BCS standings released, 10/29

[conjur]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: sciencewhiz
http://www.bcsfootball.org/cfb/story/6116538

USC losing helped West Virginia/Louisville the most because they have a clear shot at the national championship game. It hurt Cal and Notre Dame the most because a win against USC won't look as impressive now.

the best thing that could happen is louisville, wv, and rutgers all giving each other a loss over the next few weeks.

wv is 86th in SOS. horrible. louisville is 67th. ugh! rutgers is almost respectable at 53rd.

Scheduling Middle Tenn. St. was ridiculous and we do play UK every year and they perennially suck. Plus, teams like Cincinnati, UConn and Syracuse in our conference don't help.

But, we took out Miami and a pesky Kansas St. and beating WV and Rutgers would put us right in there

 

[mpitts]

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: mpitts
What I don't understand is this:

Why is it that the national media is so quick to try and find the "best 1-loss teams" yet they NEVER mention Michigan or Ohio State. All of the human polls have Michigan and tOSU at 1 and 2. One of those teams is going to lose to the other. Let's say it is a very good and close game (as UM/tOSU tends to be). The team that loses will have lost to the #1 team in the BCS. Michigan and tOSU are projected to have played the 3rd and 9th toughest schedule in the nation, respectively, after November 18th. Why is it so far fetched to believe that the two best teams in the country are UM and tOSU? Isn't that what the BCS was supposed to help decide?

Because there's no argument that those two are the best in the country...

Go look at the human polls if you want a dose of reality. What it will show is that the vast majority of voters in all three human polls currently believe tOSU is #1 and UM is #2. I don't see that changing before November 18th.


You can also see how people in the AP poll voted.

 

[mpitts]

Originally posted by: AgentEL

Originally posted by: xboxist

Originally posted by: mpitts
What I don't understand is this:

Why is it that the national media is so quick to try and find the "best 1-loss teams" yet they NEVER mention Michigan or Ohio State. All of the human polls have Michigan and tOSU at 1 and 2. One of those teams is going to lose to the other. Let's say it is a very good and close game (as UM/tOSU tends to be). The team that loses will have lost to the #1 team in the BCS. Michigan and tOSU are projected to have played the 3rd and 9th toughest schedule, respectively, in the nation after November 18th. Why is it so far fetched to believe that the two best teams in the country are UM and tOSU? Isn't that what the BCS was supposed to help decide?

Yeah, I was thinking that too. But the voters don't take too kindly to a loss of any kind, especially the week after. It's always been that way.

I wonder what would need to happen for OSU/Michigan to have a rematch in the title game? I think that OSU would have to be the 1-loss team. Seems like Michigan is weighted too low under OSU for them to lose and stay ahead all the other 1-loss teams.

In the case where OSU/Mich game is close, I hope that there is not a rematch for the championship game. It would clear up a lot more questions on who is the best team if the winner were to play an undefeated team (e.g. WV).

I agree with that. I was talking about a scenario where all of the relevant teams have one loss.

 

[cessna152]

Woot, Rutgers 8-0.

 

[czech09]

Originally posted by: Feldenak
How the devil did Florida jump over us?

Because you almost lost to Ole Miss...perhaps?

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: Balt
If WVU manages to make it to the NC it will just be a huge blowout. A UM/OSU rematch would be more entertaining.

That's what everyone said about WVU during last year's Sugar Bowl. WVU would smash OSU's run D, you heard it here first. Michigan would be tougher though.

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: sciencewhiz
http://www.bcsfootball.org/cfb/story/6116538

USC losing helped West Virginia/Louisville the most because they have a clear shot at the national championship game. It hurt Cal and Notre Dame the most because a win against USC won't look as impressive now.

the best thing that could happen is louisville, wv, and rutgers all giving each other a loss over the next few weeks.

wv is 86th in SOS. horrible. louisville is 67th. ugh! rutgers is almost respectable at 53rd.

Scheduling Middle Tenn. St. was ridiculous and we do play UK every year and they perennially suck. Plus, teams like Cincinnati, UConn and Syracuse in our conference don't help.

But, we took out Miami and a pesky Kansas St. and beating WV and Rutgers would put us right in there

I wont knock the playing of Miami. Its not Louisvilles fault Miami sucks ass this year. But K State? Fvcking Baylor beat Kansas State.

 

[Wreckem]

IF, a big IF, OSU loses to Michigan by a narrow margin. OSU would probably need to fall to 8th or so in the human polls for them not to be at #2 in the BCS poll. I dont see anyone dropping OSU that low if they lose a close game to Michigan.

if Michigan were to lose, theres no way they could stay at #2 in the BCS polls.

A scenario I would hate to see, is Auburn, Florida, WVU, and Lousiville all losing, putting Texas at #2.

 

[Safeway]

Texas ... 4th, 4th, 12th?!?!?!?! Texas > All.

