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hdeck

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Originally posted by: Wreckem
Originally posted by: Safeway
Texas ... 4th, 4th, 12th?!?!?!?! Texas > All.

Texas got extremely lucky to not lose the past two weekends.

I have this sick feeling in my gut, Auburn, Florida, Louisville, WVU, and Michgan all lose giving Texas a title berth. Texas is just that fvcking lucky enough for it to happen.

extremely lucky? overcoming terrible special teams to win AT nebraska and coming back from 21 down to win AT tech (who preps for texas harder than any other team on their schedule next to a bowl game) and that is luck? please. i don't think texas is getting to the bcs title game by any means, but to say they won out of luck is just ludicrous.

on a related note, i'm happy that louisville was able to jump us on their bye week.
 

Fingolfin269

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I'm still upset about Tennessee being ranked behind Cal but I am wondering if some of you BCS/mathematical gurus can help me out.

Will we finally jump ahead of Cal if, and I stress 'IF', we beat LSU on Saturday?
 

sciencewhiz

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Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
I'm still upset about Tennessee being ranked behind Cal but I am wondering if some of you BCS/mathematical gurus can help me out.

Will we finally jump ahead of Cal if, and I stress 'IF', we beat LSU on Saturday?

Tennessee would jump 3 computer spots in Colley by beating LSU. If we assume a similar jump in all computers, Tennessee would not only jump Cal, but Notre Dame and USC as well.
 

wyvrn

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Feb 15, 2000
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Originally posted by: jbourne77
Originally posted by: Wreckem
A scenario I would hate to see, is Auburn, Florida, WVU, and Lousiville all losing, putting Texas at #2.

Wouldn't bother me a bit. I honestly believe Texas is the 2nd best team in the nation. Michigan is good, but I don't see them at #2.

What I would LOVE to see - which would never happen - is for Notre Dame to climb to #2 so Ohio State could BEAT THE LIVING FSCKING SNOT out of them in the title game. I hate those cockjockeys so much it makes my head spin.

Good. I'll make sure and bug you about ND for the rest of the season :D

Texas isn't better than Michigan. Sorry. I am a fan of all Texas teams, but they aren't in the same class and haven't been playing like it either lately.
 

wyvrn

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Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
I'm still upset about Tennessee being ranked behind Cal but I am wondering if some of you BCS/mathematical gurus can help me out.

Will we finally jump ahead of Cal if, and I stress 'IF', we beat LSU on Saturday?

Tennessee looks like they are getting shafted to me. They are a good team.
 

Wreckem

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Originally posted by: hdeck
Originally posted by: Wreckem
Originally posted by: Safeway
Texas ... 4th, 4th, 12th?!?!?!?! Texas > All.

Texas got extremely lucky to not lose the past two weekends.

I have this sick feeling in my gut, Auburn, Florida, Louisville, WVU, and Michgan all lose giving Texas a title berth. Texas is just that fvcking lucky enough for it to happen.

extremely lucky? overcoming terrible special teams to win AT nebraska and coming back from 21 down to win AT tech (who preps for texas harder than any other team on their schedule next to a bowl game) and that is luck? please. i don't think texas is getting to the bcs title game by any means, but to say they won out of luck is just ludicrous.

on a related note, i'm happy that louisville was able to jump us on their bye week.

Actually, Tech prepares more for A&M, then anyone else so you are wrong there.

They jumped Texas because Texas, because Texas showed they are far from the best 1 loss team. They needed a whole lot of help from the refs and a whole lot of ineptness from Tech late in the game. Tech blew it but its beyond stupid the amount of bad calls/no calls the refs made.

 

hdeck

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Sep 26, 2002
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Originally posted by: Wreckem
Originally posted by: hdeck
Originally posted by: Wreckem
Originally posted by: Safeway
Texas ... 4th, 4th, 12th?!?!?!?! Texas > All.

Texas got extremely lucky to not lose the past two weekends.

