Batteries Can Pose Fire Risk to Planes

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IGBT

Lifer
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Originally posted by: MS Dawn
Originally posted by: AgaBoogaBoo
Soon enough, chewing gum will be banned too.

Funny this is mentioned because smokers that carry chewing gum stand out. Why? They'll chew the gum briefly and use it to seal off a lavatory smoke detector so they can smoke in the john. :Q If the detector is twisted out of the socket a trouble indicator will illuminate in the cockpit and trouble it is - for the people in the john! :laugh:

Li poly cells, while very efficient at storage and delivery of energy that our ever more compact devices we carry depend on, are safe for the most part. Problem is when a fault occurs and it goes up in flames you have a good chance of igniting a small class D fire. All fires are bad, class D fires are worse and one with limited amount of breathable O2 at 38,000 feet can be tragic. Even though a limited amount of class D fuel is available, expulsion of nasty compounds that can create severe respiratory distress is likely. If this should happen at the time of deployment of oxygen masks, the results could be disastrous.

Enforcing this rule will be difficult no doubt. Hopefully this investigation takes time because in this time better cells will be made along with improved ancillary safeguards to prevent accidents. :)

Originally posted by: IGBT

..I can see it now. Plastic bins full confiscated of laptop batts at the airpot.


That would be great and even inviting to all the battery geeks - lots of goodies run on 18650's. The 2.5 Ah variety are of particular use. ;)

..saw a report on TV about all the stuff collected at the airport. Numerous plastic bin boxes full of nail clippers..pocket knives you name it. They also had a bin box full of hammers. So who/why are so many people showing up to the airport with a hammer?? :confused:

 

Rubycon

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Aug 10, 2005
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Originally posted by: IGBT
...> They also had a bin box full of hammers. So who/why are so many people showing up to the airport with a hammer?? :confused:

Hammers are magnetic! Hence Maxwell's law.

uh oh!

:music:
Joan was quizzical; studied metaphysical
Science in the home.
Late nights all alone with a test tube.
Oh, oh, oh, oh.

Maxwell Edison, majoring in medicine,
Calls her on the phone.
"Can I take you out to the pictures,
Joa, oa, oa, oan?"

But as she's getting ready to go,
A knock comes on the door.

Bang! Bang! Maxwell's silver hammer
Came down upon her head.
Bang Bang Maxwell's silver hammer
Made sure that she was dead.

Back in school again Maxwell plays the fool again.
Teacher gets annoyed.
Wishing to avoid an unpleasant
Sce, e, e, ene,

She tells Max to stay when the class has gone away,
So he waits behind
Writing fifty times "I must not be
So, o, o, o.."

But when she turns her back on the boy,
He creeps up from behind.

Bang! Bang! Maxwell's silver hammer
Came down upon her head.
Bang! Bang! Maxwell's silver hammer
Made sure that she was dead.

P. C. Thirty-one said, "We caught a dirty one."
Maxwell stands alone
Painting testimonial pictures.
Oh, oh, oh, oh.

Rose and Valerie, screaming from the gallery
Say he must go free
(Maxwell must go free)
The judge does not agree and he tells them
So, o, o, o.

But as the words are leaving his lips,
A noise comes from behind.

Bang! Bang! Maxwell's silver hammer
Came down upon his head.
Bang!Bang! Maxwell's silver hammer
Made sure that he was dead.

Whoa, oh, oh Silver hammer, yeah

:music:

I like the Beatles. :D
 

feralkid

Lifer
Jan 28, 2002
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Originally posted by: IGBT
Originally posted by: MS Dawn
Originally posted by: AgaBoogaBoo
Soon enough, chewing gum will be banned too.

Funny this is mentioned because smokers that carry chewing gum stand out. Why? They'll chew the gum briefly and use it to seal off a lavatory smoke detector so they can smoke in the john. :Q If the detector is twisted out of the socket a trouble indicator will illuminate in the cockpit and trouble it is - for the people in the john! :laugh:

Li poly cells, while very efficient at storage and delivery of energy that our ever more compact devices we carry depend on, are safe for the most part. Problem is when a fault occurs and it goes up in flames you have a good chance of igniting a small class D fire. All fires are bad, class D fires are worse and one with limited amount of breathable O2 at 38,000 feet can be tragic. Even though a limited amount of class D fuel is available, expulsion of nasty compounds that can create severe respiratory distress is likely. If this should happen at the time of deployment of oxygen masks, the results could be disastrous.

