Yes and what you fail to realise nor are UT, A&M, Tech or OSU. I dont care if three are 7-4. Hell A&M had the toughest SOS, OSU was right behind them. You seem to think OUs 7-4 teams were cupcakes.
Yes and what you fail to realise nor are UT, A&M, Tech or OSU. I dont care if three are 7-4. Hell A&M had the toughest SOS, OSU was right behind them. You seem to think OUs 7-4 teams were cupcakes.
that sort of logic doesnt work, LSU while a good team (almost lost to Oregon State) and Tennesee (lost to 4 loss Notre Dame)
same, A&M and Tech had some bad losses, trying pit diff conference teams against each other is just speculation,
Originally posted by: digitalsm
Originally posted by: kalster
Originally posted by: digitalsm
Originally posted by: kalster
Team Passing Defence
USC:#21 (Auburn #9, we could play better pass defence I guess, but we have OU beat by a big distance either way)
OU: #52
Team Rushing Defence
USC:#2 (Auburn #10, we are better in this aspect)
OU:#8
Team Scoring Defence
USC: # (Auburn #1, we dont need to borrow anything from AU again, our offense more than makes up)
Ou: #6
Team Total Defence
USC:#6 (Auburn #4, better than ours but we definetely dont need to borrow anything from them )
OU: #15
I'd say USC has the defence
Hmmmm lets see, what conference does OU play in? Oh thats right, the ALWAYS extremely competitve Big 12 that has who? Yes Texas Tech, who WILL throw ANYONES pass d out of whack. Yes OU weak spot is pass d but those rankings are based on statistics that cant really be compared fairly.
lets see everyone team in the PAC 10 plays the west coast offence, its always pass first and then run, anyway, i agree comparing just numbers doesnt give the true picture
Theres not to many teams in college football that routinely put up 500+ yard 5+ TD games like Tech. Tech has been doing this for 3 years now. They'd be able to do it against anyone, its the system they play. Sure the west coast offense racks up more passing than rushing, but it doesnt come close to Tech.
OU also played BGSU, the number 2 team in the nation in passing offense.
so, OU plays TTU #1 and BGSU #2 and you try to make a point about pass D? that being a whopping 18 yards a game on average.
you might want to do a little research. to call 18 yards a game a 'big difference' given the FACTS i presented is just ignorant.
Originally posted by: KLin
I'll have to see that to believe it
Maybe not easily, but UGA, LSU, and UTenn just were as impressive this year as they have been in the past. Tennesse is going down in the Cotton Bowl...
Thats what you guys are doing. You are saying OU and its only one game vs a 9+ win team is lacking SOS. When infact its not. The big 12 doesnt get respect even though it sends more teams to bowl games and IIRC wins more bowl games as well. I can understand if you bitch about the Northern Divison they didnt beat any Big 12 south team except Baylor. But OUs 7-4 teams are just as good at Auburns 9+ win teams. This is why we need a playoff system.
Funny, I seem to remember Kliff Kingsbury getting tossed around at the 'Shoe in 2002. First it was his name being tossed around before the game as a possible Heisman winner for the upcoming year. During the game it was him being tossed around by the OSU defensive line and LBs. TT's style breaks down against a very good D-line. That game would have ended 7-45 if OSU hadnt put in their second string defense in the 4th quarter.
ahahahhahaahah Auburn fans :thumbsdown:
Auburn doesn't deserve anything, and for that matter Auburn is going to get HUMILIATED in the Sugar Bowl. Oh wait, they're playing VT, perhaps they have a chance to win. Quick question for the Auburn fans: if it's so easy to see that Auburn is #1 or 2 in the nation, how come they are #3 in the polls. And don't give me this pre-season "bias" crap, Auburn had 12 games to prove itself. They didn't. If Auburn was that hungry for the title they should've gone out a whomped Tenn. OU came out and dominated Colorado. Auburn squeaked out a victory. Auburn had its chance and it failed. Maybe next season you won't schedule terrible teams for your non-conference games.
Auburn doesn't deserve anything, and for that matter Auburn is going to get HUMILIATED in the Sugar Bowl. Oh wait, they're playing VT, perhaps they have a chance to win. Quick question for the Auburn fans: if it's so easy to see that Auburn is #1 or 2 in the nation, how come they are #3 in the polls. And don't give me this pre-season "bias" crap, Auburn had 12 games to prove itself. They didn't. If Auburn was that hungry for the title they should've gone out a whomped Tenn. OU came out and dominated Colorado. Auburn squeaked out a victory. Auburn had its chance and it failed. Maybe next season you won't schedule terrible teams for your non-conference games.