I have this sick feeling in my gut, Auburn, Florida, Louisville, WVU, and Michgan all lose giving Texas a title berth. Texas is just that fvcking lucky enough for it to happen.

extremely lucky? overcoming terrible special teams to win AT nebraska and coming back from 21 down to win AT tech (who preps for texas harder than any other team on their schedule next to a bowl game) and that is luck? please. i don't think texas is getting to the bcs title game by any means, but to say they won out of luck is just ludicrous.

on a related note, i'm happy that louisville was able to jump us on their bye week.

Actually, Tech prepares more for A&M, then anyone else so you are wrong there.

They jumped Texas because Texas, because Texas showed they are far from the best 1 loss team. They needed a whole lot of help from the refs and a whole lot of ineptness from Tech late in the game. Tech blew it but its beyond stupid the amount of bad calls/no calls the refs made.

help from the refs? lol, sound like a bitter fan to me. playing texas is a MUCH bigger game for them than a&m now. a&m is hardly competition for anyone in the big 12 these days.
 

SP33Demon

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Originally posted by: wyvrn
Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
I'm still upset about Tennessee being ranked behind Cal but I am wondering if some of you BCS/mathematical gurus can help me out.

Will we finally jump ahead of Cal if, and I stress 'IF', we beat LSU on Saturday?

Tennessee looks like they are getting shafted to me. They are a good team.
They didn't really have a great outing vs unranked South Carolina, it was close until late. I wasn't impressed. At all. Same with Texas and Auburn.
 

Fingolfin269

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: wyvrn
Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
I'm still upset about Tennessee being ranked behind Cal but I am wondering if some of you BCS/mathematical gurus can help me out.

Will we finally jump ahead of Cal if, and I stress 'IF', we beat LSU on Saturday?

Tennessee looks like they are getting shafted to me. They are a good team.
They didn't really have a great outing vs unranked South Carolina, it was close until late. I wasn't impressed. At all. Same with Texas and Auburn.

You have to understand the ins and outs of the SEC to know why that game was close. Any time we play a Spurrier team it always ends up being a game that comes down to the end. I have no idea why but that's just how it is.
 

erub

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Originally posted by: hdeck
Originally posted by: Wreckem
Originally posted by: hdeck
Originally posted by: Wreckem
Originally posted by: Safeway
Texas ... 4th, 4th, 12th?!?!?!?! Texas > All.

Texas got extremely lucky to not lose the past two weekends.

I have this sick feeling in my gut, Auburn, Florida, Louisville, WVU, and Michgan all lose giving Texas a title berth. Texas is just that fvcking lucky enough for it to happen.

extremely lucky? overcoming terrible special teams to win AT nebraska and coming back from 21 down to win AT tech (who preps for texas harder than any other team on their schedule next to a bowl game) and that is luck? please. i don't think texas is getting to the bcs title game by any means, but to say they won out of luck is just ludicrous.

on a related note, i'm happy that louisville was able to jump us on their bye week.

Actually, Tech prepares more for A&M, then anyone else so you are wrong there.

They jumped Texas because Texas, because Texas showed they are far from the best 1 loss team. They needed a whole lot of help from the refs and a whole lot of ineptness from Tech late in the game. Tech blew it but its beyond stupid the amount of bad calls/no calls the refs made.

help from the refs? lol, sound like a bitter fan to me. playing texas is a MUCH bigger game for them than a&m now. a&m is hardly competition for anyone in the big 12 these days.


hardly competition?? and yes, Tech and Baylor both view A&M as their rivalry game, both the schools will tell you that. Since when is a 4-1 conference record, with that only loss at the end of the game on a last second catch, make for hardly competition? you longhorns have a serious stick up your collective arses..we all see where Gameday is going this weekend, and it isn't Austin.
 

wyvrn

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Feb 15, 2000
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Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: wyvrn
Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
I'm still upset about Tennessee being ranked behind Cal but I am wondering if some of you BCS/mathematical gurus can help me out.

Will we finally jump ahead of Cal if, and I stress 'IF', we beat LSU on Saturday?

Tennessee looks like they are getting shafted to me. They are a good team.
They didn't really have a great outing vs unranked South Carolina, it was close until late. I wasn't impressed. At all. Same with Texas and Auburn.

