BB OS 6 teaser

[DivideBYZero]

Blackberries are all business and nothing about multimedia. The teaser is targeting media users and if a teaser fails to impress, I'm not gonna waste my time going through a rehash of an OS that wasn't meant for media in the first place. The teaser barely came close to what iOS4/Android is doing now.

What sort of media can you use on an Android or iPhone that you can't use on a Blackberry? Music? No, that works fine. What about Movies? Nope, they work fine too. Images, surely images don't work? Yep they work too, in fact with a BlackBerry you can take a picture and email it, which you cannot do on an iPhone, for example.

Is it that the BlackBerry has nothing about multimedia, or you know nothing about BlackBerry?

 

[Bateluer]

in fact with a BlackBerry you can take a picture and email it, which you cannot do on an iPhone, for example.

Err, I thought the iPhone could email pictures? I know in its first few years, it couldn't send MMS messages because of AT&T's network, but that was enabled.

 

[MrX8503]

What sort of media can you use on an Android or iPhone that you can't use on a Blackberry? Music? No, that works fine. What about Movies? Nope, they work fine too. Images, surely images don't work? Yep they work too, in fact with a BlackBerry you can take a picture and email it, which you cannot do on an iPhone, for example.

Is it that the BlackBerry has nothing about multimedia, or you know nothing about BlackBerry?

Looks like you're the one who knows nothing about the iPhone. Congratulations you listed off things a BB can do, but can't do any of them well. Like I said it's great for work and messaging, that's all. BB OS 6 is trying to compete on a multimedia level, but it still comes up short.

 

[gorcorps]

Do you always only listen to yourself talk? I gave credit to BB about its email. Other than it doing one thing well, whoopty doo, congratulations, thats so groundbreaking. Like I said only BB users would get a kick out of BB OS 6.

I don't even have a friggin blackberry. I'm not a lost fanboy like you... you don't HAVE to own the fucking phone to understand how it can beat the competition. Every single post of yours has been filled with retarded ignorance, and ignorant retardation. If it's not the phone for you then fine, it's not the phone for me either... but at least I can see where the huge marketshare for RIM comes from.

Quit trollin

 

[DivideBYZero]

Err, I thought the iPhone could email pictures? I know in its first few years, it couldn't send MMS messages because of AT&T's network, but that was enabled.

Looks like I translated the following article incorrectly. What you cannot do is attach a photo when composing an email, pretty much the same thing and is an example of a weaker email implementation. I'm not wishing to bash on iPhone here, just stating that not all mobile OS's are perfect, in fact far from it. We have several years to go with ALL platforms before the stuff we do today is super slick and flexible.

Article:

1- Lack of User Customization: Sure, iOS 4 adds the ability to choose your home screen wallpaper. That’s about the extent of the customization experience. What the iPhone still lacks are the basics. There is still no way to add your own custom sounds for SMS messages. You’re still limited to the default selections. There are many apps that use their own sounds for notifications but the user cannot select their own sounds for their own use. Same goes for FaceTime. There is no way to distinguish FaceTime callers without physically looking at the screen. Sure, it’s not that big a deal but it would be nice.
2- Wireless Hotspot: This is one that really bugs me. How is it that if I jailbreak my iOS device and pay for an app like MyWi, I can instantly create a wireless hotspot? But if I go the legit route of paying the additional $20 a month on top of a $24.95 data plan (assuming you’re willing to give up your unlimited plan) I can only tether 2GB of data total and I’m still not able to make a wireless hotspot. I would have to tether using USB or Bluetooth. The iPhone and iPad are obviously capable of creating wireless hotspots so why not make it easy for the average consumer?
3- Organized Notifications: It seems like Apple fails to make decent use of the lock screen. If I have multiple notifications, right now I only see the first notification on the lock screen. Once I unlock my device, I am hit by a flurry of unorganized notifications. Apple needs to take a cue from the Palm WebOS notification system. Users should be able to decide whether they want to see multiple notifications at once and also have the ability to save those notifications for future viewing.
4- Wireless Syncing: Here’s one area where Microsoft has somewhat succeeded over Apple. I remember buying a Zune in late 2007 and being able to update and manage my media wirelessly with my laptop. We are now nearing late 2010. The technology exists to accomplish this type of wireless syncing (it exists for the iPhone if you’re willing to jailbreak). It is time Apple cuts the cord and saves iPhone users a few bucks. Especially since a dock is no longer included with any of their devices.
5- Email: Yes, I love the new threaded and unified inbox but some of us need a bit more functionality. If you’re in your unified inbox, there is no simple indication telling you what inbox the current message is in. A simple color coded email or icon at the top of the email would make email much easier. There also needs to be an easier way to add media while still composing an email. If I need to add a photo from my camera roll, I have to either copy it from the camera roll or start my composing process from within the Photos app. Apple could simply add a function to the current Copy and Paste dialogue box. They could add something that says “Insert” when you tap and hold inside an email message which would allow you access to not only photos but apps such as GoodReader or even the PDF portion of iBooks. This would greatly improve an already outstanding email app.