Enforcing this rule will be difficult no doubt. Hopefully this investigation takes time because in this time better cells will be made along with improved ancillary safeguards to prevent accidents. :)

Originally posted by: IGBT

..I can see it now. Plastic bins full confiscated of laptop batts at the airpot.


That would be great and even inviting to all the battery geeks - lots of goodies run on 18650's. The 2.5 Ah variety are of particular use. ;)

..saw a report on TV about all the stuff collected at the airport. Numerous plastic bin boxes full of nail clippers..pocket knives you name it. They also had a bin box full of hammers. So who/why are so many people showing up to the airport with a hammer?? :confused:



To kill all the snakes.
 

AgaBoogaBoo

Lifer
Feb 16, 2003
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Originally posted by: MS Dawn
Originally posted by: AgaBoogaBoo
Soon enough, chewing gum will be banned too.

Funny this is mentioned because smokers that carry chewing gum stand out. Why? They'll chew the gum briefly and use it to seal off a lavatory smoke detector so they can smoke in the john. :Q If the detector is twisted out of the socket a trouble indicator will illuminate in the cockpit and trouble it is - for the people in the john! :laugh:
I actually heard about this from someone else and that's why I posted about chewing gum, it wasn't just a random thing I picked. I wonder if it's feasible enough for people to do... I don't know how much surface area they would have to actually cover.
 

Rubycon

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Originally posted by: AgaBoogaBoo

I actually heard about this from someone else and that's why I posted about chewing gum, it wasn't just a random thing I picked. I wonder if it's feasible enough for people to do... I wonder how much surface area they would have to actually cover.

I would imagine more than I would be willing to shove in my mouth. I don't particularly care for gum at all. That said, probably "major league pitcher" class. :Q

It's amazing what extremes people will go to in order to have a cancer stick. It pushes the envelope of sanity. :p
 

Leros

Lifer
Jul 11, 2004
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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: AgaBoogaBoo
Soon enough, chewing gum will be banned too.

Pretty soon ejaculating on the person next to you will be banned too. :|

But then what will I do during the flight?
 

ultimatebob

Lifer
Jul 1, 2001
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I can't wait until they make a movie out of this! Maybe they could call it "Laptops On A Plane"!

Man, I hope that Samuel Jackson is is available.
 

atomicacid55

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Originally posted by: ultimatebob
I can't wait until they make a movie out of this! Maybe they could call it "Laptops On A Plane"!

Man, I hope that Samuel Jackson is is available.

LoL. Terrorist smuggles 500 defective Dell laptops with Sony batteries in them? Geez, that's like a freaking bomb basically.

I mean seriously... coudn't you load like 20 laptops into your baggage? Ok, not 20, but maybe like 10 or so and be fine with weight. Carry 3 bags onto southwest and that's 30 bags.

So why are we banning liquids before we ban flaming laptops? Idiotic.
 

Sukhoi

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Dec 5, 1999
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Originally posted by: atomicacid55
Originally posted by: ultimatebob
I can't wait until they make a movie out of this! Maybe they could call it "Laptops On A Plane"!

Man, I hope that Samuel Jackson is is available.

LoL. Terrorist smuggles 500 defective Dell laptops with Sony batteries in them? Geez, that's like a freaking bomb basically.

I mean seriously... coudn't you load like 20 laptops into your baggage? Ok, not 20, but maybe like 10 or so and be fine with weight. Carry 3 bags onto southwest and that's 30 bags.

So why are we banning liquids before we ban flaming laptops? Idiotic.

Southwest multiplies bags by 10? Cool planes.

How about a couple women hijackers that hide composite knives in their vages? We might as well mandate cavity searches I suppose.