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Originally posted by: fallout man
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Howdy pardner. Bush's role is not to "fix" this country. That's Congress's responsibility. Kudos for the nice example of setting another false expectation so it can be blamed on Bush. Classic ***** in action.
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What is the president's role? Is it to judo-chop San Francisco liberals?
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It is Bush's job to make messes so Congress has something to do.

Think of Bush as a baby, and Congress as it's parents. It is Bush's job to shit in his diaper, then cry about it, so Congresses will know to wipe his ass and replace the dirty diaper.
 
I think the 'Derangement' comes from the NeoCons , their bumper sticker mentality and propensity to label with meaningless jingolism, their obfuscation and lies of omission, and the never-ending personal attacks and revisionist history.

So, effectively, the jokes on them and they don't even realize it.
 
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
"the acute onset of paranoia in otherwise normal people in reaction to the policies, the presidency?nay?the very existence of George W. Bush".

It looks to me that bds, while initially a "joke" has become more prevelent among many here in America(and even some abroad). Even during the height of negativity towards Clinton, there wasn't this level of hatred. While many of use disliked his policies and actions - it wasn't a reactionary hatred for the most part(minus the fringes who always have their panties in a bunch).
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Clinton wasn't a disaster like Bush is.

 
Originally posted by: Ozoned
Originally posted by: fallout man

Dorothy, I don't we're in Texas anymore.
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captured for use as anti grammer [sic] nazi ammo.
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Verily, I do declare that in my haste, I hath omitted a pertinent component of the prose in question. Goodnight, sweet Prince.
 
Originally posted by: fallout man
Originally posted by: Ozoned
Originally posted by: fallout man

Dorothy, I don't we're in Texas anymore.
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captured for use as anti grammer nazi ammo.
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Verily, I do declare that in my haste, I hath omitted a pertinent component of the prose in question. Goodnight, sweet Prince.
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:lips:

 
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: yllus
I disagree. This level of negativity was most certainly found in those who were against Clinton during his presidency.
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I don't see that. Yes, there were those that "hated" him and everything he did(the fringe), however that level is nothing compared to what we have been seeing today.
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I see hatred towards clinton all the time while he was still in office. but i live in central virginia... it's different in the city of richmond thou, since VCU have a high liberal population, it pretty much evens out. bush hater is pretty rare... only have one outspoken co-worker.
 
I think the most fascinating part of "B.D.S" is how it has become the catchall excuse for EVERY objection to Bush's policies or actions. I while admit that there are some people who have a pretty intense hatred of the President (although I disagree that he's the first President that's happened to), but that's not what we're talking about here. The "B.D.S" charge isn't reserved for the truly demented, it's leveled at every single person who dislikes Bush or his views. If you don't like his stance on social security, it's B.D.S. If you think he's wrong on Iraq, it's B.D.S. If you object to waterboarding, illegal wiretapping or secret prisons, it MUST be because of, oh let it come...B.D.S.

You'll forgive me if I find your sad attempts to treat this as an actual problem to be whiny and pathetic. This is just plain old politics, and not even particularly impressive politics at that. The President is wildly unpopular, it's not exactly "derangement" to hold an opinion shared by a huge majority of the country.
 
Funny how the president who claimed to be a "uniter, not a divider" has driven half the country to become afflicted with the "dreaded" Bush Derangement Syndrome.
 
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
it wasn't a reactionary hatred for the most part(minus the fringes who always have their panties in a bunch).
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If you look up the word 'reactionary', you'll realize that your statement is actually pretty accurate. It doesn't mean what you seem to think it means.
 
Let's see. Clinton lied about a BJ.
Bush added trillions to this nation's debt and started a very expensive open ended war either because he's a liar or because he's an idiot.
By that measure:

(Clinton hate)/(Clinton fvckups) >> (Bush hate)/(Bush fvckups).
 
Originally posted by: Rainsford
I think the most fascinating part of "B.D.S" is how it has become the catchall excuse for EVERY objection to Bush's policies or actions. I while admit that there are some people who have a pretty intense hatred of the President (although I disagree that he's the first President that's happened to), but that's not what we're talking about here. The "B.D.S" charge isn't reserved for the truly demented, it's leveled at every single person who dislikes Bush or his views. If you don't like his stance on social security, it's B.D.S. If you think he's wrong on Iraq, it's B.D.S. If you object to waterboarding, illegal wiretapping or secret prisons, it MUST be because of, oh let it come...B.D.S.

