BB OS 6 teaser

[bonkers325]

I'm not gonna waste my time to write out and explain why. I posted the features that iOS/Android does better, do your own research.

I'm not saying that BBs can't do the same things, its just that it sucks at doing them.



I agree and was what I've been stating in this thread. BB is good for business, not entertainment. I'm not sure why that's even being questioned in this thread.

BB OS 6 improves entertainment, but its still not good enough. This leads me to believe that only current BB users will find it appealing.

yep. if you're a die-hard Blackberry user, its because it does *exactly* what it is designed to do - act as a messenger. and it does so in an extremely efficient and organized manner. if you are using your phone as a serious business tool, whatever multimedia capabilities it has is a plus and not a necessity. but having a better browsing/multimedia experience surely won't hurt them. BB OS6 is not a grab for new customers, its to offer existing customers a better browsing/multimedia experience while maintaining the core functionality of Blackberry smartphones.

 

[AMDZen]

None of those graphs have anything to do with BB6. Troll on.

I didn't post the graphs dumb shit. It further proves the point that BB sucks which is completely relevant

Except you aren't. Maybe you should put up or shut up?

As for the Storm, see sig.

So you have a shitty phone. The shittiest I might add

Personal attacks, even mild ones, may be okay in P&N, but are not welcome, ever, in the technical forums. -Admin DrPizza

 

[DivideBYZero]

I didn't post the graphs dumb shit. It further proves the point that BB sucks which is completely relevant

Hey, FYI the thread is about BB6, the OS. Just seems like you missed that.

So you have a shitty phone. The shittiest I might add

Opinions are like you.

 

[MrX8503]

OS6 actually does look pretty nice. Its pretty "groundbreaking" compared to OS5. Does it do anything "groundbreaking" compared to Android or iOS? Maybe not, but if it now can do the modern smartphone tasks (touch interface, web browsing, media playing, etc) as well as those, along with Blackberry's top notch messaging/email system + solid hardware (best keyboards out there)....what's wrong with that?

There's nothing wrong with that. It benefits current BB users. What "dividedbyzero" is trying to suggest is that a BB in its current form or in its upgraded BB OS 6 can perform entertainment tasks just as well as an iPhone/Android device.

This is simply not true. I don't know of any BB user claiming this and I know quite a bit of BB users. If a BB could do entertainment as well, RIM wouldn't of made a sizable bid on Palm or even address entertainment in their OS 6.

BB OS5 = Great messenger, crappy entertainment
BB OS6 = Great messenger, mediocre entertainment

 

[DivideBYZero]

There's nothing wrong with that. It benefits current BB users. What "dividedbyzero" is trying to suggest is that a BB in its current form or in its upgraded BB OS 6 can perform entertainment tasks just as well as an iPhone/Android device.

This is simply not true. I don't know of any BB user claiming this and I know quite a bit of BB users. If a BB could do entertainment as well, RIM wouldn't of made a sizable bid on Palm or even address entertainment in their OS 6.

BB OS5 = Great messenger, crappy entertainment
BB OS6 = Great messenger, mediocre entertainment

You're simply wrong.

 

[QueBert]

DividedBYZero are you honestly trying to argue that BlackBerries are good for multimedia purposes? Wow, I understand you love RIM but that's a stretch. That would be like me saying the amount/quality of apps for my WM6.1 is close to what Apple has. The Storm was BB's first attempt at a touch screen/multimedia heavy phone and it failed to deliver big time. The people who loved it would probably love anything RIM put out. I have an Android and it semi fails when it comes to Multimedia, well it's at least very meh. And Android > BB OS5 by a long shot for multimedia. So...

 

[Cuda1447]

Here's what I just truly don't understand... and I own blackberries.... why are they considered amazing messaging/email devices, when compared to others?

Take for instance, a 9700 vs a Nexus.

Messaging: Both are threaded. Both are organized by name..... Android is customizable with Chomp/Handcent. It allows popup messaging. Talk to text etc... Perhaps blackberry has some apps that do those things. Oh, also Android has the notification bar for quicker viewing of new texts.

In what way is Blackberry actually superior in terms of messaging?

 

[dehemke]

I'm on my 3rd company issued BB, and they might be fine for people who have never seen anything better (iOS,Android), but for those of us who have experienced the promised land (I'm on my 2nd personal iPhone and plan on picking up a Galaxy S this weekend), BB's just feel like some soviet era east european garbage.

