Battlefield: Bad Company

[gorcorps]

Originally posted by: TehMac

Originally posted by: ConstipatedVigilante
Granted, vehicles are a bit unbalanced - particularly air units. But that's it. Tanks are toast in an urban environment, and with decent AA most pilots can still be taken down.

Yeah, I have been arguing this for a while, but all the CoD4 n00bs don't understand.

For the reccord, I own both games and by far I had an extremely enjoyable experience with Bf2. I'd get pissed, granted, but the game was fun--I wanted to play it.

CoD4...well, I play some MP every now and then. Not that fun of a game.

At least CoD4 functions... every fucking patch for BF2 screwed up my game and I'd have to reinstall to get it to work. Even that didn't solve it all the time.

 

[evident]

all the BF's beside 1942 sucked. end of story

 

[KeithTalent]

Originally posted by: DannyLove

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Originally posted by: DannyLove

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Originally posted by: Ackmed

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Originally posted by: pontifex
how people still get excited about BF games after the last 2 or 3 crapfests is beyond me.

I concur. BF2 was all kinds of horrible.

KT

Too bad all reviews, and the vast majority of user opinions disagree with you.

Yeah, and a tonne of reviews and people loved Halo 2 & 3, what's your point?

KT

lots of lemmings out there being convinced of a huge marketing push on Halo thats the difference. Everywhere you went, you heard about Halo, they had them on mountain dew bottles for gods sake. It wins the best marketing, doesn't make it a good game. Hell, from what I hear it simply blows just like Halo 1 (who amazingly someone said would take over Bf2 anyday, give me a break). This forum section has turned to gargbage opinions and random thoughts, just to sound different.

BF2 is still an amazing game. Still play it to this day. The teamwork involved, the strategy. Even in a no vehicle server, its pure action. I still play with my clansmate in a squad owning n00bs like you who probably played lone wolf and kept crying about how you died quickly when jets bombed your uncap. I can almost bet that all the BF2 haters never played it the way it was meant to be played, who never played it to its full potential and that is, teamwork. Its ok to tell me you dont have friends, I'd understand, lulz

I love when people resort to personal insults to try and make a point; well done sir.

I found the game boring and buggy as hell. The vehicles seemed horribly unbalanced and I just did not find it fun to run around like an idiot most of the time. I also felt the way the way the weapons worked were absolutely craptacular, or maybe it was just the hitboxes, I don't know. It's been a very long time since I played it, so I can't remember exactly all of the issues I had with it.

Anyway, suffice to say this game is not for me and there are plenty of reasons why. I play CS with teamwork, I play TF2 with teamwork, and I really enjoy those games, but BF2 just bored me no matter who I played with, friends or otherwise.

KT

PS: I would take Halo 1 for PC over BF2 in a heartbeat, since I actually had fun playing that game.

You either played the game for 1 hour tops, had a kill death ratio of 1:50, couldn't adapt to people owning you, or all of the above. The way the weapons were? The way the vehicles were unbalanced? Are you serious? LULZ.
So since you dont like running around like an idiot, I'm going to assume you DONT play COD4 right?????

No I don't play COD4, but again, what does that have to do with anything?

My kill to death ratio has no bearing on whether I like a game or not. Unlike you, apparently, I do not feel the need to be completely uber at something to enjoy it. I am absolutely abysmal at CS:S, but I still love the game, so your comments are completely, and utterly without merit. Feel free to keep trying though.

KT

 

[KeithTalent]

Originally posted by: TehMac

Originally posted by: KeithTalentPS: I would take Halo 1 for PC over BF2 in a heartbeat, since I actually had fun playing that game.

In this instance, sounds like you didn't know how to play Bf2.

Hmm, run, shoot, kill (sometimes)...what else is there to know exactly?

KT

 

[ZappDogg]

Nothing is better than 64 man Karkand. I'm sorry, it's the truth and you know it.

 

[Auric]

Forgotten Hope uber alles.

 

[HeXploiT]

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Originally posted by: TehMac

Originally posted by: KeithTalentPS: I would take Halo 1 for PC over BF2 in a heartbeat, since I actually had fun playing that game.

In this instance, sounds like you didn't know how to play Bf2.