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: Safeway
Texas ... 4th, 4th, 12th?!?!?!?! Texas > All.

Texas got extremely lucky to not lose the past two weekends.

I have this sick feeling in my gut, Auburn, Florida, Louisville, WVU, and Michgan all lose giving Texas a title berth. Texas is just that fvcking lucky enough for it to happen.

 

[erub]

how about some discussion of the Aggies as a 1 loss team?? Can't we buy a little respect?

Of course, probably cause nobody thinks we will get by the minefields of OU, Nebraska, @Texas (heck I'm by no means convinced myself)..but stranger things have happend

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: mpitts
What I don't understand is this:

Why is it that the national media is so quick to try and find the "best 1-loss teams" yet they NEVER mention Michigan or Ohio State. All of the human polls have Michigan and tOSU at 1 and 2. One of those teams is going to lose to the other. Let's say it is a very good and close game (as UM/tOSU tends to be). The team that loses will have lost to the #1 team in the BCS. Michigan and tOSU are projected to have played the 3rd and 9th toughest schedule in the nation, respectively, after November 18th. Why is it so far fetched to believe that the two best teams in the country are UM and tOSU? Isn't that what the BCS was supposed to help decide?

because that game is the previous game for both of those teams. so it doesn't make any sense to put them both in the title game, barring some miraculous crap happening (see florida's national title season). they had their shot, and the loser lost.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: Wreckem

Originally posted by: Safeway
Texas ... 4th, 4th, 12th?!?!?!?! Texas > All.

Texas got extremely lucky to not lose the past two weekends.

I have this sick feeling in my gut, Auburn, Florida, Louisville, WVU, and Michgan all lose giving Texas a title berth. Texas is just that fvcking lucky enough for it to happen.

are you some kind of aggie or something?

don't forget rutgers.

 

[touchmyichi]

Originally posted by: Balt

Originally posted by: nycxandy

Originally posted by: Balt
If WVU manages to make it to the NC it will just be a huge blowout. A UM/OSU rematch would be more entertaining.

I bet you thought Georgia was going to blowout West Virginia last year in the Sugar Bowl as well.

Probably, though I don't remember. I stand by my opinion however that WVU is ranked too high considering they haven't played anyone even remotely challenging yet.

Yup, that is the truth. The fact is that we don't know how good WVU really is until the Louisville showdown this week since they haven't really been tested. As for the Sugar Bowl? Please, just because WVU beat the SEC champ doesn't mean they would be undefeated right now in SEC play. Beating one team and going 12-0 against a league of very competitive teams are two very completely different things (which is why I think Cal, Auburn, Florida or even the loser of the OSU/UM matchup deserve the champ spot even if they have a loss). What if this is the case many years in a row? Why would teams like louisville and WVU even have incentive to schedule tough out of conference opponents when they could make a championship game with a well padded schedule? Somewhere down the line your team may be shafted because of this.

Or they could just do playoffs

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: erub
how about some discussion of the Aggies as a 1 loss team?? Can't we buy a little respect?

Of course, probably cause nobody thinks we will get by the minefields of OU, Nebraska, @Texas (heck I'm by no means convinced myself)..but stranger things have happend

Uh no.

A&M lost to an absolutely ****** Tech team(I go to Tech BTW). They went to OT with a ****** OK State team, and it took a goal line stand in the remaining seconds to beat Army.

And besides, without a prolific passing game, A&M is fuxxored against Texas. They arent going to be able to run the ball like they have been on the number 2 rushing defense.

Texas Linebackers are punishing. The Lane Train isnt going to be able to win this for A&M.

 

[mpitts]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: mpitts
What I don't understand is this:

Why is it that the national media is so quick to try and find the "best 1-loss teams" yet they NEVER mention Michigan or Ohio State. All of the human polls have Michigan and tOSU at 1 and 2. One of those teams is going to lose to the other. Let's say it is a very good and close game (as UM/tOSU tends to be). The team that loses will have lost to the #1 team in the BCS. Michigan and tOSU are projected to have played the 3rd and 9th toughest schedule in the nation, respectively, after November 18th. Why is it so far fetched to believe that the two best teams in the country are UM and tOSU? Isn't that what the BCS was supposed to help decide?

because that game is the previous game for both of those teams. so it doesn't make any sense to put them both in the title game, barring some miraculous crap happening (see florida's national title season). they had their shot, and the loser lost.

So what if tOSU loses a close game to Michigan. Do you honestly see them falling behind Texas in the human polls considering how tOSU handled Texas earlier in the season? Also, the computers would likely favor tOSU over just about every other 1-loss team considering that their only loss would be to the current #1 and they wound up playing a top-10 strength of schedule.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Originally posted by: sciencewhiz
http://www.bcsfootball.org/cfb/story/6116538

USC losing helped West Virginia/Louisville the most because they have a clear shot at the national championship game. It hurt Cal and Notre Dame the most because a win against USC won't look as impressive now.