You have to understand the ins and outs of the SEC to know why that game was close. Any time we play a Spurrier team it always ends up being a game that comes down to the end. I have no idea why but that's just how it is.

Yeah with rivalries it's just different. Same thing happens in the pros all the time.
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: mpitts
So what if tOSU loses a close game to Michigan. Do you honestly see them falling behind Texas in the human polls considering how tOSU handled Texas earlier in the season? Also, the computers would likely favor tOSU over just about every other 1-loss team considering that their only loss would be to the current #1 and they wound up playing a top-10 strength of schedule.

depends. the media is raving about colt mccoy and how much he has grown up over the last few games. add in having terrell brown back (if he had been on the field gonzales wouldn't have been open every other play, leaving osu with no option on offense) and a couple months to heal up, and it is conceivable that texas, come bowl time, would be better than ohio state. however, it would be close enough that even if ohio state were ranked behind texas in the people polls, ohio state's computer ranking would keep them ahead of texas.

Originally posted by: Wreckem
Rutgers will never be ranked high in the human polls to compete for a title shot. Theres no way they are jumping Florida, Texas, or Auburn, unless those teams lose.

The only way a Big East team this year is making the title game is if Louisvill or WVU win out, and OSU beats Michgan. If OSU loses, its likely they could still hold on to the #2 BCS spot.
if rutgers were to beat both louisville and wvu (both of which would have only 1 loss between them at that point, most likely), any rational voter would have to put rutgers right where WVU is right now.
Originally posted by: Wreckem
Actually, Tech prepares more for A&M, then anyone else so you are wrong there.
you little tortilla-throwing bastards in the stands might, but your team sure as hell doesn't.

we're not your rival.
 

Feldenak

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: mpitts
So what if tOSU loses a close game to Michigan. Do you honestly see them falling behind Texas in the human polls considering how tOSU handled Texas earlier in the season? Also, the computers would likely favor tOSU over just about every other 1-loss team considering that their only loss would be to the current #1 and they wound up playing a top-10 strength of schedule.

depends. the media is raving about colt mccoy and how much he has grown up over the last few games. add in having terrell brown back (if he had been on the field gonzales wouldn't have been open every other play, leaving osu with no option on offense) and a couple months to heal up, and it is conceivable that texas, come bowl time, would be better than ohio state. however, it would be close enough that even if ohio state were ranked behind texas in the people polls, ohio state's computer ranking would keep them ahead of texas.

Smith
Ginn
Gonzales
Pittman
Wells
Robiske

Texas is good but Terrell Brown can't cover everyone.

 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: Feldenak

Smith
Ginn
Gonzales
Pittman
Wells
Robiske

Texas is good but Terrell Brown can't cover everyone.

ginn was covered that whole game, and quite effectively, by aaron ross. gonzales was covered by a freshman the whole game. tarell brown would have locked down much harder than deon beasley. ohio state couldn't run on texas. smith can't do everything himself.

and again, i said conceivable.
 

Feldenak

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Edit: Nevermind, not worth it. I concede to ElFenix, Texas is the greatest football team in the land and the Big 12 rules all. :roll:
 

SP33Demon

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Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: wyvrn
Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
I'm still upset about Tennessee being ranked behind Cal but I am wondering if some of you BCS/mathematical gurus can help me out.

Will we finally jump ahead of Cal if, and I stress 'IF', we beat LSU on Saturday?

Tennessee looks like they are getting shafted to me. They are a good team.
They didn't really have a great outing vs unranked South Carolina, it was close until late. I wasn't impressed. At all. Same with Texas and Auburn.

You have to understand the ins and outs of the SEC to know why that game was close. Any time we play a Spurrier team it always ends up being a game that comes down to the end. I have no idea why but that's just how it is.
So when WVU (ranked) destroyed Pitt (unranked) in the Backyard Brawl last year, and when Wisconsin destroyed Minnesota for Bunyan's Axe this year, those games should have been closer because they were rivalries? However you want to justify Tennessee playing like crap to an unranked team, lol.


