Barry Bonds out until atleast midseason, maybe all year

[HardcoreRobot]

when he does come back, he will be much lighter (and have a more likely excuse)

 

[MDE]

The 'roids do screw up your body...

 

[Argo]

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17

Originally posted by: BCYL

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17

Originally posted by: isasir

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17
Yeah, like even if any of you juiced up on steroids could still hit and play like he has...

Its like saying if Tiger Woods suddenly took steroids, its not like just because he could drive it farther that he'd necessarily be any better of a golfer.

And yes, this steroid talk is so old and nobody even cares anymore. I don't know why they focus on it so damn much on every sports thing.

So if he was so talented without steroids, which i don't deny, why bother taken them, uh, I mean flaxseed oil, at all?

Hell, pitchers have walked him so much the past few years, so he should've stopped taking them.

Agreed. Just making the point that he's not just some loser that wouldn't be anything without whatever it was that he took.

I don't think anyone doubts he has talent, but in some way that just made him all the worst when he decided to cheat...

Yeah, it has ruined the great accomplishments he's made. I just get sick of all these people who talk like he wouldn't have been anything without the "performance enhancers" that he used.

Then again, this is ATOT where little whiny 13 year olds like to comment on everything, so what am I to expect.

I don't think him taking steroids is the biggest problem here. Giambi took steroids yet I'm willing to forgive him. The problem with Barry is that he thinks he's better than anybody else and it's him against everyone else. He keeps whining after every little tough question asked by a reporter, as if other athletes don't get asked tough questions. He complains about every negative article about him. When steroids issue came up, instead of coming out and saying "guys I used steroids and I'm sorry" or "guys I didn't use steroids, this is all a lie" he starts b*tching and whinning about how media created this. He had a chance to go down as one of the most famous and loved players ever. Instead he'll be remembered as a jerk.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Argo

I don't think him taking steroids is the biggest problem here. Giambi took steroids yet I'm willing to forgive him. The problem with Barry is that he thinks he's better than anybody else and it's him against everyone else. He keeps whining after every little tough question asked by a reporter, as if other athletes don't get asked tough questions. He complains about every negative article about him. When steroids issue came up, instead of coming out and saying "guys I used steroids and I'm sorry" or "guys I didn't use steroids, this is all a lie" he starts b*tching and whinning about how media created this. He had a chance to go down as one of the most famous and loved players ever. Instead he'll be remembered as a jerk.

Hey Ted Williams was a Jerk when he played and people only remember his accomplishments. BTW, if it weren't for WWII and the Korean War it would be Williams that Bonds would be chasing for the HR record.

 

[Argo]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Argo

I don't think him taking steroids is the biggest problem here. Giambi took steroids yet I'm willing to forgive him. The problem with Barry is that he thinks he's better than anybody else and it's him against everyone else. He keeps whining after every little tough question asked by a reporter, as if other athletes don't get asked tough questions. He complains about every negative article about him. When steroids issue came up, instead of coming out and saying "guys I used steroids and I'm sorry" or "guys I didn't use steroids, this is all a lie" he starts b*tching and whinning about how media created this. He had a chance to go down as one of the most famous and loved players ever. Instead he'll be remembered as a jerk.

Hey Ted Williams was a Jerk when he played and people only remember his accomplishments. BTW, if it weren't for WWII and the Korean War it would be Williams that Bonds would be chasing for the HR record.

Where do you get the fact that Ted was a jerk? Everybody who met him says he was a very nice person. But again, it's not as much being a jerk, as constantly crying and accusing everybody. There were several jerks in baseball, Babe Ruth and Reggie good examples, but at least they never cried about unfair treatment.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Argo
Where do you get the fact that Ted was a jerk? Everybody who met him says he was a very nice person. But again, it's not as much being a jerk, as constantly crying and accusing everybody. There were several jerks in baseball, Babe Ruth and Reggie good examples, but at least they never cried about unfair treatment.

He was known for flipping off and spitting on fans. He wasn't in the same asshole status as Ty Cobb but he was a surly character.