You'll forgive me if I find your sad attempts to treat this as an actual problem to be whiny and pathetic. This is just plain old politics, and not even particularly impressive politics at that. The President is wildly unpopular, it's not exactly "derangement" to hold an opinion shared by a huge majority of the country.
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Couldn't have said it better.
 
C- I don`t agree with the war in Iraq.
R- So you hate the troops.

C- I do not agree with illegal immigration.
R- So you hate brown people.

C- I am not happy with the George Bush administration`s performance.
R- So you have *****.

🙂
 
"*****" is a diversion. It is used to negate criticism of Mr Bush's policies by saying that it is based on irrational hate.

 
bds is a way to keep the brainwashed sheep who are the successful targets of the propaganda of the 'ruling class' on board, to get them not to listen to the facts. Oh, that's just bds, and they don't listen.

Works like a charm. Doesn't have anything to do with the people who are accused of having bds - it's just a way to keep the sheep content. And the big lie technique works great with it.

In the meantime, these suckers are screwed, and they passionately fight for the rights of those screwing them - it's sick. And they're even worse for happily not caring at all about the well-being of non-Americans affected by their derangement. There really is a shocking number of people who'd not oppose the use of nukes in Iraq, Afghanistan, or Pakistan if Bush said it was good. They give almost no care to non-Americans.
 
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
"the acute onset of paranoia in otherwise normal people in reaction to the policies, the presidency?nay?the very existence of George W. Bush".

It looks to me that bds, while initially a "joke" has become more prevelent among many here in America(and even some abroad). Even during the height of negativity towards Clinton, there wasn't this level of hatred. While many of use disliked his policies and actions - it wasn't a reactionary hatred for the most part(minus the fringes who always have their panties in a bunch).
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Clinton wasn't a disaster like Bush is.
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Depends on what it is you are talking about. There are many things that Clinton did that were disasters IMO.


BDS <- testing the filter Hey wow, they unfiltered it. I wonder why it was filtered in the first place?
 
Originally posted by: Rainsford
I think the most fascinating part of "B.D.S" is how it has become the catchall excuse for EVERY objection to Bush's policies or actions. I while admit that there are some people who have a pretty intense hatred of the President (although I disagree that he's the first President that's happened to), but that's not what we're talking about here. The "B.D.S" charge isn't reserved for the truly demented, it's leveled at every single person who dislikes Bush or his views. If you don't like his stance on social security, it's B.D.S. If you think he's wrong on Iraq, it's B.D.S. If you object to waterboarding, illegal wiretapping or secret prisons, it MUST be because of, oh let it come...B.D.S.

You'll forgive me if I find your sad attempts to treat this as an actual problem to be whiny and pathetic. This is just plain old politics, and not even particularly impressive politics at that. The President is wildly unpopular, it's not exactly "derangement" to hold an opinion shared by a huge majority of the country.
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I was going to come in and say that B.D.S. has become an excuse for every complaint against Bush and that it is par for the course when it comes to throwing around cheap labels that don't fit but you've done a fine job saying that already :thumbsup:
 
Originally posted by: jman19
Originally posted by: Rainsford
I think the most fascinating part of "B.D.S" is how it has become the catchall excuse for EVERY objection to Bush's policies or actions. I while admit that there are some people who have a pretty intense hatred of the President (although I disagree that he's the first President that's happened to), but that's not what we're talking about here. The "B.D.S" charge isn't reserved for the truly demented, it's leveled at every single person who dislikes Bush or his views. If you don't like his stance on social security, it's B.D.S. If you think he's wrong on Iraq, it's B.D.S. If you object to waterboarding, illegal wiretapping or secret prisons, it MUST be because of, oh let it come...B.D.S.

You'll forgive me if I find your sad attempts to treat this as an actual problem to be whiny and pathetic. This is just plain old politics, and not even particularly impressive politics at that. The President is wildly unpopular, it's not exactly "derangement" to hold an opinion shared by a huge majority of the country.
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I was going to come in and say that B.D.S. has become an excuse for every complaint against Bush and that it is par for the course when it comes to throwing around cheap labels that don't fit but you've done a fine job saying that already :thumbsup:
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Except you both don't seem to understand what BDS is. It's not about people disagreeing with Bush - it's about the irrational hatred of him and ANYTHING he does. As some here have repeatedly shown - they will oppose Bush no matter what he does - even if it is the correct thing(or conforms to their idealogical view of that specific topic). BDS is NOT about legitimate(read: rational) individual disagreements on policy or actions - however it does manifest itself in wildeyed rants that go all over the board.
 
