Wow, I would hate to see the manager who would ask a customer to leqave simply based off the fact that they didnt tip. Dont get me wrong, I think tipping is damn near a requirement except in the case of extremely poor service, but money is money and it makes horrible business sense to turn away a paying customer in almost any situation aside from a verbally/physically abusive person.
Wow, I would hate to see the manager who would ask a customer to leqave simply based off the fact that they didnt tip. Dont get me wrong, I think tipping is damn near a requirement except in the case of extremely poor service, but money is money and it makes horrible business sense to turn away a paying customer in almost any situation aside from a verbally/physically abusive person.
I just read your profile, you're from Iowa. In my experience, quite a few people in the middle of the USA have no clue on proper tipping. They might even throw down a few quarters after a big meal. I'd like to think that the tips are more in line with the tipping guidelines as one gets towards to the coasts. But, I could be wrong.
I remember being dirt poor in college and having to hussle for every dollar I earned. Since the waiters where I eat are usually students, I try to tip well when I get good service (~20-25%).
Being a waiter can be rough.
Dave
Being a waiter can be rough.
Dave
the 'system' as you call it is designed to prey on the unsuspecting and the naive, and the foolish
but if you like it, hey be my guest
wow... my heart bleeds for them waiters...jeez! how about construction work? you think that's fun? or a quarry? or a pipeline job in the middle of the sahara???
i'm amazed no end by people claiming that if the restaurants had to pay market wages for the waiting staff, then "food prices would have to go up"!
no - food prices wouldn't have to go up... they would just have to display on the menu what you will end up paying in cash! why is that so bad?? it's not like you have the choice of not buying the service at most places. or even of being able to choose which waiter serves you... the whole system relies on tricking ppl into believing they are going to spend a lot less when they enter, and then trying to squeeze them into paying extra for the service, which is lacking in more than a third of the cases....
as a customer i find that deceptive and underhanded... not to mention that the whole tipping culture is degrading and 'un-American' in that it leaves the waiter's livelihood dependent on the whims of the customer...
oh okay... I get it... they get 10% to really fvck up, do they?
i suppose, 20% is for screwing up only a little then?
i suppose, 20% is for screwing up only a little then?
EMPshockwave82
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I really love these threads. It's good to have one every few months. All they do is serve to strengthen my resolve against the tipping practice. They remind me that I think it's bullshit and that I refuse to follow some stupid social pressure to subsidize someone's employment.
I wasn't aware that an employer is required to bring an employee up to minimum wage if their tips were insufficient to do so. I will have to check into that because if it's true then I will flat out refuse to tip under any circumstances because serving is a minimum wage job and doesn't deserve a penny more then minimum wage.
I wasn't aware that an employer is required to bring an employee up to minimum wage if their tips were insufficient to do so. I will have to check into that because if it's true then I will flat out refuse to tip under any circumstances because serving is a minimum wage job and doesn't deserve a penny more then minimum wage.
this is pretty entertaining. there are obnoxious ones from both sides and it's fun to see them go at each other
Aharami
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english must be your second language.
the min I'd tip is 10%. No matter how bad the service was (well unless one time when we never got our food...had to contact the manager...and food was comped for us. then i didnt tip cuz there was no service). but say if the waiter brings me my food 20 mins late...i'd tip 10%. hey atleast i still got my food and it might not have been the waiter's fault to begin with...might have been the chef's fault.
usually i tip 15%.
couple times when i was hammered off my ass (late nights at Denny's) i tipped 20%
Hmm so it is true. Employers are required to pay the difference if the employees wages plus their tips do not meet the Federal minimum wage. So servers are guaranteed minimum wage. I will never tip a server again.
Dude you need to work in a better class of restaurant, or one with a better class of clientele. You may provide great service, and your customers might be very happy with your service, but if dey is broke, dey is not gonna tip you well.
I tip pretty much $10 when I eat out. Bills are usually around $30 before tip so I tip "well" One place I tip more is a place called Bucca Di Beppo because the wait staff are so professional and the service is so awsome they deserve it. The last time I was there I tipped $20 on a $35 bill. The higher class of place I think lends to waiters making more money, the only problem is that higher class restaurants probably have people at the tables for alot longer period of time.
http://www.bucadibeppo.com/ If you never eaten at one try it, but bring lots of friends. Thier one chicken dish is around 16lbs. They have a "pope table" that sits like 18 also.
http://www.bucadibeppo.com/ If you never eaten at one try it, but bring lots of friends. Thier one chicken dish is around 16lbs. They have a "pope table" that sits like 18 also.
Do we really need to see a thread every single day about tipping? If you need to find someone that shares your woes with you just check yesterdays thread about angry pizza delivery men. These threads are all the same..
Yeah, if you are working in a restaurant with cheap prices and/or cheap patrons, you should consider quitting. There's no reason to be making minimum wage serving if you are any good at it. There are plenty of higher class restaurants where folks tip.
If a server isn't making enough through tips then they suck at serving, or need to find a new place to serve.
rh71
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- Aug 28, 2001
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my opinion is that waiters/waitresses take that job knowing their wage is an uncertain gamble for better or worse and while they have every right to rant, they shouldn't. When they make out well on another given night, nobody cries about it.
Either take a job doing something more stable or keep gambling. It goes with the territory. I always do my share and tip 15%, but I for one, don't want to hear it... nobody forced you into that job.
Either take a job doing something more stable or keep gambling. It goes with the territory. I always do my share and tip 15%, but I for one, don't want to hear it... nobody forced you into that job.
MartyMcFly3
Lifer
"Don't give me that. She don't make enough money, she can quit. I don't tip because society says I have to. Alright, I mean I'll tip if somebody really deserves a tip, if they really put forth the effort, I'll give 'em something extra, but I mean this tipping automatically is for the birds. She was OK - but she wasn't anything special. Hey Look, I ordered coffee, right? Now we've been here a long fvckin time, and she's only filled my cup three times. When I order coffee, I want it filled six times... Jesus Christ - I mean these ladies aren't starving to death. They make minimum wage. You know, I used to work minimum wage. And when I did, I wasn't lucky enough to have a job society deemed tip-worthy. Hey, I'm very sorry that the government taxes their tips. That's fvcked up. That ain't my fault. It would appear that waitresses are just one of the many groups the government fvcks in the ass on a regular basis. You show me a paper says the government shouldn't do that, I'll sign it. Put it to a vote, I'll vote for it. But what I won't do is play ball. And this non-college bullshit you're giving me, I got two words for that: "Learn to fuckin type." Cause if you're expecting me to help out with the rent, you're in for a big fvckin' surprise." - Reservoir Dogs
You work at Outback, right? You should expect it. Look at all the cheap bastards on this forum...look where they always eat. Chain restaurants. There are several posts a day about somebody eating at one of these crap-factories. There are also countless posts about "I don't believe in tipping. blahblahblah."
Cook your own dinner at home and don't bother some college kid busting his ass trying to work through school.
A decent human being will be sat at his/her table instead of you.
Did you flick off every customer you served? $7 after tip shares is all you made at a steak joint? Seriously....that can't all be the customer.
Do not hang in "there". Your place sucks. You realize you coulda flipped burgers for more money, right?
I got on someone's case on the last tipping thread because I thought all those waiters talking about that they "deserve" something is ridiculous(though I tip 15-20% regardless of the QoS), but some of you are going to turn me into a bleeding heart waiter supporter because I feel sorry that they have to serve your cheap asses.
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