BTW, I remember Reggie whining a lot when he played. He was usually whining about Charles Finely or George Stienbrener though. He also didnt get along with his fellow teamates like Greg Nettles(actually fought with him) Billy Martin (another jerk) and Thurman Munson.

 

[ohnnyj]

Go Padres!

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: ohnnyj
Go Padres!

LOL, maybe the scum Dodgers might have a chance this year.

 

[Stark]

and the giants still have to shell out $18 million

ha ha!

 

[aplefka]

Originally posted by: Xafgoat
Thanks barry for ruining untold number of fantasy seasons, mine included.

He was my second pick yesterday in my fourth and final draft. Funny thing is I almost didn't pick him but he was still there in the second round so I figured wtf. I didn't get him on any of my other teams so I figured I would for this one.

 

[Phokus]

fvck bonds, that cheating assholes has everything that's coming to him

 

[aplefka]

Originally posted by: jjsole
He acts like such a whining victim. He needs a tissue and a swift kick in the @ss. He put all of this upon himself and the least he could do is be a man about it and admit to his cheating and lying.

If you were in his position, I'm sure you'd probably get really fvcking sick of it too.

Has it even been proven that he shot up? The only thing I thought he admitted to was the cream.

Regardless, you're probably just another steroid bandwagon fan. All the people like you who say "Oh yeah, he used steroids, let's see him hit home runs now without them." and all the rest of that sh1t are morons. How do steroids help your hand-eye coordination? If anything, would it not slow them down? Learn a bit about the game first, then make your stupid comments.

 

[aplefka]

Originally posted by: Riceball
Blah, there goes the giant's season.

We'll see. They couldn't hit last year, even with Bonds getting walked all the time, so now they'll have it a bit tougher, but I think they're a better hitting team this year.

 

[SP33Demon]

The curse of the Babe has jumped from the BoSox to Sterroid Bonds. Hopefully he'll retire and end his career so we don't have to talk about this walking chemistry lab anymore...

 

[BCYL]

Originally posted by: Argo

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17

Originally posted by: BCYL

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17

Originally posted by: isasir

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17
Yeah, like even if any of you juiced up on steroids could still hit and play like he has...

Its like saying if Tiger Woods suddenly took steroids, its not like just because he could drive it farther that he'd necessarily be any better of a golfer.

And yes, this steroid talk is so old and nobody even cares anymore. I don't know why they focus on it so damn much on every sports thing.

So if he was so talented without steroids, which i don't deny, why bother taken them, uh, I mean flaxseed oil, at all?

Hell, pitchers have walked him so much the past few years, so he should've stopped taking them.

Agreed. Just making the point that he's not just some loser that wouldn't be anything without whatever it was that he took.

I don't think anyone doubts he has talent, but in some way that just made him all the worst when he decided to cheat...

Yeah, it has ruined the great accomplishments he's made. I just get sick of all these people who talk like he wouldn't have been anything without the "performance enhancers" that he used.

Then again, this is ATOT where little whiny 13 year olds like to comment on everything, so what am I to expect.

I don't think him taking steroids is the biggest problem here. Giambi took steroids yet I'm willing to forgive him. The problem with Barry is that he thinks he's better than anybody else and it's him against everyone else. He keeps whining after every little tough question asked by a reporter, as if other athletes don't get asked tough questions. He complains about every negative article about him. When steroids issue came up, instead of coming out and saying "guys I used steroids and I'm sorry" or "guys I didn't use steroids, this is all a lie" he starts b*tching and whinning about how media created this. He had a chance to go down as one of the most famous and loved players ever. Instead he'll be remembered as a jerk.

Actually the biggest problem I have with Bonds is that he always acts like he is better than everyone else. However it turns out he was cheating all along (we can't tell when he actually started taking steriods). This makes it impossible to tell what his natural ability is and how talented he is.

Yet he still acts like he is better than everyone else, even after he's caught cheating...

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: BCYL

Originally posted by: Argo

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17

Originally posted by: BCYL

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17

Originally posted by: isasir

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17
Yeah, like even if any of you juiced up on steroids could still hit and play like he has...