Hmm, run, shoot, kill (sometimes)...what else is there to know exactly?

KT

Are you sure you've played BF2? Don't forget "Drive" & "Fly".

 

[DannyLove]

Originally posted by: ConstipatedVigilante
but I haven't found another game with vehicle combat in the same league.

I actually wished COD4 was going to be like that. Before BF2, COD:UO was the only MP that I loved with vehicles involved..... COD4 was just one huge disappointment.


Again, it was marketed to crap like Halo so please don't link me to how many millions of copies sold trying to justify how great the game really is... it all comes down to end game. MP = end game, and when its just a random slug fest of chickens running around shooting,, yea... BF2 ANY f'ing day.

 

[KeithTalent]

Originally posted by: Perry404

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Originally posted by: TehMac

Originally posted by: KeithTalentPS: I would take Halo 1 for PC over BF2 in a heartbeat, since I actually had fun playing that game.

In this instance, sounds like you didn't know how to play Bf2.

Hmm, run, shoot, kill (sometimes)...what else is there to know exactly?

KT

Are you sure you've played BF2? Don't forget "Drive" & "Fly".

Yeah, I have driven most the vehicles around, but I can't fly the planes very well at all. I always end up crashing in the water, though crashing the planes is one of the most fun parts of the game for me. Actually, now that I think of it I didn't mind driving the boats either, but once I got to land it was all downhill.

KT

 

[skace]

Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Hmm, run, shoot, kill (sometimes)...what else is there to know exactly?

KT

There are 4 guns to learn per class (not counting pistols / etc), all with different accuracies. There are at least 4 different helicopters, and while the chineese and cobra fly similar, they all need to be learned differently.
You need to learn how to guide TV missiles properly
You need to learn how to effectively setup mine traps as an engineer
How to use C4 as a spec ops
People don't become good medics over night.
Sniping requires learning how to judge bullet drop
You need to learn how to fly jets, and I don't know the intricacies of any of the jets at all since I never used them.
Any retard can drive a tank, but it requires some intelligence to drive one properly and use it as effective support fire that it is supposed to be used for.
You need to learn how to command the battlefield using a unique interface and when and where to drop artillery strikes
You need to learn how to make the motor boat do wheelies (.....) ok not really, but that is badass, just like doing windmills in the chopper.
You need to learn the maps and how to defend the various capture points, where to expect artillery strikes from and how to communicate with the commander as squad leader


What I've talked about above takes very little into account from special forces, such as zip lines, etc. Because I don't play special forces and never bought any of the other exp packs.

Now that you know these things, you need to develop actual working tactics and strategies.

 

[HeXploiT]

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Originally posted by: Perry404

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Originally posted by: TehMac

Originally posted by: KeithTalentPS: I would take Halo 1 for PC over BF2 in a heartbeat, since I actually had fun playing that game.

In this instance, sounds like you didn't know how to play Bf2.

Hmm, run, shoot, kill (sometimes)...what else is there to know exactly?

KT

Are you sure you've played BF2? Don't forget "Drive" & "Fly".

Yeah, I have driven most the vehicles around, but I can't fly the planes very well at all. I always end up crashing in the water, though crashing the planes is one of the most fun parts of the game for me. Actually, now that I think of it I didn't mind driving the boats either, but once I got to land it was all downhill.

KT

Well if you haven't tried the choppers you'd better get back in the game. The helicopters in BF2 are a game in themselves. Sometimes I'll join an empty server just to fly them.

 

[KeithTalent]

Originally posted by: Perry404

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Originally posted by: Perry404

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Originally posted by: TehMac

Originally posted by: KeithTalentPS: I would take Halo 1 for PC over BF2 in a heartbeat, since I actually had fun playing that game.

In this instance, sounds like you didn't know how to play Bf2.

Hmm, run, shoot, kill (sometimes)...what else is there to know exactly?

KT

Are you sure you've played BF2? Don't forget "Drive" & "Fly".

Yeah, I have driven most the vehicles around, but I can't fly the planes very well at all. I always end up crashing in the water, though crashing the planes is one of the most fun parts of the game for me. Actually, now that I think of it I didn't mind driving the boats either, but once I got to land it was all downhill.

