

The wedding I attended had no rehearsal dinner, no open bar, and my gift totaled maybe $15. If you're already willing to spend so much on the wedding, why cheap out when it comes to renting tuxes for the groomsmen?
 
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i think a lot of times the groom/bride would love to cover their attentants fee's but 9 out of 10 times, its financially impossible.

All the people i know who stood up in wedddings knew they would have to pay certain things themselves, i.e. tux, gift, batchlor party/shower...

have not heard of the groom buying the mens tux rentals for them. Thats why the groom gives out gifts to the best man and groomsmen... to thank them for being there and for being a part of their special day.
 

Jzero

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Originally posted by: nakedfrog
The wedding I attended had no rehearsal dinner, no open bar, and my gift totaled maybe $15. If you're already willing to spend so much on the wedding, why cheap out when it comes to renting tuxes for the groomsmen?

Ask Emily Post; I didn't invent the "tradition." No one considers it "cheaping out" (except for a few random skinflints, apparently) because that's just the way it's done.
 

rh71

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Originally posted by: vi_edit
Originally posted by: rh71
usually the gift the groom gives to his groomsmen includes a tux for the wedding.

Uhhh, no. Any wedding I've been in or around the gift from the groom was a little knick knack from a "Things Remembered" stand. Never has it been a tux.


Originally posted by: vood0g
i think its a cultural difference.

i am vietnamese and all of the vietnamese people that i know that have been married always pay for the tuxes and dresses for the groomsmen and bridesmaid. i did that also when i got married to my wife. the tuxes were a small part of the wedding budges. the bridesmaid dresses cost us about $300/pop and thats with 6 bridesmaid.

now, the white friends/acquaintances that i've spoken to, its about a 15-25% say they pay for the clothes, and the remaining says that the wedding party pays for it on their own.

it's expected in the vietnamese culture that the bride and groom pays for these costs.
Thanks, I thought I was losing it. Apparently Chinese culture too.
 

AStar617

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Originally posted by: Jzero
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
$130 is hardly "nickels and dimes"

It is compared to the cost of a wedding. $130 wouldn't have paid for dinner for you and your date at my wedding. So yeah, when I'm giving you and a date 2 meals, open bar, a night of dancing, and a gift of your own that is valued similar to what you had to pay for the tux...

The meal is my mother's food which I could get everyday if I so chose assuming I go there instead of home after work.

There is no open bar. Well correction, there is, but the vast majority of the liquor is stuff that I purchased in the first place, as this is at my parents' home and my old home.

There will be no dancing to speak of. Music in the background during the reception perhaps, but certainly no room for a proper dance floor in this in-home wedding.

There's no way the gift is going to be anything over $15 given their budget.

(I hate itemizing these things as it puts too much emphasis on the "what am I getting for $130" aspect, which is not my gripe... but there seems to be widespread confusion over what this wedding is shaping up to be. Your wedding/reception sounds to be traditional. This one is not.)

...$130 is nickels and dimes. In the case of a shoestring wedding, even more so.

Shouldn't this be the other way around, even less so?

If you don't want to do it, just don't do it.

It's family, bearing all of the unspoken obligations that come along with it. And my mother is the wedding planner, so I see this as more of a nod to her than the couple. My mother agrees with me here, by the way, having had a non-traditional wedding herself.

 

nakedfrog

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Originally posted by: Jzero
Ask Emily Post; I didn't invent the "tradition." No one considers it "cheaping out" (except for a few random skinflints, apparently) because that's just the way it's done.

Well, apparently I don't know much about wedding traditions, because the wedding I went to a year before that was the first time I had ever even heard of the "money dance."
 

AStar617

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Originally posted by: trmiv
I feel your pain about expensive tux rentals. Sometime it seems the bride and groom don't even consider the cost when they pick a design. When my wife and I got married we tried to keep the cost of the rentals down for people. We applied the discounts we got to everyone, and really shopped around for the best price. Ended up getting it down to about $75 per person. A few months before that I had been in a friends wedding (who was also in mine), and the damn tux was $169!

Thank you. This is the only point I've been trying to make since last nite :)

 

eakers

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the best part is you still have to buy an engagement and wedding present on top of that!
 

Jzero

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Originally posted by: AStar617
...$130 is nickels and dimes. In the case of a shoestring wedding, even more so.

Shouldn't this be the other way around, even less so?
Semantics. What I'm getting at is that if they can't afford a huge wedding, regardless of the reason, it's even more important for them to save anywhere they can. If your wedding budget is only $1000, buying everyone's attire will quickly exceed that budget. .
 

Jzero

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Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: Jzero
Ask Emily Post; I didn't invent the "tradition." No one considers it "cheaping out" (except for a few random skinflints, apparently) because that's just the way it's done.

Well, apparently I don't know much about wedding traditions, because the wedding I went to a year before that was the first time I had ever even heard of the "money dance."

I think that's a regional thing...I had never heard of theat until recently, either, but that's just way too tacky. It's bad enough that inviting someone carries the implication that they owe you a gift.
 

AStar617

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Originally posted by: Jzero
Originally posted by: AStar617
...$130 is nickels and dimes. In the case of a shoestring wedding, even more so.

Shouldn't this be the other way around, even less so?
Semantics. What I'm getting at is that if they can't afford a huge wedding, regardless of the reason, it's even more important for them to save anywhere they can. If your wedding budget is only $1000, buying everyone's attire will quickly exceed that budget. .

I agree with you 100%. However, as I've said several times in above replies, what's so wrong with appearing in a good black suit over a tux in this non-traditional wedding? This doubly answers the question of how to conserve budget funds as well as how not to make others have to spend an unnecessary amount. The couple's own sensitivity to spending is what has me shocked at their apparent disregard for everyone else's sensitivity to spending. Case in point is the flower girl example I gave earlier.
 

AStar617

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Originally posted by: Mwilding
Be grateful you aren't a bridesmaid...

I count my blessings everyday. Up to 3 times as much spent, to own one of these. :laugh:

Thankfully there's no way my mother/her wedding planner would let something like that happen in this case.