I hope they manage to improve though, competition is good.

 

[Pliablemoose]

None of those graphs have anything to do with BB6. Troll on.

See, that's where your massive blindside is about BB's those graphs have EVERYTHING to do with BB6.

Wether you'll admit that or not is the other issue.

Consumers aren't flocking to BB's, and they're not planning to.

BB has a massive problem in the consumer sector, they know it, you know it and you just won't admit it.

The sad thing is that BB could have owned the sector, they did own it and they lost it, and it's going to get worse.

BB won't go away, but the phones are becoming more irrelevant to consumers.

Who's going to buy a BB when they can have what's currently on the market?

And businesses are increasingly going to other phones, I can post lists of companies that are moving away from BB's but you know what's happening as well as i do.

BB can hold onto marketshare in come countries for now, but even you have to admit the consumer appeal of Android & Apple phones will be eroding BB sales in those countries.

The most creative stuff I've seen from BB is a tablet they want you to tether to your BB phone? Yeah, that's going to be a massive flop DBZ...

 

[DivideBYZero]

DividedBYZero are you honestly trying to argue that BlackBerries are good for multimedia purposes? Wow, I understand you love RIM but that's a stretch. That would be like me saying the amount/quality of apps for my WM6.1 is close to what Apple has. The Storm was BB's first attempt at a touch screen/multimedia heavy phone and it failed to deliver big time. The people who loved it would probably love anything RIM put out. I have an Android and it semi fails when it comes to Multimedia, well it's at least very meh. And Android > BB OS5 by a long shot for multimedia. So...

And yet not one of you extolling any other platform has explained WHY Multimedia is better on your choice or why it's so bad on BlackBerry. Until you do that you're just wasting keyboard cycles. :awe:

 

[DivideBYZero]

Here's what I just truly don't understand... and I own blackberries.... why are they considered amazing messaging/email devices, when compared to others?

Take for instance, a 9700 vs a Nexus.

Messaging: Both are threaded. Both are organized by name..... Android is customizable with Chomp/Handcent. It allows popup messaging. Talk to text etc... Perhaps blackberry has some apps that do those things. Oh, also Android has the notification bar for quicker viewing of new texts.

In what way is Blackberry actually superior in terms of messaging?

• Combined and separate email inboxes, you choose
• Colour coding of messages for each inbox, so you can identify account origin.
• Customizable Flag for follow up, with Calendar integration
• On device mail rules
• Customizable notification sounds/vibe
• Great notification system
• Save attachments to device memory or SD Card
• View and edit almost all attachments:

Popular Attachment Format Support

• Microsoft® Word
• Microsoft Excel
• Microsoft PowerPoint®
• Corel® WordPerfect®
• Adobe® PDF
• ASCII documents
• HTML attachments
• Images: JPG, BMP, GIF, PNG and TIFF
• File types listed above archived in .zip format

• Control how much information you receive
• Request the table of contents of a document, or view the full content at once Optimized for wireless delivery
• Formatting and font information is preserved where possible
• Documents are compressed for quicker delivery times
• Footnotes and tracked changes can be viewed where applicable
  
• View images
• Pan, zoom and rotate images with image manipulation tools
• Save images to your Pictures List to store them on your device
• View embedded images within .doc and .pdf files

Moving from standard out of the box to BES Express (free) or full BES leaves all other solutions in the dirt. Especially if you use Domino or Notes. I don't hear many Droids or iPhones connecting to those. I'm not going to list BES features as I'd break the board.

Just a quick list, but at least I'm providing reasons why it's still the best, rather than just trolling.

I await the predictable point by point run down of why it's shit and why Android can do it better.

 

[DivideBYZero]

See, that's where your massive blindside is about BB's those graphs have EVERYTHING to do with BB6.

Wether you'll admit that or not is the other issue.

Consumers aren't flocking to BB's, and they're not planning to.

BB has a massive problem in the consumer sector, they know it, you know it and you just won't admit it.

The most creative stuff I've seen from BB is a tablet they want you to tether to your BB phone? Yeah, that's going to be a massive flop DBZ...

The Changewave poll was conducted with early to mid 20 males. That's not a 'market' the last time I checked. Nice try though.

The tablet won't need to tether. Trust me. :sneaky:

 

[MrX8503]

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  Just a quick list, but at least I'm providing reasons why it's still the best, rather than just trolling.
  
  I await the predictable point by point run down of why it's shit and why Android can do it better.

