Battlefield 2 Memory Usage *Results Updated*

[CHOPPER GOD]

Originally posted by: sapiens74
After adding 1gb ram and another 7800GTX it runs smooth as silk,

If I could just figure out how to fly the damn helicopter lol

ANOTHER 7800! wow Awesome

 

[Acanthus]

Doing some testing with memory usage in the full game today.

 

[suklee]

I'm currently running a 2x512MB GEIL PC3500 CL2 kit, with AXP2500+/Shuttle SN45G/Radeon 9800 Pro.

Since others have commented that 1.5GB is sufficient for BF2, should I just cheap it and buy a stick of Corsair 1GB VS1GB400C3 to run with 1x512 of my GEIL? Will I have any problems?

Choice 1. spend $100 on 1GB Corsair Value to run with my 512MB Geil
Choice 2. spend $200 on 2GB Corsair Value
Choice 3. spend $300 on TWINX2048-3200C2 2G Ram (1GX2)

what should I do?

 

[CHOPPER GOD]

Originally posted by: Kai920
I'm currently running a 2x512MB GEIL PC3500 CL2 kit, with AXP2500+/Shuttle SN45G/Radeon 9800 Pro.

Since others have commented that 1.5GB is sufficient for BF2, should I just cheap it and buy a stick of Corsair 1GB VS1GB400C3 to run with 1x512 of my GEIL? Will I have any problems?

Choice 1. spend $100 on 1GB Corsair Value to run with my 512MB Geil
Choice 2. spend $200 on 2GB Corsair Value
Choice 3. spend $300 on TWINX2048-3200C2 2G Ram (1GX2)

what should I do?

Well I would borrow some ram from somebody to see if your mobo has problems running mixed sticks/speeds. You most likely have to switch to 2T which is no biggy on AMD64 systems. If all is fine, I'd go with the cheapest solution to get you to 1.5 gigs.

 

[suklee]

Thanks C.G., but I don't have a AMD64 system Only Athlon XP...

Last night I clocked the RAM to 213MHz FSB (426DDR) @2.5-3-3-11. Not sure if the timings I've selected are optimal.

I may just take the plunge with 2GB of Corsair Value to see if it helps with in-game stuttering, such as entering/exiting vehicles, AA guns, etc. I know it'll help with load times but won't drastically affect FPS.

 

[p3r2y]

I have one gig of ram and get horrible stuttering the first few minutes of gameplay, on the retail version. I find this a shame because I have an 4000+ @ 2.7 ghz, 7800gtx, and an audigy 2 zs

 

[Killrose]

i'm still playing the demo with only 512mb, and it is not that bad once I die then respawn. I find it rediculous to have to have 1.5-2gigs of mem just to play this game.

Is the full retail game performance the same as the demo or worse?

 

[CHOPPER GOD]

Originally posted by: Killrose
i'm still playing the demo with only 512mb, and it is not that bad once I die then respawn. I find it rediculous to have to have 1.5-2gigs of mem just to play this game.

Is the full retail game performance the same as the demo or worse?

Ima say full game on a 64 player large map will be horrible for you to play. I couldn't understand it. I had 28 ping on this one server and Horrendous glitching when loading in. Flying a plane was a joke..Id wake up in the ground. It was very frustrating. I thought I had a good comp which I built just for this game. Then I saw this thread.
When I first saw this thread I had 1 gig corsair. withen 5 minutes or reading it, I was on newegg getting another gig for 79$. I figured, "whats the worst that can happen....I'll have 2gigs and be cool. Waiting for the 4 day delivery, I ran tests and noticed just like the thread says, my swap file was hitting like 1.2 gigs. I noticed that everytime I felt I was 'lagging', my hardrive light was on. I then began to recognize and realize this feeling from the FIRST time this happened, and that was with DESERT COMBAT and having 512 and everybody bitching about going to an unbelieveable..1gig of ram, and how video games should not require that much. Ram cost ALOT more back then so there was 'kinda' a legitamite bitch back then...but not now. Face it one day, video games WILL NEED 4 gigs of ram and a nVidia 10000 512mb card one day...and we can all bitch again then.