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: jman19
Originally posted by: Rainsford
I think the most fascinating part of "B.D.S" is how it has become the catchall excuse for EVERY objection to Bush's policies or actions. I while admit that there are some people who have a pretty intense hatred of the President (although I disagree that he's the first President that's happened to), but that's not what we're talking about here. The "B.D.S" charge isn't reserved for the truly demented, it's leveled at every single person who dislikes Bush or his views. If you don't like his stance on social security, it's B.D.S. If you think he's wrong on Iraq, it's B.D.S. If you object to waterboarding, illegal wiretapping or secret prisons, it MUST be because of, oh let it come...B.D.S.

You'll forgive me if I find your sad attempts to treat this as an actual problem to be whiny and pathetic. This is just plain old politics, and not even particularly impressive politics at that. The President is wildly unpopular, it's not exactly "derangement" to hold an opinion shared by a huge majority of the country.
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I was going to come in and say that B.D.S. has become an excuse for every complaint against Bush and that it is par for the course when it comes to throwing around cheap labels that don't fit but you've done a fine job saying that already :thumbsup:
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Except you both don't seem to understand what BDS is. It's not about people disagreeing with Bush - it's about the irrational hatred of him and ANYTHING he does. As some here have repeatedly shown - they will oppose Bush no matter what he does - even if it is the correct thing(or conforms to their idealogical view of that specific topic). BDS is NOT about legitimate(read: rational) individual disagreements on policy or actions - however it does manifest itself in wildeyed rants that go all over the board.
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No, you are the one who doesn't understand - I'm not arguing against it's meaning, I am saying it has become a cheap label that is thrown around even when unjustified.
 
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Except you both don't seem to understand what BDS is. It's not about people disagreeing with Bush - it's about the irrational hatred of him and ANYTHING he does. As some here have repeatedly shown - they will oppose Bush no matter what he does - even if it is the correct thing(or conforms to their idealogical view of that specific topic). BDS is NOT about legitimate(read: rational) individual disagreements on policy or actions - however it does manifest itself in wildeyed rants that go all over the board.
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Of course, this is a well known phenomenon, and has nothing to do with Bush, and doesn't really need a 'name'.
 
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: jman19
Originally posted by: Rainsford
I think the most fascinating part of "B.D.S" is how it has become the catchall excuse for EVERY objection to Bush's policies or actions. I while admit that there are some people who have a pretty intense hatred of the President (although I disagree that he's the first President that's happened to), but that's not what we're talking about here. The "B.D.S" charge isn't reserved for the truly demented, it's leveled at every single person who dislikes Bush or his views. If you don't like his stance on social security, it's B.D.S. If you think he's wrong on Iraq, it's B.D.S. If you object to waterboarding, illegal wiretapping or secret prisons, it MUST be because of, oh let it come...B.D.S.

You'll forgive me if I find your sad attempts to treat this as an actual problem to be whiny and pathetic. This is just plain old politics, and not even particularly impressive politics at that. The President is wildly unpopular, it's not exactly "derangement" to hold an opinion shared by a huge majority of the country.
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I was going to come in and say that B.D.S. has become an excuse for every complaint against Bush and that it is par for the course when it comes to throwing around cheap labels that don't fit but you've done a fine job saying that already :thumbsup:
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Except you both don't seem to understand what BDS is. It's not about people disagreeing with Bush - it's about the irrational hatred of him and ANYTHING he does. As some here have repeatedly shown - they will oppose Bush no matter what he does - even if it is the correct thing(or conforms to their idealogical view of that specific topic). BDS is NOT about legitimate(read: rational) individual disagreements on policy or actions - however it does manifest itself in wildeyed rants that go all over the board.
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Maybe if he didn't do so much stupid crap. I just tried to think of something I agreed with him on and besides John Roberts, I got nothing. He sent Bolton to the UN, a guy who said the institution was irrelevant. Way to respect an appointment. He advocates wiretapping without warrants. He stood by Gonzales even though the jerk was lying through his teeth. He vetoed childrens healthcare. He says we don't torture with a straight face. He commutes Libby. He vetoed stem cell research. He tried appointing his nanny to the supreme court. He tried to sell our ports to dubai. He planned, executed and covered up the US involvement in 9/11. Kidding. 🙂

It's not that I look at whatever bush decides and then formulate my opinion to go the other way with it (I reserve that for the pope), it's that I haven't liked almost any decision he's ever made. Again, I point out Robert's as an exception. But if I hate the guy, it's because he makes one horrible decision after another, refuses to fire anyone for anything, and commutes the one guy who actually did get held accountable.

So basically I think my disliking the guy and his admin is perfectly rational. When he does something I don't find stupid or morally repugnant, I'll say so. Still waiting.
 
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