KT

Well if you haven't tried the choppers you'd better get back in the game. The helicopters in BF2 are a game in themselves. Sometimes I'll join an empty server just to fly them.

Passenger only IIRC. Most people run to them like bats out of hell, so I rarely had a chance to play with them.

If they are as difficult as the planes though I'm not really interested.

Is this game widescreen capable yet or do I still have to hack it? Maybe I'll re-install for a bit, if they have fixed the widescreen and some of the other junk.

KT

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Originally posted by: Perry404

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Originally posted by: Perry404

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Originally posted by: TehMac

Originally posted by: KeithTalentPS: I would take Halo 1 for PC over BF2 in a heartbeat, since I actually had fun playing that game.

In this instance, sounds like you didn't know how to play Bf2.

Hmm, run, shoot, kill (sometimes)...what else is there to know exactly?

KT

Are you sure you've played BF2? Don't forget "Drive" & "Fly".

Yeah, I have driven most the vehicles around, but I can't fly the planes very well at all. I always end up crashing in the water, though crashing the planes is one of the most fun parts of the game for me. Actually, now that I think of it I didn't mind driving the boats either, but once I got to land it was all downhill.

KT

Well if you haven't tried the choppers you'd better get back in the game. The helicopters in BF2 are a game in themselves. Sometimes I'll join an empty server just to fly them.

Passenger only IIRC. Most people run to them like bats out of hell, so I rarely had a chance to play with them.

If they are as difficult as the planes though I'm not really interested.

Is this game widescreen capable yet or do I still have to hack it? Maybe I'll re-install for a bit, if they have fixed the widescreen and some of the other junk.

KT

hellos are 100x harder than planes.

 

[EvilComputer92]

There are 4 guns to learn per class (not counting pistols / etc), all with different accuracies. There are at least 4 different helicopters, and while the chineese and cobra fly similar, they all need to be learned differently.

The PKM was superior to any other gun as far as I can remember. Not to mention that you need to pay EA $10 to get special forces and use some of the best weapons in the game like the L96A1, F2000, and G36E.

People don't become good medics over night.

It's not that hard to bunny hop while reviving a person multiple times.

You need to learn how to fly jets, and I don't know the intricacies of any of the jets at all since I never used them.

Not really. Once you get the general controls of the jet, you can nearly bomb spawn points forever until the enemy jets get you. The only real anti air in the game is your own jets.

How to use C4 as a spec ops

For example, strapping it onto a jeep and ramming into tanks and apcs. Otherwise known as jihad jeeping.

Any retard can drive a tank, but it requires some intelligence to drive one properly and use it as effective support fire that it is supposed to be used for.

Effective support fire? In other words, spawn camping. On the street near the hotel spawn point on Karkand was where tanks and apcs would always camp at. The only way to get the person was to use the jihad jeep tactic. Which actually was the best method for taking out enemy armor.

You need to learn how to effectively setup mine traps as an engineer

Which would be that you run right in front of the enemy tank as it's approaching, drop a mine or two while bunny hopping, and hope that the machine gun on the tank doesn't hit you while you run away.

You need to learn how to command the battlefield using a unique interface and when and where to drop artillery strikes

Except some absolute idiot would always end up getting chosen as commander and would order artillery strikes on his own team's spawns. Not to mention you wouldn't usually have artillery in the first place because the enemy commander ordered vehicle drops on top of your artillery units.

 

[DannyLove]

There are 4 guns to learn per class (not counting pistols / etc), all with different accuracies. There are at least 4 different helicopters, and while the chineese and cobra fly similar, they all need to be learned differently.

The PKM was superior to any other gun as far as I can remember. Not to mention that you need to pay EA $10 to get special forces and use some of the best weapons in the game like the L96A1, F2000, and G36E.

PKM is superior but not godly against all forms of weapons. PKM is the best support weapon, wasn't the best when rounding a corner and you run into my knife. Gun balance is a whole other subject, each having its roles, but one weapon didn't own all, get that right. Oh and $10, big f'ing deal. $10 for a great expansion game with great maps, AND great weapons that will port over to BF2... you're telling me that is too much? seriously now.

