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Originally posted by: AlienCraft

Never buy batteries from a card display in a conveience store. They may be YEARS out of date. Batteries that are exposed to the sun (heating /cooling cycles) are more prone to premature death.
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Batteries last years, and when my dad owned a convenience store, 90% of the batteries he sold in a year were sold on Christmas Day... there was no chance the batteries he sold were more than a year old (so they were never out of date).
 
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: AlienCraft

Never buy batteries from a card display in a conveience store. They may be YEARS out of date. Batteries that are exposed to the sun (heating /cooling cycles) are more prone to premature death.
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Batteries last years, and when my dad owned a convenience store, 90% of the batteries he sold in a year were sold on Christmas Day... there was no chance the batteries he sold were more than a year old (so they were never out of date).
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Well, good for him.
MY EXPERIENCE however is vastly different. I have bought cards of 9 volts from 7-11's , liquor store and other convenience markets all over the country and MOST of them died within an hour or two of being opened. The typical use for me were in guitar stomp boxes and wireless transmitters and Guitar tuners and RatShack SPL meters. NOT really high current devices, although one stomp box in particular was my canary in a coal mine. If it's output was crunchy (distorted) the battery was below 8.7 / 8.5 volts.
Batteries ONLY "last years" when the environment is stable. IF YOU'll put your reading hat on and take off the "defense of Dad" one, you'll see where I say "exposed to sun (heating /cooling cycles) leads to premature death". Heat and cold are damaging to the natural operation of batteries, ANY battery.

BTW, in one example from 2003, I was at a small 4th of July Festival at a town up the river from Portland and the batteries that were purchased at the local convenience store were dated 1998. Not manufactured in but "use By".
 
Originally posted by: Ornery
Originally posted by: montag451

Rechargeables 99% of the time...
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No shlt. I can't believe nitwits still waste money on disposables, except for TV remotes and such. BatterySpace & Thomas Distributing comes to mind.
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TV remotes are the perfect Mission NOT Critical Application for rechargeables.
Putting them in an Artists IEM's or Wireless mic is just asking for a bus ticket home before the next show.
Job security > Ecology as far as the Entertainment Business is concerned.

 
Originally posted by: Sphexi
No. Fresh batteries are the best, you won't see much of a difference in performance between Duracell/Energizer/Whatever. I buy bulk at Costco usually, they work great.

But, once you get to higher end batteries, stick to good ones. I put 4 e3 Lithium Energizers in my Canon A95 back in JUNE, and I've taken at least 750 pictures since then, they're still going. Amazing life on those things.
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They cost the same as nimh, which will last for decades most likely.
 
My brother did a science experiment in like 4th grade that was about batteries. Duracell outlasted Energizer and Rayovac batteries easily. He tested several flashlights and other thing with AAA, AA, C, D, and 9V batteries. Duracell won every one.
 
I used to buy Rayovac that lasted just as long as Energizer and Duracell but nowadays I just get the cheap Dynex batteries with my discount.
 
Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Rechargeable... Alkalines = throwing money away and putting toxic chemicals in landfills.
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Putting them (rechargeables) in an Artists IEM's or Wireless mic is just asking for a bus ticket home before the next show.
Job security > Ecology as far as the Entertainment Business is concerned.

These are people whose performance actually does hinge on a $4.00 item. Since they have the $$ to spend on anything, why else would they NOT be using Rechargeables ?

Back in 97, before Journey reformed and went on tour, I did extensive testing of various batteries trying to find which rechargeable we could use and not spend a bunch of money on what ends up being tossed at the end of each show. Rechargeables sucked, Duracell PRO's won.
BTW, we end up giving away the old batteries to the local crew so it's not like we were being totally negligent about them.
 
Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: TwiceOver
Rechargeables. They do the job and never really worry about running out at an inopportune time.
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Assuming that you have more then 1 set, and that you actually recharged the other ones, and that you brought them with you.
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I can wait an hour while the set of batteries recharge...

I'm not in THAT much of a hurry, I can miss the use of the camera for an hour.
 
Originally posted by: AlienCraft

TV remotes are the perfect Mission NOT Critical Application for rechargeable.
Putting them in an Artists IEM's or Wireless mic is just asking for a bus ticket home before the next show.
Job security > Ecology as far as the Entertainment Business is concerned.
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I don't give a flying fvck who use any particular battery for any application. No concern for ecology to speak of. I'm ONLY concerned with bang for the buck, and for most applications, rechargeable are the cheapest way to go in the long run. I can get a set of alkaline batteries to last years in a TV remote. Rechargeable would be a pain in the ass to use for that application, because they would need to be charged several times over those years.
Originally posted by: SuperSix

I can wait an hour while the set of batteries recharge...