Its like saying if Tiger Woods suddenly took steroids, its not like just because he could drive it farther that he'd necessarily be any better of a golfer.

And yes, this steroid talk is so old and nobody even cares anymore. I don't know why they focus on it so damn much on every sports thing.

So if he was so talented without steroids, which i don't deny, why bother taken them, uh, I mean flaxseed oil, at all?

Hell, pitchers have walked him so much the past few years, so he should've stopped taking them.

Agreed. Just making the point that he's not just some loser that wouldn't be anything without whatever it was that he took.

I don't think anyone doubts he has talent, but in some way that just made him all the worst when he decided to cheat...

Yeah, it has ruined the great accomplishments he's made. I just get sick of all these people who talk like he wouldn't have been anything without the "performance enhancers" that he used.

Then again, this is ATOT where little whiny 13 year olds like to comment on everything, so what am I to expect.

I don't think him taking steroids is the biggest problem here. Giambi took steroids yet I'm willing to forgive him. The problem with Barry is that he thinks he's better than anybody else and it's him against everyone else. He keeps whining after every little tough question asked by a reporter, as if other athletes don't get asked tough questions. He complains about every negative article about him. When steroids issue came up, instead of coming out and saying "guys I used steroids and I'm sorry" or "guys I didn't use steroids, this is all a lie" he starts b*tching and whinning about how media created this. He had a chance to go down as one of the most famous and loved players ever. Instead he'll be remembered as a jerk.

Actually the biggest problem I have with Bonds is that he always acts like he is better than everyone else. However it turns out he was cheating all along (we can't tell when he actually started taking steriods). This makes it impossible to tell what his natural ability is and how talented he is.

Yet he still acts like he is better than everyone else, even after he's caught cheating...

When was he caught?

 

[TheNinja]

Originally posted by: aplefka

Originally posted by: jjsole
He acts like such a whining victim. He needs a tissue and a swift kick in the @ss. He put all of this upon himself and the least he could do is be a man about it and admit to his cheating and lying.

If you were in his position, I'm sure you'd probably get really fvcking sick of it too.

Has it even been proven that he shot up? The only thing I thought he admitted to was the cream.

Regardless, you're probably just another steroid bandwagon fan. All the people like you who say "Oh yeah, he used steroids, let's see him hit home runs now without them." and all the rest of that sh1t are morons. How do steroids help your hand-eye coordination? If anything, would it not slow them down? Learn a bit about the game first, then make your stupid comments.

I do agree it is getting unfair for everyone to cry "steroids" at every HR hitting player nowadays. But Bonds always thinks everyone is out to get him and his EGO is larger than his size 12 head! Sure, steroids may not help your hand-eye coordination, but it could give you a little more bat speed that turn foul balls into hits, and the little bit of extra power that turns fly ball outs into Home Runs. They all want a little edge over the competition. I don't know if he took them or not, but it seems VERY suspicious and if he wasn't such a jerk people wouldn't care as much imo.

 

[aplefka]

Originally posted by: BCYL

Originally posted by: Argo

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17

Originally posted by: BCYL

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17

Originally posted by: isasir

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17
Yeah, like even if any of you juiced up on steroids could still hit and play like he has...

Its like saying if Tiger Woods suddenly took steroids, its not like just because he could drive it farther that he'd necessarily be any better of a golfer.

And yes, this steroid talk is so old and nobody even cares anymore. I don't know why they focus on it so damn much on every sports thing.

So if he was so talented without steroids, which i don't deny, why bother taken them, uh, I mean flaxseed oil, at all?

Hell, pitchers have walked him so much the past few years, so he should've stopped taking them.

Agreed. Just making the point that he's not just some loser that wouldn't be anything without whatever it was that he took.

I don't think anyone doubts he has talent, but in some way that just made him all the worst when he decided to cheat...

Yeah, it has ruined the great accomplishments he's made. I just get sick of all these people who talk like he wouldn't have been anything without the "performance enhancers" that he used.

Then again, this is ATOT where little whiny 13 year olds like to comment on everything, so what am I to expect.