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  I'm basing my opinions off the teaser. From what I can see from the demo, I can only see current BB users being impressed. Even with BB OS 6, its still dated. Luckily for RIM they handle email very well.

  
  I gave BB credit. I'm trolling? Whatever, I think you just pick and choose what you want to hear. I never once dogged BB's email system. I only targeted its multimedia features because that is what BB OS 6 is trying to improve.

 

[QueBert]

And yet not one of you extolling any other platform has explained WHY Multimedia is better on your choice or why it's so bad on BlackBerry. Until you do that you're just wasting keyboard cycles. :awe:

Simple, the user experience, which includes the interface and how it works. Look at how the device functions at playing media files. My Wm6 is a POS for listening to music, it does have a mobile version of WMP, so technically it does the same thing my iPod Touch does. But it's stupidly clunky, ugly, slow and totally undesirable. The BB is as bad as WM in this aspect. I suppose there are people who find the MM experience on a WM or BB device to be as good, or maybe even better then iOS or Android (anything's possible) I had an 8 gig SD card in my Moto Q and it was torture trying to listen to music. Where I pick up my Touch and it just feels right. BB & WM devices are not PMP's, they're phones that do support multimedia, but have absolute shit UI's for doing so. Imagine an iPod with the BB OS5 UI, nobody would want one. I understand you're a die hard BB user, but you honestly don't see how bad the OS is for multimedia? To me since all devices will play the same mp3's, and to an extent play the same video files. I'm going to use the one that has the best interface to do so. How many people do you think carry around a BB as a PMP? A BB isn't a PMP and OS6 isn't going to change this. It's a business phone that has some low tech media capabilities.

 

[Pliablemoose]

Just a quick list, but at least I'm providing reasons why it's still the best, rather than just trolling.

I await the predictable point by point run down of why it's shit and why Android can do it better.

Wait, aren't you the guy who extensively modded his car stereo to support an iPod?

 

[DivideBYZero]

Wait, aren't you the guy who extensively modded his car stereo to support an iPod?

What bearing on anything does that have? My iPod car integration has nothing to do with a phone OS. It runs on three old 60Gb Gen 4 iPods with an "OS" that can barely run a clock. If I used an iPhone, it would work, but with two glaring issues: 1) It won't charge as Apple took the firewire charging pin out of the dock on the iPhone and the Alpine KCA-420a uses that to charge. 2) The largest iPhone only has 32Gb, if you add NO apps, so is not big enough for my music collection. SO, using your logic I guess the iPhone sucks at mutimedia.

You're just trolling and point scoring, but not doing it very well.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Simple, the user experience, which includes the interface and how it works. Look at how the device functions at playing media files. My Wm6 is a POS for listening to music, it does have a mobile version of WMP, so technically it does the same thing my iPod Touch does. But it's stupidly clunky, ugly, slow and totally undesirable. The BB is as bad as WM in this aspect. I suppose there are people who find the MM experience on a WM or BB device to be as good, or maybe even better then iOS or Android (anything's possible) I had an 8 gig SD card in my Moto Q and it was torture trying to listen to music. Where I pick up my Touch and it just feels right. BB & WM devices are not PMP's, they're phones that do support multimedia, but have absolute shit UI's for doing so. Imagine an iPod with the BB OS5 UI, nobody would want one. I understand you're a die hard BB user, but you honestly don't see how bad the OS is for multimedia? To me since all devices will play the same mp3's, and to an extent play the same video files. I'm going to use the one that has the best interface to do so. How many people do you think carry around a BB as a PMP? A BB isn't a PMP and OS6 isn't going to change this. It's a business phone that has some low tech media capabilities.

How is this UI:

Better than this UI:

?

 

[QueBert]

LOL so you pick the worst possibly screen shot you could find on iOS compared to the best you can find on a Storm. Awesome sauce, the screen shot for both don't represent the UI. To be honest the top one with a near full screen high res cover kills the bottom one IMHO. I know my iPhone never looked like that. Can I double tap the Leona album cover to have it flip 180 to revile the entire albums track list? So, how's navigating a 30 gig music collection on your Storm?

Coverflow?
Smart iTunes playlist support?

Never mind, you're going to tell me it's far superior, the scary part is I think you actually believe it.

 

[MrX8503]

Lol one picture doesn't show how the UI functions. Hands down the iPhone has the best music interface.

Add in....