I'm not in THAT much of a hurry, I can miss the use of the camera for an hour.
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2300mAh NiMH Rechargeable Batteries for a buck each! WTF would anybody try to get by with just a couple sets? 😕
 
i use duracell for the smoke/co2 detector. i figure its less likely to leak or go bad like a generic might. unscientific but the ones that end up leaking for me have been generics

nimh ftw anyways these days... so cheap per charge and last so much better in high drain devices that there is no real reason to use anything else
 
Duracells for the win....specially the duracell ultra M3's those things actually made my minidisc player last a hell of lot longer than the manual said it would
 
Originally posted by: OulOat
In the US I don't notice a difference, but once you get out to Asian countries I would only buy name brand batteries. The cheaper generics are really bad there, lasting about 1/4 the time that duracell will last.
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you tell me, the dang generics in Taiwan is not worth it's weight in coins. being a cheapass, i thought the panasonic national brand would be good for my digital camera... not even one picture. i guess the battery was old. i end up spending a bit more for the name brand. works like a charm.
 
Originally posted by: AlienCraft
Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Rechargeable... Alkalines = throwing money away and putting toxic chemicals in landfills.
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Putting them (rechargeables) in an Artists IEM's or Wireless mic is just asking for a bus ticket home before the next show.
Job security > Ecology as far as the Entertainment Business is concerned.

These are people whose performance actually does hinge on a $4.00 item. Since they have the $$ to spend on anything, why else would they NOT be using Rechargeables ?

Back in 97, before Journey reformed and went on tour, I did extensive testing of various batteries trying to find which rechargeable we could use and not spend a bunch of money on what ends up being tossed at the end of each show. Rechargeables sucked, Duracell PRO's won.
BTW, we end up giving away the old batteries to the local crew so it's not like we were being totally negligent about them.
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You are comparing rechargeables from 1997 to the ones of today? Change your lion to a scarecrow.
 
Duracell makes the longest lasting alkalines, Panasonic is also very good.
Radio shack NiMH rechargables are what I use for most things though.
 
Originally posted by: TheSlamma
Originally posted by: AlienCraft
Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Rechargeable... Alkalines = throwing money away and putting toxic chemicals in landfills.
Click to expand...

Putting them (rechargeables) in an Artists IEM's or Wireless mic is just asking for a bus ticket home before the next show.
Job security > Ecology as far as the Entertainment Business is concerned.

These are people whose performance actually does hinge on a $4.00 item. Since they have the $$ to spend on anything, why else would they NOT be using Rechargeables ?

Back in 97, before Journey reformed and went on tour, I did extensive testing of various batteries trying to find which rechargeable we could use and not spend a bunch of money on what ends up being tossed at the end of each show. Rechargeables sucked, Duracell PRO's won.
BTW, we end up giving away the old batteries to the local crew so it's not like we were being totally negligent about them.
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You are comparing rechargeables from 1997 to the ones of today? Change your lion to a scarecrow.
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Please reference the OP as requoted here for your convenience...
In your expereience, are brand name batteries (duracell/engergizer) better than off brand batteries?

which do you use?
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Why? They haven't changed markedly since then. I stated what I had personally tested as my main point of view. Then, I stated what I know to be true froma professional audio business point of view. Your assumption that I'm only referencing data from 1997 shows more about your mad comprehension skilz and respect of the scientific methodology used to produce that data than it does about the quality of the data.
Since CLAIR BROTHERS audio isn't using rechargeavbles in the artist's IEM's and Wireless Transmitters TODAY, that pretty much tells you that the battery technology hasn't improved enough to put them in Mission Critical environments.
Your mileage may vary. But if your job depends on it, I wouldn't gamble with a rechargeable, even if I had your job.
Making a smarmy comment about your avatar would surely catch me a vacation from here. I'll just say "typical Know - it -all, Can't extrapolate from evidence, Teenager."

BTW, I didn't say I never use them, just not in mission critical environs.
 
Originally posted by: Ornery
Originally posted by: AlienCraft

TV remotes are the perfect Mission NOT Critical Application for rechargeable.
Putting them in an Artists IEM's or Wireless mic is just asking for a bus ticket home before the next show.
Job security > Ecology as far as the Entertainment Business is concerned.
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I don't give a flying fvck who use any particular battery for any application. No concern for ecology to speak of. I'm ONLY concerned with bang for the buck, and for most applications, rechargeable are the cheapest way to go in the long run. I can get a set of alkaline batteries to last years in a TV remote. Rechargeable would be a pain in the ass to use for that application, because they would need to be charged several times over those years.
Originally posted by: SuperSix

I can wait an hour while the set of batteries recharge...

I'm not in THAT much of a hurry, I can miss the use of the camera for an hour.
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Well good for you and your TV set. As for WHY rechargeables aren't used in the Music Business, I can just hear you saying "WTF" when your favorite artist needs to change out a mic because it craps out during a song. I'm sure you wouldn't care about the ecology then. Say how's biking to work going for you? Did you properly recycle that old 13" CRT Monitor? Have you insulated all the pipes and added a solar system to your Hot water supply?
Until you move out of your glass house, you really should carefully consider all the ramifications of casting stones at another.
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