Link: http://www.cultofmac.com/features-ios-4-is-still-missing/49380

 

[DivideBYZero]

Looks like you're the one who knows nothing about the iPhone. Congratulations you listed off things a BB can do, but can't do any of them well. Like I said it's great for work and messaging, that's all. BB OS 6 is trying to compete on a multimedia level, but it still comes up short.

How so? Why are they not done well? Please explain.

 

[TheWart]

AFAIK, it resizes all photos, rather than sending, or giving you the option to send it full size. I may be wrong.

You can choose to have it send the pic full size. Incidentally, I can't stand it when people send pics taken on a cell phone full size. Unless you are using a DSLR (and even then, if it is for recreational viewing), please for the love of god resize the image down before you send it. It is annoying to open up photos that someone sent you from their phone and it is like 2048x1600 or some huge res that looks horrible lol.

 

[DivideBYZero]

You can choose to have it send the pic full size. Incidentally, I can't stand it when people send pics taken on a cell phone full size. Unless you are using a DSLR (and even then, if it is for recreational viewing), please for the love of god resize the image down before you send it. It is annoying to open up photos that someone sent you from their phone and it is like 2048x1600 or some huge res that looks horrible lol.

Yeah, I edited that post, please see above.

 

[MrX8503]

I don't even have a friggin blackberry. I'm not a lost fanboy like you... you don't HAVE to own the fucking phone to understand how it can beat the competition. Every single post of yours has been filled with retarded ignorance, and ignorant retardation. If it's not the phone for you then fine, it's not the phone for me either... but at least I can see where the huge marketshare for RIM comes from.

Quit trollin

Dude don't get mad just cause I called you out for not reading my post. I'm not trolling, I brought up valid reasons why BB OS isn't quite there, you just don't like to hear it. Call me a troll if it makes you feel better.

BTW, I didn't assume you have a BB, I was replying to the original thread about how only BB users will get a kick out of BB OS 6.

How so? Why are they not done well? Please explain.

Music, photos, web surfing, apps, games, navigation, video are done better on either ios4 or Android. I don't wanna get into details as that would be many pages long

 

[DivideBYZero]

Dude don't get mad just cause I called you out for not reading my post. I'm not trolling, I brought up valid reasons why BB OS isn't quite there, you just don't like to hear it. Call me a troll if it makes you feel better.

BTW, I didn't assume you have a BB, I was replying to the original thread about how only BB users will get a kick out of BB OS 6.



Music, photos, web surfing, apps, games, navigation, video are done better on either ios4 or Android. I don't wanna get into details as that would be many pages long

Music, no, especially vs Android's "Music" app.
Photos, no.
Web surfing, not on OS6, it will be better than iOS4 and Android due to it's webkit (100/100 Acid3) based browser and Flash.
Apps, How? Sheer numbers? 190,000 cookie cutter apps != better.
Navigation, no, there are tons more nav apps on BB and even google maps is most feature rich on BB, not iOS(iOS has about 50% the feature set of the BB version)
Video, no.