 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: Feldenak

Still leaving Robiske open to make the catches that Gonzo was making.

doubtful. one of the griffin boys would have him.
Originally posted by: Feldenak
Edit: Nevermind, not worth it. I concede to ElFenix, Texas is the greatest football team in the land and the Big 12 rules all. :roll:
boy, you're an ass. like it said, it's conceivable. take the game you saw played (i hope you saw it, otherwise you're just running your mouth), add in tarell brown and the more experienced colt mccoy, and you've got a more competitive ball game (again, if you'd seen it, you'd know it was much closer than the score. just look at the stats and you should be able to see that).
 

SP33Demon

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Originally posted by: wyvrn
Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: wyvrn
Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
I'm still upset about Tennessee being ranked behind Cal but I am wondering if some of you BCS/mathematical gurus can help me out.

Will we finally jump ahead of Cal if, and I stress 'IF', we beat LSU on Saturday?

Tennessee looks like they are getting shafted to me. They are a good team.
They didn't really have a great outing vs unranked South Carolina, it was close until late. I wasn't impressed. At all. Same with Texas and Auburn.

You have to understand the ins and outs of the SEC to know why that game was close. Any time we play a Spurrier team it always ends up being a game that comes down to the end. I have no idea why but that's just how it is.

Yeah with rivalries it's just different. Same thing happens in the pros all the time.
More naivete. Just because it happens once in a blue moon doesn't mean it's the norm (unranked teams beating rival ranked teams).

 

Feldenak

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: wyvrn
Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
I'm still upset about Tennessee being ranked behind Cal but I am wondering if some of you BCS/mathematical gurus can help me out.

Will we finally jump ahead of Cal if, and I stress 'IF', we beat LSU on Saturday?

Tennessee looks like they are getting shafted to me. They are a good team.
They didn't really have a great outing vs unranked South Carolina, it was close until late. I wasn't impressed. At all. Same with Texas and Auburn.

You have to understand the ins and outs of the SEC to know why that game was close. Any time we play a Spurrier team it always ends up being a game that comes down to the end. I have no idea why but that's just how it is.
So when WVU (ranked) destroyed Pitt (unranked) in the Backyard Brawl last year, and when Wisconsin destroyed Minnesota for Bunyan's Axe this year, those games should have been closer because they were rivalries? However you want to justify Tennessee playing like crap to an unranked team, lol.

Let me know when Pitt or Minnesota gets a coach on par with Steve Spurrier. You are definately making a case for "Why hoopies shouldn't be allowed near computers."
 

SP33Demon

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Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: wyvrn
Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
I'm still upset about Tennessee being ranked behind Cal but I am wondering if some of you BCS/mathematical gurus can help me out.

Will we finally jump ahead of Cal if, and I stress 'IF', we beat LSU on Saturday?

Tennessee looks like they are getting shafted to me. They are a good team.
They didn't really have a great outing vs unranked South Carolina, it was close until late. I wasn't impressed. At all. Same with Texas and Auburn.

You have to understand the ins and outs of the SEC to know why that game was close. Any time we play a Spurrier team it always ends up being a game that comes down to the end. I have no idea why but that's just how it is.
So when WVU (ranked) destroyed Pitt (unranked) in the Backyard Brawl last year, and when Wisconsin destroyed Minnesota for Bunyan's Axe this year, those games should have been closer because they were rivalries? However you want to justify Tennessee playing like crap to an unranked team, lol.

Let me know when Pitt or Minnesota gets a coach on par with Steve Spurrier. You are definately making a case for "Why hoopies shouldn't be allowed near computers."
Oh, you mean the same Steve Spurrier who had his team practice a no huddle offense so well that they pathetically squandered 1:XX minutes at the end of the game Saturday? Yeah, awesome coach. Spurrier was also incredible with the Redskins, didn't he win 3 Super Bowls?

 

Feldenak

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Jan 31, 2003
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Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: wyvrn
Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
I'm still upset about Tennessee being ranked behind Cal but I am wondering if some of you BCS/mathematical gurus can help me out.

Will we finally jump ahead of Cal if, and I stress 'IF', we beat LSU on Saturday?