Apps
Videos
Photos
Web browsing

And it's not even a contest. My friend has a Curve and it was a nightmare to see how the above functions work on her device. Not only that the hardware sucks compared to anything to the likes of a snapdragon or an A4

 

[DivideBYZero]

LOL so you pick the worst possibly screen shot you could find on iOS compared to the best you can find on a Storm. Awesome sauce, the screen shot for both don't represent the UI. To be honest the top one with a near full screen high res cover kills the bottom one IMHO. I know my iPhone never looked like that. Can I double tap the Leona album cover to have it flip 180 to revile the entire albums track list? So, how's navigating a 30 gig music collection on your Storm?

Coverflow?
Smart iTunes playlist support?

Never mind, you're going to tell me it's far superior, the scary part is I think you actually believe it.

Oh my, you don't like the reality so you keep going? Wow.

Rotate that Storm and the cover goes full screen, too, but you knew that, right? Then if I hit back up key I do get the whole album, yeah, or my playlist, or whatever list of songs I'm listening to in the way I selected it. Then I have all my iTunes playlists, search, by genre, album, artist and all songs. I can add anything I find to a playlist on the fly as I find it.

So, yes, iTunes playlists are supported and it's part of the Desktop Manager bundle now, BlackBerry Media Sync, but you knew that, too, right?

So navigating 30Gb of songs is easy, but you knew that, or maybe you didn't and you just learnt something today, so today's a good day for you.

I'll just wait for you to call it shit again, even though it's pretty darn good, and when I travel, which is a lot, it's my PMP. Deal with it.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Lol one picture doesn't show how the UI functions. Hands down the iPhone has the best music interface.

Add in....

Apps
Videos
Photos
Web browsing

And it's not even a contest. My friend has a Curve and it was a nightmare to see how the above functions work on her device. Not only that the hardware sucks compared to anything to the likes of a snapdragon or an A4

Apps: I'm running over 50 third party apps on my BlackBerry. They all multitask. Games use OpenGL for 3D, too.
Videos: *yawn* I have several movies on my BlackBerry at any one time.
Photos: Are you serious?! Tons of them, thanks for asking, with a nice swipe interface for browsing them full screen.
Web Browsing: Vs OS5, you got me beat for sure. Vs OS6, you got nothing.

 

[MrX8503]

Apps: I'm running over 50 third party apps on my BlackBerry. They all multitask. Games use OpenGL for 3D, too.
Videos: *yawn* I have several movies on my BlackBerry at any one time.
Photos: Are you serious?! Tons of them, thanks for asking, with a nice swipe interface for browsing them full screen.
Web Browsing: Vs OS5, you got me beat for sure. Vs OS6, you got nothing.

50 apps? Don't make me laugh. Photos? Face detection, events, and geotagging on the iPhone. Web browsing? Dude even BB OS 6 can't compare.

 

[DivideBYZero]

50 apps? Don't make me laugh. Photos? Face detection, events, and geotagging on the iPhone. Web browsing? Dude even BB OS 6 can't compare.

Apps make you laugh? How odd.

Face detection is native in iOS4? Nah. Bad luck

Geotagging? Been in BB OS for ages. Try again.

OS6 Web browsing? Try Acid 3 100/100, pinch to zoom, Flash... :awe:

 

[QueBert]

I've seen the error of my ways, The Storm is the single greatest PMP EVAR! I don't know how I could have thought a fucking iPod was better at handling Media. I can't wait for RIM's PMP to come out, it will crush my puny iPod.

You are hilarious, I'm done with this though because you will take your BB OS is great at media belief with you to the grave. And I thought Apple Fanboys were delusional.

 

[DivideBYZero]

I've seen the error of my ways, The Storm is the single greatest PMP EVAR! I don't know how I could have thought a fucking iPod was better at handling Media. I can't wait for RIM's PMP to come out, it will crush my puny iPod.

You are hilarious, I'm done with this though because you will take your BB OS is great at media belief with you to the grave. And I thought Apple Fanboys were delusional.

Because you asked me a question and I answered it, I'm delusional? Fucking AWESOME! You called it shit, you claimed it couldn't do a ton of stuff, I called you out, PROVED it could and that it looked good doing it. I showed you the crappy iPod interface next to the OLD 4.7 interface and apparently now you're "done with this"?? Wow, grow up. Playground name calling must be at least two years behind you by now.

I not once claimed the BlackBerry was the best PMP Ijust claimed it is no where near as shit as you and others called it.