It's sad. Cal doesn't have a shot at the championship anymore because USC lost. I cried yesterday. Ok no, but I nearly did. It was sad. Still, November 18th will be a wonderful day in front of my HDTV.

 

[touchmyichi]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Wreckem

Originally posted by: Safeway
Texas ... 4th, 4th, 12th?!?!?!?! Texas > All.

Texas got extremely lucky to not lose the past two weekends.

I have this sick feeling in my gut, Auburn, Florida, Louisville, WVU, and Michgan all lose giving Texas a title berth. Texas is just that fvcking lucky enough for it to happen.

are you some kind of aggie or something?

don't forget rutgers.

I agree with both of you, those are two very underrated teams. Texas A&M will rightfully join the title discussion if they somehow manage to pull off the oklahoma-nebraska-texas onslaught. Same goes for Rutgers. I would also like to add Arkansas to the list, a 7-1 team that has gotten way too little credit for their Auburn win.

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: mpitts

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: mpitts
What I don't understand is this:

Why is it that the national media is so quick to try and find the "best 1-loss teams" yet they NEVER mention Michigan or Ohio State. All of the human polls have Michigan and tOSU at 1 and 2. One of those teams is going to lose to the other. Let's say it is a very good and close game (as UM/tOSU tends to be). The team that loses will have lost to the #1 team in the BCS. Michigan and tOSU are projected to have played the 3rd and 9th toughest schedule in the nation, respectively, after November 18th. Why is it so far fetched to believe that the two best teams in the country are UM and tOSU? Isn't that what the BCS was supposed to help decide?

because that game is the previous game for both of those teams. so it doesn't make any sense to put them both in the title game, barring some miraculous crap happening (see florida's national title season). they had their shot, and the loser lost.

So what if tOSU loses a close game to Michigan. Do you honestly see them falling behind Texas in the human polls considering how tOSU handled Texas earlier in the season? Also, the computers would likely favor tOSU over just about every other 1-loss team considering that their only loss would be to the current #1 and they wound up playing a top-10 strength of schedule.

If OSU loses a close game to Michigan, IMHO it will be OSU vs Michigan for the title game, even if WVU is undefeated. The human polls would have to drastically drop OSU which is unlikely because its a loss vs a #2 team, not an unranked team.

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Wreckem

Originally posted by: Safeway
Texas ... 4th, 4th, 12th?!?!?!?! Texas > All.

Texas got extremely lucky to not lose the past two weekends.

I have this sick feeling in my gut, Auburn, Florida, Louisville, WVU, and Michgan all lose giving Texas a title berth. Texas is just that fvcking lucky enough for it to happen.

are you some kind of aggie or something?

don't forget rutgers.

Rutgers will never be ranked high in the human polls to compete for a title shot. Theres no way they are jumping Florida, Texas, or Auburn, unless those teams lose.

The only way a Big East team this year is making the title game is if Louisvill or WVU win out, and OSU beats Michgan. If OSU loses, its likely they could still hold on to the #2 BCS spot.

 

[erub]

Originally posted by: Wreckem

Originally posted by: erub
how about some discussion of the Aggies as a 1 loss team?? Can't we buy a little respect?

Of course, probably cause nobody thinks we will get by the minefields of OU, Nebraska, @Texas (heck I'm by no means convinced myself)..but stranger things have happend

Uh no.

A&M lost to an absolutely ****** Tech team(I go to Tech BTW). They went to OT with a ****** OK State team, and it took a goal line stand in the remaining seconds to beat Army.

And besides, without a prolific passing game, A&M is fuxxored against Texas. They arent going to be able to run the ball like they have been on the number 2 rushing defense.

Texas Linebackers are punishing. The Lane Train isnt going to be able to win this for A&M.

probably right. At the least, give me a shot at USC/Cal in the Holiday Bowl..we'll show how again overrated the Pac10 is this year, like TT did to Cal a couple years back.

 

[TuxDave]

Originally posted by: cessna152
Woot, Rutgers 8-0.

:thumbsup:

 

[Stuxnet]

Originally posted by: LS20
notre dame sucks anyways

 

[Stuxnet]

Originally posted by: Wreckem
A scenario I would hate to see, is Auburn, Florida, WVU, and Lousiville all losing, putting Texas at #2.

Wouldn't bother me a bit. I honestly believe Texas is the 2nd best team in the nation. Michigan is good, but I don't see them at #2.

What I would LOVE to see - which would never happen - is for Notre Dame to climb to #2 so Ohio State could BEAT THE LIVING FSCKING SNOT out of them in the title game. I hate those cockjockeys so much it makes my head spin.

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: czech09

Originally posted by: Feldenak
How the devil did Florida jump over us?

Because you almost lost to Ole Miss...perhaps?

It wasn't that close. Plus Florida didn't exactly shine in the Georgia game (who's also unranked).