Tennessee looks like they are getting shafted to me. They are a good team.
They didn't really have a great outing vs unranked South Carolina, it was close until late. I wasn't impressed. At all. Same with Texas and Auburn.

You have to understand the ins and outs of the SEC to know why that game was close. Any time we play a Spurrier team it always ends up being a game that comes down to the end. I have no idea why but that's just how it is.
So when WVU (ranked) destroyed Pitt (unranked) in the Backyard Brawl last year, and when Wisconsin destroyed Minnesota for Bunyan's Axe this year, those games should have been closer because they were rivalries? However you want to justify Tennessee playing like crap to an unranked team, lol.

Let me know when Pitt or Minnesota gets a coach on par with Steve Spurrier. You are definately making a case for "Why hoopies shouldn't be allowed near computers."
Oh, you mean the same Steve Spurrier who had his team practice a no huddle offense so well that they pathetically squandered 1:XX minutes at the end of the game Saturday? Yeah, awesome coach. Spurrier was also incredible with the Redskins, didn't he win 3 Super Bowls?

Keep the pro talk in pro football threads. Pete C was a lousy coach in the NFL and nobody's disputing the fact he's a great college coach. Two different games with different types of players & mindsets. Let's stick with comparing apples to apples please.

The officials certainly didn't help South Carolina either....more than 12 seconds to spot the ball after a completed pass? Even squandaring those precious seconds and the less than stellar clock management by a WR turned QB, a Spurrier coached team still nearly beat a UT team with a much deeper talent pool.

Go back a reread my bolded statement please and quit while you're ahead.
 

SP33Demon

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Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: wyvrn
Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
I'm still upset about Tennessee being ranked behind Cal but I am wondering if some of you BCS/mathematical gurus can help me out.

Will we finally jump ahead of Cal if, and I stress 'IF', we beat LSU on Saturday?

Tennessee looks like they are getting shafted to me. They are a good team.
They didn't really have a great outing vs unranked South Carolina, it was close until late. I wasn't impressed. At all. Same with Texas and Auburn.

You have to understand the ins and outs of the SEC to know why that game was close. Any time we play a Spurrier team it always ends up being a game that comes down to the end. I have no idea why but that's just how it is.
So when WVU (ranked) destroyed Pitt (unranked) in the Backyard Brawl last year, and when Wisconsin destroyed Minnesota for Bunyan's Axe this year, those games should have been closer because they were rivalries? However you want to justify Tennessee playing like crap to an unranked team, lol.

Let me know when Pitt or Minnesota gets a coach on par with Steve Spurrier. You are definately making a case for "Why hoopies shouldn't be allowed near computers."
Oh, you mean the same Steve Spurrier who had his team practice a no huddle offense so well that they pathetically squandered 1:XX minutes at the end of the game Saturday? Yeah, awesome coach. Spurrier was also incredible with the Redskins, didn't he win 3 Super Bowls?

Keep the pro talk in pro football threads. Pete C was a lousy coach in the NFL and nobody's disputing the fact he's a great college coach. Two different games with different types of players & mindsets. Let's stick with comparing apples to apples please.

The officials certainly didn't help South Carolina either....more than 12 seconds to spot the ball after a completed pass? Even squandaring those precious seconds and the less than stellar clock management by a WR turned QB, a Spurrier coached team still nearly beat a UT team with a much deeper talent pool.

Go back a reread my bolded statement please and quit while you're ahead.
Trying to justify that abysmal abomination of clock management by the Spurrier led Gamecocks is a testament to the fact that your knowledge of college football is analogous to an ebola ridden chimp climbing a tree and failing miserably.

PS: Tennessee sucks, the end.

 

erub

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Originally posted by: Wreckem
Actually, Tech prepares more for A&M, then anyone else so you are wrong there.
you little tortilla-throwing bastards in the stands might, but your team sure as hell doesn't.

we're not your rival.[/quote]

wait a second, aren't you agreeing with him, by saying that Texas isn't Tech's rival? Here's how it works:

TT hates A&M
A&M hates Texas
Texas hates OU

yep, one big line of hate

regardless, the "new improved" McCoy hasn't been exactly the most convincing offensive superstar that VY was, and probably never will be