I disagree entirely. Losses to Baylor and New Mexico for those two teams. Notre Dame is better than Baylor and New Mexico. Other than that -- UGA lost to UT and AU, UT lost to ND, AU, AU, and LSU lost to AU, and UGA.
So, LSU lost to only 9 win teams, UGA only lost to 9 win teams, UT lost to a 9 win team twice, and ND.
Baylor has 3 wins -- one versus A&M -- and then wins versus perennial powerhouse North Texas and Texas St. New Mexico was a bit better, but not like they had a tough schedule to play.">http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c...og/2004/newmexico.html</a>
ND isn't stellar at 6-5, but they beat Big 10 Champs Michigan and lost to BCS Bowl team Pittsburgh, a pretty decent BC, USC, and their one REAL bad game a 3 point loss to BYU.
Originally posted by: gistech1978
Originally posted by: digitalsm
Originally posted by: kalster
Originally posted by: digitalsm
Originally posted by: kalster
Team Passing Defence
USC:#21 (Auburn #9, we could play better pass defence I guess, but we have OU beat by a big distance either way)
OU: #52
Team Rushing Defence
USC:#2 (Auburn #10, we are better in this aspect)
OU:#8
Team Scoring Defence
USC: # (Auburn #1, we dont need to borrow anything from AU again, our offense more than makes up
Ou: #6
Team Total Defence
USC:#6 (Auburn #4, better than ours but we definetely dont need to borrow anything from them )
OU: #15
I'd say USC has the defence
Hmmmm lets see, what conference does OU play in? Oh thats right, the ALWAYS extremely competitve Big 12 that has who? Yes Texas Tech, who WILL throw ANYONES pass d out of whack. Yes OU weak spot is pass d but those rankings are based on statistics that cant really be compared fairly.
lets see everyone team in the PAC 10 plays the west coast offence, its always pass first and then run, anyway, i agree comparing just numbers doesnt give the true picture
Theres not to many teams in college football that routinely put up 500+ yard 5+ TD games like Tech. Tech has been doing this for 3 years now. They'd be able to do it against anyone, its the system they play. Sure the west coast offense racks up more passing than rushing, but it doesnt come close to Tech.
OU also played BGSU, the number 2 team in the nation in passing offense.
so, OU plays TTU #1 and BGSU #2 and you try to make a point about pass D? that being a whopping 18 yards a game on average.
you might want to do a little research. to call 18 yards a game a 'big difference' given the FACTS i presented is just ignorant.
whatz your point
i was just mereley saying SC has a good defenece, i never said its MUCH better than OU or that OU's is much worse,
This will be settled on Jan 1 when UTenn gets beat in Dallas. Yeah Baylor beat A&M, in a fluke game. Like Miami losing to UNC. Does that mean Miami sucks ass?
A&M lost 3 of its last 4 games, and is still ranked 20 in the BCS rankings. For awhile A&M was ranked in the top 8 by the BCS computers.
Let's see... they dominated Colorado? So did Ok. St and Texas. That makes OU better? :roll:
Let me guess, Arkansas fan?
Auburn did prove itself 12-0, 4 wins vs 9 win teams, won the SEC title, beat the defending national champions(who only lost to Auburn, and 9 win Georgia).
Guess what? We had Bowling Green scheduled for this year. OU paid for their buy-out cause BG's AD was OU's former ticket director. Yeah, blame the Auburn team of 2004 for a game that was scheduled in 1994. It is this team's fault that BG screwed us and only the Citadel was there. How could we "force" a team to schedule us? Idle threats?
but i thought the BCS is bullsh*t, so why use it to try and prove why you think AU should be in the game?
Well, BCS is ok.
Just let the top 8 BCS play in BCS bowl, and maybe make a playoff after that if possible.
It sucks to leave out Cal for example out of BCS bowl just because VT and Pittsburg win their conference.
See ya @ Miami
Just let the top 8 BCS play in BCS bowl, and maybe make a playoff after that if possible.
It sucks to leave out Cal for example out of BCS bowl just because VT and Pittsburg win their conference.
See ya @ Miami
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