Beating your children: Whats so wrong?

JumBie

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Whats going on in today's society? We have labeled spanking or hitting in anyway, shape, or form towards our children as a sinister act that only someone who is crazy would ever commit. It makes me look back, mind you I am not that old but as someone who is in my early twenties and also someone who was "abused" as a child I think I can vouch that there is absolutely nothing wrong with it.

I grew up on a street that was very diverse, my neighbors were of many backgrounds: Indians, Italians, Russians, Jamaicans etc... Our sub-division was relatively new hence there were a great abundance of children playing outside at all times of the day. Most of us children got along quite well, and our parents the same. I remember almost every children on that street getting beat by their parents. Some got slapped, spanked, hair pulled, I mean the list goes on. It wasn't anything new to us, we would laugh at each other when we saw it happen but we always knew that the same could happen to us at any point in time.

All the parents were relatively blind to the fact that there was anything wrong with what they were doing. Most of them being immigrants who probably experienced the same "abuse" as a child. I look at these children who have now grown up into adults, most of these kids that i grew up with have done relatively well in life. Almost all of them are in university and pursuing great degrees, none of them exhibit any form or psychological distress that could ever be attributed to the "abuse" that we received as children.

Why is it that today if you are seen hitting your child you are a "bad" parent, the same goes for yelling at your child. What are we suppose to do? Talk to our children as if they are mentally inclined (no offense) with a soft spoken voice, no matter what they did. I find this ridiculous, society has become so soft in every aspect. I am not saying that I am going to "abuse" my child when and if I do have some, but I am also not saying that hitting your child is wrong. There obviously is a line that defines what hitting your child is vs bruising and battering them and putting them in medical distress. Once again, I just don't understand why this practice is frowned upon, anyone care to chime in? Feel free.
 

MiniDoom

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violence isn't something civilized adults use to solve problems. I think that's the example you're setting by not hitting your kids, however I do endorse the beating of some children. :D
 

QueBert

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I was beat as a child, I deserved it, and without it I would 100% be dead or in jail. "times out" didn't work for me, as didn't long ass lectures. I'm glad I was beat as a child.
 

JumBie

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violence isn't something civilized adults use to solve problems. I think that's the example you're setting by not hitting your kids, however I do endorse the beating of some children. :D

I was beat, most of the people I grew up with were beat as children. They aren't aggressive in anyway. This whole nurture vs nature debate is really a hit or miss. The beatings that I received definitely pushed me in the right direction as a child. I would fear getting a bad mark in school because I knew id get beat. There was no such thing as a time out, or being grounded. My father would take off his belt, or find anything that was close by and beat me. All that aside he was loving and provided for me, he was just very strict when it came to school and behavior. Now as I got older the beatings diminished, but the ideologies stuck with me. I strived to get high marks not only for my self but to please my family. I tried to stay out of trouble because I knew it was wrong, and i knew i would upset my family. The beatings you could say were positive reinforcement, because they most definitely worked.
 

Vdubchaos

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I was beat as a child, I deserved it, and without it I would 100% be dead or in jail. "times out" didn't work for me, as didn't long ass lectures. I'm glad I was beat as a child.

X2

I thank my mother and father for beating my ass when I needed it.

My wife on the other hand was beaten for NO reason by her drug addict father......

Fucked up parents killed it for those that really want to discipline their kids.

HOWEVER, keep in mind that spanking isn't really ILLEGAL. You can still hit your kids BUT don't leave any visible marks as that will usually get you into all kinds of crap you don't want to deal with (in general not that much trouble at all)
 

BoomerD

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Hang the little bastards up like a pinata...beat them like a rug.

Worked for my parents...


<twitch>
 

maddogchen

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its funny the focus on parents beating children. But older brothers beating younger ones no one talks about. I've seen brothers beat up younger ones just for coming home from a bad day.
 

JM Aggie08

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Dad fabricated a flat, wooden paddle with grip tape.

I turned out as a fantastic adult.
 

SMOGZINN

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I was beat, most of the people I grew up with were beat as children. They aren't aggressive in anyway.

Your OP would seem to disagree with you here. You were beat as a child, now you think others should beat their children. Sounds like a cycle of violence to me.


All that aside he was loving and provided for me, he was just very strict when it came to school and behavior. Now as I got older the beatings diminished, but the ideologies stuck with me.
Case in point. You learned the ideology that if someone you have power over does something you don't like the appropriate response is to hit them.
 

Raizinman

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violence isn't something civilized adults use to solve problems. I think that's the example you're setting by not hitting your kids, however I do endorse the beating of some children. :D

What? Civilized adults don't have capital punishment? 33 states still have capital punishment!!

Hitting your child, whether a small smack or slight backhand will get you arrested. Heck, if you are even verbally abusive to your child, you can also wind up in jail. Kids don't know the power they hold. Lets say you 12 year old wants to stay up late on a school night and doesn't want to do their homework. What are you going to do? Absolutely nothing! They will call child services and report you for any number of things such as: Porn on your computer, drinking too much, smoking drugs, or just being verbally abusive. I knew one kid who (after soccer practice) claimed a bruise on his arm was given to him by his dad. Dad went to jail.

Kids hold all the power these days and once they know what they can get, it will be a very sad day.
 

Phoenix86

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I was beat as a child, I deserved it, and without it I would 100% be dead or in jail. "times out" didn't work for me, as didn't long ass lectures. I'm glad I was beat as a child.
I won't go so far to say I would have ended up dead or in jail without them but I was spanked as a child too and I'm glad for it, for the most part.
 

pontifex

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difference between beating and spanking.

spanking is fine. definitely should be used. I watched that movie Parental Guidance the other day and wanted to punch every fucking parent/teacher/child that had some kind of hippie feel good politically correct bullshit method of dealing with everything.
 

pontifex

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What? Civilized adults don't have capital punishment? 33 states still have capital punishment!!

Hitting your child, whether a small smack or slight backhand will get you arrested. Heck, if you are even verbally abusive to your child, you can also wind up in jail. Kids don't know the power they hold. Lets say you 12 year old wants to stay up late on a school night and doesn't want to do their homework. What are you going to do? Absolutely nothing! They will call child services and report you for any number of things such as: Porn on your computer, drinking too much, smoking drugs, or just being verbally abusive. I knew one kid who (after soccer practice) claimed a bruise on his arm was given to him by his dad. Dad went to jail.

Kids hold all the power these days and once they know what they can get, it will be a very sad day.

I didn't know wars no longer exist either.
 

Vic Vega

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My parents spanked me but I can't say I was ever beat. I turned out OK. :)

My kids on occasion get spanked when their behavior requires it, but it's not often. In fact, simply the threat of it suffices in most instances.

I've found that restricting privileges and assigning work is a better deterrent for the most part.

Let me say this - active parenting of any type beats what most parents do these days. Spank your kids, don't spank your kids, I don't care but do something. Most of the little hellions you see cruising around lacked parenting of any kind, not simply spanking.
 

BoberFett

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My daughter has never needed a spanking. She's a sensitive thing would get upset if I spoke harshly to her. No physical punishment needed. Other kids are little bastards. Depends totally on the kid. But like everything else in this country, it's one-size-fits-all. If a time out works for one kid, then we'll legislate it for every kid! Surely that will work!
 

Remobz

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At catholic grammar and high school I was beaten with a paddle as part of corporal punishment by priests and nuns.

At home, I was lashed with a belt and sometimes got the buckle by accident.