I'm sure getting into details would be tough for you as you don't seem to have any.

 

[MrX8503]

Music, no, especially vs Android's "Music" app.
Photos, no.
Web surfing, not on OS6, it will be better than iOS4 and Android due to it's webkit (100/100 Acid3) based browser and Flash.
Apps, How? Sheer numbers? 190,000 cookie cutter apps != better.
Navigation, no, there are tons more nav apps on BB and even google maps is most feature rich on BB, not iOS(iOS has about 50% the feature set of the BB version)
Video, no.

I'm sure getting into details would be tough for you as you don't seem to have any.

So your answers are:

1. No
2. No
3. Flash
4. Cookie Cutter apps
5. BB google maps
6. No

Great explanation buddy.

We all know what phone you prefer, I'm not gonna convince you otherwise. I know that iPhone/Android implements the features above much better than a BB. iPhone users know that, Android users know that, the CEO of BB knows that.

 

[QueBert]

My WM6.1 phone can play videos and mp3, but I'm not going to sit here and try to say it's anywhere near as good as iOS. While I've never seen BB OS6 in action, but unless it's literally 180 different multimedia wise. It'll suck as bad as my WM6.1 phone when it comes to anything multimedia. For reference I think Android's multimedia capabilities are way better than my WM6, and I think they absolutely suck next to the iPhone's. If Blackberry tries to match MM features with Apple they're going to fail hard.

 

[DivideBYZero]

So your answers are:

1. No
2. No
3. Flash
4. Cookie Cutter apps
5. BB google maps
6. No

Great explanation buddy.

We all know what phone you prefer, I'm not gonna convince you otherwise. I know that iPhone/Android implements the features above much better than a BB. iPhone users know that, Android users know that, the CEO of BB knows that.

It was more detailed than anything you posted, and better informed. Troll on.

 

[DivideBYZero]

My WM6.1 phone can play videos and mp3, but I'm not going to sit here and try to say it's anywhere near as good as iOS. While I've never seen BB OS6 in action, but unless it's literally 180 different multimedia wise. It'll suck as bad as my WM6.1 phone when it comes to anything multimedia. For reference I think Android's multimedia capabilities are way better than my WM6, and I think they absolutely suck next to the iPhone's. If Blackberry tries to match MM features with Apple they're going to fail hard.

Honest question; What makes iOS' "multimedia" handling great and/or better than anything else?

 

[AMDZen]

What sort of media can you use on an Android or iPhone that you can't use on a Blackberry? Music? No, that works fine. What about Movies? Nope, they work fine too. Images, surely images don't work? Yep they work too, in fact with a BlackBerry you can take a picture and email it, which you cannot do on an iPhone, for example.

Is it that the BlackBerry has nothing about multimedia, or you know nothing about BlackBerry?

Nobody would argue that the blackberry can't do those things. They would argue that iOS and Android do those things exponentially better.

Have you seen BB's foray into touch screens? The Storm has got to be the worst phone i've ever used.

You are clearly a dying breed, and maybe you don't know that but you will soon enough

Honest question; What makes iOS' "multimedia" handling great and/or better than anything else?

I could spend the whole day explaining this to you. Try owning a droid or iPhone and you will find out for yourself.

 

[Pliablemoose]

I could spend the whole day explaining this to you. Try owning a droid or iPhone and you will find out for yourself.



Nobody would argue that the blackberry can't do those things. They would argue that iOS and Android do those things exponentially better.

Have you seen BB's foray into touch screens? The Storm has got to be the worst phone i've ever used.