I borrowed a 512 stick and had 1.5 total and I was like OMFG! YES ! ! ! i NEVER hitch anymore. I can alt-tab out of the game. My menu was more responsive before the 1.01 patch. I never swap to the hardrive at all now....then MY 2 gigs came in the mail and here I am , preaching 2 gigs...its really 1.5 but 2 gigs is more feasable and realistic with most motherboards. There are ppl who swear thier system is fine with 1 gig, but ive noticed they have 6800gt's with either 128 or 256 ram cards. As for framerate, I never test because I don't need to. Once you accept the fact that human eye sees fluid motion after 30 fps, thats all that matters. 90fps....31 fps....looks the same. There is a reason movies and TV have such low fps and thats because its all you need. You can waste alot of time comparing framerates, when all that really matters to me as a gamer is...," Does it look like sh!t?"
To reject the facts and refuse change merley based upon stubborness and deny yourself a smooth as glass game with a 128mb 6600gt (see sig) for what most likely is a 82$ upgrade online (newegg) including shipping...to not go out to a bar 2 nights this month and blow 80$ anyway-----THAT...my friend.....is ridiculous...

 

[suklee]

I've decided to go with "Choice 2" and get the 2GB Value Select. Sort of a temporary measure until I upgrade to a SN95G5 or SN25P...

 

[Acanthus]

Argh although ive planned on doing testing recently, it appears that EA sucks yet again.

Every time i connect to a server within seconds i get "there is a problem with your connection" and disconnected. I played the game fine before i did a format this weekend, i formatted, reinstalled all drivers, installed the game, played single player, went online... every server does this...

Anyone know of a fix? It makes no friggin sense that this would happen on the same hardware after a clean format

 

[boutrousboutrous]

Originally posted by: Killrose
i'm still playing the demo with only 512mb, and it is not that bad once I die then respawn. I find it rediculous to have to have 1.5-2gigs of mem just to play this game.

Is the full retail game performance the same as the demo or worse?

Let's just be clear - you don't -need- more than a gig to play the game. In fact, you don't even need a gig. One of my buddies is playing quite well with 768mb of ram on a 2600+ with a Radeon 9800. He's playing at 1024x768, I think, on medium settings with dynamic lighting and shadows turned off (and no AA). These were the maximum settings that we could squeeze out while remaining playable. As has been said before, shut off dynamic lighting unless you've got a really hot setup.

Until I upgraded recently, I was playing on a 2800+ with a gig of ram and an fx5900. I played with the same settings as my friend, and load times weren't substantially different (I'd usually enter a map before him, but not by much).

 

[Acanthus]

It appears whatever was wrong yesterday has fixed itself overnight, maybe i had a routing problem from my DSLAM or something retarded. Results coming.

 

[Acanthus]

Retail game memory usage results in for 5 maps, all maps have at least 60 players in game.

 

[suklee]

Acanthus and others: I can run 1024x768 on medium settings, 2xAA without problems. But turning it up to 4xAA is no go - I get bad hiccups and "skipping" when entering tanks, vehicles, and just running around in general.

Will additional RAM allow me to go to 4xAA, or am I bottlenecked by my Radeon 9800pro? I'm not concerned about load times/exit times, just want to get rid of the "skipping" and "hitching" when playing.

 

[mflacy]

Originally posted by: Kai920
Acanthus and others: I can run 1024x768 on medium settings, 2xAA without problems. But turning it up to 4xAA is no go - I get bad hiccups and "skipping" when entering tanks, vehicles, and just running around in general.

Will additional RAM allow me to go to 4xAA, or am I bottlenecked by my Radeon 9800pro? I'm not concerned about load times/exit times, just want to get rid of the "skipping" and "hitching" when playing.

I have a 128 mg 9800 pro with a gig of RAM with a Raptor HD; (rest of the specs in sig). I run it at medium settings at 1600 by 1200 4xAA. I don't have any hiccups or skipping.

I did use this guide to prepare my computer before installing B2. It included a defrag, new page file, registry cleaning, Boot optimization, CCleaner, and several TweakUI changes.

If I go to 1.5 or 2 gig, it will be to reduce load times. I'm happy with my performance.

 

[suklee]

Actually, I just tested out 2xAA and got FPS of about 50-90, however whenever I am in a vehicle I get terrible hitching and skipping... now I definitely could use more RAM right?

mflacy - how many frames are you getting at 16x12, and what are your shadow/lighting options set at?

 

[mflacy]

Originally posted by: Kai920
Actually, I just tested out 2xAA and got FPS of about 50-90, however whenever I am in a vehicle I get terrible hitching and skipping... now I definitely could use more RAM right?

mflacy - how many frames are you getting at 16x12, and what are your shadow/lighting options set at?