People don't become good medics over night.

It's not that hard to bunny hop while reviving a person multiple times.

Bunny hop, this fool.... it takes a medic to keep your squad alive, let alone still provide support with the great G36E weapon. trust me, I've played with medics all the time and in many cases suck and can't revive, especially squad leaders who are essential to capturing and keeping the pressure. I've played this class the majority of the time, its just a shame you've probably never had the luxury of playing with a damn great medic that would keep your killeath ratio high up there, AND revive your squad leader to make sure you get those cap points

You need to learn how to fly jets, and I don't know the intricacies of any of the jets at all since I never used them.

Not really. Once you get the general controls of the jet, you can nearly bomb spawn points forever until the enemy jets get you. The only real anti air in the game is your own jets.

wrong. its not easy, and i've played it for hours to try and master it without a joystick. Bombing may seem easy but its the release point with the right angle that is difficult. Only reason you get owned in them is cause these people did that from day 1 and mastered it, just like any other aspect of the game.

How to use C4 as a spec ops

For example, strapping it onto a jeep and ramming into tanks and apcs. Otherwise known as jihad jeeping.

Thats certainly one way of doing it, rather lame and totally agree with you on this one, but I don't see it 24/7. Using it and trying to kill a tank while he's all around isn't easy. It takes 2 C4 and those few seconds the tank can kill you once he knows you're there.

Any retard can drive a tank, but it requires some intelligence to drive one properly and use it as effective support fire that it is supposed to be used for.

Effective support fire? In other words, spawn camping. On the street near the hotel spawn point on Karkand was where tanks and apcs would always camp at. The only way to get the person was to use the jihad jeep tactic. Which actually was the best method for taking out enemy armor.

man, all these BF2 haters, its hilarious. Because you simply didn't learn to adapt.. umm, hello, anti-tank? Try switching up your kits according to the situation, be an all-around player not just support giving away ammo. Is it really that difficult to shoot a tank with AT? absolutely not. In Karkland of all places, apc and tanks don't last long, its urban and you'll eventually get capped once you're spotted. You apparently play with n00bs

You need to learn how to effectively setup mine traps as an engineer

Which would be that you run right in front of the enemy tank as it's approaching, drop a mine or two while bunny hopping, and hope that the machine gun on the tank doesn't hit you while you run away.

WRONG. putting mines in specific blind corners, or major areas of the road. Last resort would be to run up and place it around an active tank, that is of course if that tank driver hasn't seen you, since he's a n00b, but it happens.

You need to learn how to command the battlefield using a unique interface and when and where to drop artillery strikes

Ecept some absolute idiot would always end up getting chosen as commander and would order artillery strikes on his own team's spawns. Not to mention you wouldn't usually have artillery in the first place because the enemy commander ordered vehicle drops on top of your artillery units.

Again, you must play with n00bs. You'll get occasional idiot commanders, ill give you that, but ive played with great ones, sending arty at perfect times, its not that easy given the time it takes from ordering it, anything can happen. capture points can switch. Vehicle drops on arty? and what does that do... doesn't do anything. You should be worried about Spec Ops blowing it up, not a jeep.


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This subject and these insane reasonings is becoming more and more evident that the BF2 haters, are either a) simply n00bs b) newbs constantly getting owned that couldn't adapt c) played for a total of a day and shelved it, or d) played with their newb friends and decided to quit and go to WoW...
obviously this type of game is not suited for your skills, instead of giving retarded bias comments and opinions, pick up COD4 where anyone can win running and shooting like an idiot.

 

[videogames101]

I can confirm, bad company is not BF3.

 

[TehMac]

Yes, BF3 IS NOT Bad Company.

 

[JBT]

BF2 was a great game. I didn't like 2142 at all though. I don't think this is BF3... though.

 

[Schadenfroh]

AFAIK, this is a PS3 / 360 title, moving it to the console forums. PM me if I have made a mistake and it will be on the PC.

 

[Modeps]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
AFAIK, this is a PS3 / 360 title, moving it to the console forums. PM me if I have made a mistake and it will be on the PC.

We've already got a thread about it.
http://forums.anandtech.com/me...y&keyword1=bad+company