You are clearly a dying breed, and maybe you don't know that but you will soon enough

Well, to be honest, they kick Palm's ass in that last graph, oh wait, Palm is HP now... Hmmm

 

[AMDZen]

Well there you go. Pliablemoose did with just a few graphs more then I would have wanted to with words.

 

[bonkers325]

what's the point of comparing iOS and Android to BB OS?

BB OS is a business-oriented OS that has expanded to include multimedia capabilities. Blackberries are, to the core, a business phone. anything else that they are capable of doing is just an afterthought, which is evident in the previous and current BB OS revisions.

iPhone and Android are user-experience oriented OS that can 'do it all', but quite simply put they are entertainment phones that can be expanded for business use. but it won't be as good as a phone that was developed solely for business uses.


for what its worth, i know many businessmen/women who own iPhones. but they also own Blackberries. because one is for business, the other is for pleasure. they dont settle into one 'camp' because neither one is perfectly suitable for what they need. its just the truth.

 

[cronos]

You are correct.

The back and forth really started to get going because of this simple statement: "From what I can see from the demo, I can only see current BB users being impressed."

This basically says that this new BB OS will not get BB new users. Therefore, what you're saying about how we shouldn't compare 'business phone' with 'entertainment phone' will hold true. Some people will only use one, while others will keep using both for different purposes.

In short, this new OS6 will change nothing.

Apparently some BB fans here did not like that statement.

 

[MrX8503]

It was more detailed than anything you posted, and better informed. Troll on.

I'm not gonna waste my time to write out and explain why. I posted the features that iOS/Android does better, do your own research.

I'm not saying that BBs can't do the same things, its just that it sucks at doing them.

BB OS is a business-oriented OS that has expanded to include multimedia capabilities. Blackberries are, to the core, a business phone. anything else that they are capable of doing is just an afterthought, which is evident in the previous and current BB OS revisions.

I agree and was what I've been stating in this thread. BB is good for business, not entertainment. I'm not sure why that's even being questioned in this thread.

BB OS 6 improves entertainment, but its still not good enough. This leads me to believe that only current BB users will find it appealing.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Well there you go. Pliablemoose did with just a few graphs more then I would have wanted to with words.

None of those graphs have anything to do with BB6. Troll on.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Nobody would argue that the blackberry can't do those things. They would argue that iOS and Android do those things exponentially better.

Have you seen BB's foray into touch screens? The Storm has got to be the worst phone i've ever used.

You are clearly a dying breed, and maybe you don't know that but you will soon enough

I could spend the whole day explaining this to you. Try owning a droid or iPhone and you will find out for yourself.

Except you aren't. Maybe you should put up or shut up?

As for the Storm, see sig.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Well, to be honest, they kick Palm's ass in that last graph, oh wait, Palm is HP now... Hmmm

An issue that has been noted about changewave:

Something that is worth questioning with regards to the ChangeWave study is the demographics of who is participating in the survey. The survey results seem very skewed towards a North American, mid-20s demographic, where RIM does have some customer satisfaction issues. Where BlackBerry shines in customer satisfaction, is the above 30 and below 20 age groups, as well as international markets.

Nice colours though.

 

[Deeko]

OS6 actually does look pretty nice. Its pretty "groundbreaking" compared to OS5. Does it do anything "groundbreaking" compared to Android or iOS? Maybe not, but if it now can do the modern smartphone tasks (touch interface, web browsing, media playing, etc) as well as those, along with Blackberry's top notch messaging/email system + solid hardware (best keyboards out there)....what's wrong with that?

 

[DivideBYZero]

OS6 actually does look pretty nice. Its pretty "groundbreaking" compared to OS5. Does it do anything "groundbreaking" compared to Android or iOS? Maybe not, but if it now can do the modern smartphone tasks (touch interface, web browsing, media playing, etc) as well as those, along with Blackberry's top notch messaging/email system + solid hardware (best keyboards out there)....what's wrong with that?

What's wrong is the Phandroid masses and the iDrones love to shit in BlackBerry threads. It's tiresome.