No idea on the frames. I can check when I get home, but it seems smooth enough for me. If I had to guess, it's in the 30-40 range. I think shadows may be turned off. Not sure about the lighting.

 

[suklee]

Please do, I would be interested in what your frames are, as well as your settings.

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: mflacy

Originally posted by: Kai920
Acanthus and others: I can run 1024x768 on medium settings, 2xAA without problems. But turning it up to 4xAA is no go - I get bad hiccups and "skipping" when entering tanks, vehicles, and just running around in general.

Will additional RAM allow me to go to 4xAA, or am I bottlenecked by my Radeon 9800pro? I'm not concerned about load times/exit times, just want to get rid of the "skipping" and "hitching" when playing.

I have a 128 mg 9800 pro with a gig of RAM with a Raptor HD; (rest of the specs in sig). I run it at medium settings at 1600 by 1200 4xAA. I don't have any hiccups or skipping.

I did use this guide to prepare my computer before installing B2. It included a defrag, new page file, registry cleaning, Boot optimization, CCleaner, and several TweakUI changes.

If I go to 1.5 or 2 gig, it will be to reduce load times. I'm happy with my performance.

The keys to decreasing memory usage are reducing the texture quality, using "medium" sound quality, and disabling dynamic lighting and shadows.

When im playing competitively and not just looking at pretty graphics i play at 1600x1200, No AA, Shadows disabled, Dynamic lighting disabled, Medium sound quality, medium filtering (aniso), and the rest set to "high". It still pushes over the 1 gig mark, but my frames increase literally around 45%.

When im playing smaller servers (~20 players or less) or single player, i play with everything cranked including AA, and it runs fine.

The texture quality setting seems to effect memory usage the most, medium uses far less than high.

 

[grooblext]

I run BF2 on all the lowest settings on my FX 5200, 512mb ram, 2600+ processor and it runs as smooth as an androids bottom.

Just yesterday i got a Purple Heart medal.

My 3dmark05 score is 152.

Great game and i really enjoy it, but the jets are tough to fly.

 

[Ackmed]

My second gig of ram is on the truck.. should be here in a few hours.

 

[suklee]

Originally posted by: Ackmed
My second gig of ram is on the truck.. should be here in a few hours.

Just got my one gig of Corsair VS, will update with results soon.

 

[TGS]

Originally posted by: CHOPPER GOD
Once you accept the fact that human eye sees fluid motion after 30 fps, thats all that matters. 90fps....31 fps....looks the same. There is a reason movies and TV have such low fps and thats because its all you need.

You do realize that computers and television/movie motion are created differently?

Computers are required to discretely draw each frame for the perception of fluid motion. Whereas Television and movies use interlacing, and motion blur techniques to trick the eye into believe the images have fluidity to them.

If you were to pause a high motion movie segment, there is a large chance that the picture will appear blurred, as it is one of the effects they can use in a linear image set. Computers cannot do this as the image is very much dynamic and you cannot predict where the screen will be turning towards.

Here, is an old article about this.

 

[Randum]

the eye can only notice so high FPS regardless of what you all say!

anyhow, I got my 2nd gig of ram, pc3200, running at 440mhz, dual channel i have 4 sticks of GEIL 512mb

Runs MUCH BETTER I need to get numbers by my stagger is gone, as well as the 1min to have it run smooth.

I am SUPER anal about FPS and I definitley notice a difference.

 

[mwmorph]

Originally posted by: TGS

Originally posted by: CHOPPER GOD
Once you accept the fact that human eye sees fluid motion after 30 fps, thats all that matters. 90fps....31 fps....looks the same. There is a reason movies and TV have such low fps and thats because its all you need.

You do realize that computers and television/movie motion are created differently?

Computers are required to discretely draw each frame for the perception of fluid motion. Whereas Television and movies use interlacing, and motion blur techniques to trick the eye into believe the images have fluidity to them.

If you were to pause a high motion movie segment, there is a large chance that the picture will appear blurred, as it is one of the effects they can use in a linear image set. Computers cannot do this as the image is very much dynamic and you cannot predict where the screen will be turning towards.

Here, is an old article about this.

really though, how much processing power would it take to make pc screens blur? take the difference of frame 1 and the frame before it, determine movement and blur a bit for it.

im sure some programmer can do it.