I don't think him taking steroids is the biggest problem here. Giambi took steroids yet I'm willing to forgive him. The problem with Barry is that he thinks he's better than anybody else and it's him against everyone else. He keeps whining after every little tough question asked by a reporter, as if other athletes don't get asked tough questions. He complains about every negative article about him. When steroids issue came up, instead of coming out and saying "guys I used steroids and I'm sorry" or "guys I didn't use steroids, this is all a lie" he starts b*tching and whinning about how media created this. He had a chance to go down as one of the most famous and loved players ever. Instead he'll be remembered as a jerk.

Actually the biggest problem I have with Bonds is that he always acts like he is better than everyone else. However it turns out he was cheating all along (we can't tell when he actually started taking steriods). This makes it impossible to tell what his natural ability is and how talented he is.

Yet he still acts like he is better than everyone else, even after he's caught cheating...

I hate to break it to you, but many people consider him to be the greatest baseball player ever. My coaches last year thought so, along with many other baseball fans.

I just think it's stupid when people say he sucks without steroids and other stupid things, because he's obviously talented. You can't just take steroids and have a good eye and be able to knock in 50+ home runs a season.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: HardcoreRobot
when he does come back, he will be much lighter (and have a more likely excuse)

Yup. You can't hold the same amount of muscle when your testosterone level goes down.

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: aplefka

Originally posted by: BCYL

Originally posted by: Argo

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17

Originally posted by: BCYL

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17

Originally posted by: isasir

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17
Yeah, like even if any of you juiced up on steroids could still hit and play like he has...

Its like saying if Tiger Woods suddenly took steroids, its not like just because he could drive it farther that he'd necessarily be any better of a golfer.

And yes, this steroid talk is so old and nobody even cares anymore. I don't know why they focus on it so damn much on every sports thing.

So if he was so talented without steroids, which i don't deny, why bother taken them, uh, I mean flaxseed oil, at all?

Hell, pitchers have walked him so much the past few years, so he should've stopped taking them.

Agreed. Just making the point that he's not just some loser that wouldn't be anything without whatever it was that he took.

I don't think anyone doubts he has talent, but in some way that just made him all the worst when he decided to cheat...

Yeah, it has ruined the great accomplishments he's made. I just get sick of all these people who talk like he wouldn't have been anything without the "performance enhancers" that he used.

Then again, this is ATOT where little whiny 13 year olds like to comment on everything, so what am I to expect.

I don't think him taking steroids is the biggest problem here. Giambi took steroids yet I'm willing to forgive him. The problem with Barry is that he thinks he's better than anybody else and it's him against everyone else. He keeps whining after every little tough question asked by a reporter, as if other athletes don't get asked tough questions. He complains about every negative article about him. When steroids issue came up, instead of coming out and saying "guys I used steroids and I'm sorry" or "guys I didn't use steroids, this is all a lie" he starts b*tching and whinning about how media created this. He had a chance to go down as one of the most famous and loved players ever. Instead he'll be remembered as a jerk.

Actually the biggest problem I have with Bonds is that he always acts like he is better than everyone else. However it turns out he was cheating all along (we can't tell when he actually started taking steriods). This makes it impossible to tell what his natural ability is and how talented he is.

Yet he still acts like he is better than everyone else, even after he's caught cheating...

I hate to break it to you, but many people consider him to be the greatest baseball player ever. My coaches last year thought so, along with many other baseball fans.

I just think it's stupid when people say he sucks without steroids and other stupid things, because he's obviously talented. You can't just take steroids and have a good eye and be able to knock in 50+ home runs a season.

Except his home run numbers exploded only after he started taking 'roids.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

I betcha that IF he is ever punished for steroids, they'll impose it retroactive to the start of spring training, and include the time he's out for medical reasons. MLB wants him back ASAP.

 

[aplefka]

Originally posted by: TheNinja

Originally posted by: aplefka

Originally posted by: jjsole
He acts like such a whining victim. He needs a tissue and a swift kick in the @ss. He put all of this upon himself and the least he could do is be a man about it and admit to his cheating and lying.

If you were in his position, I'm sure you'd probably get really fvcking sick of it too.

Has it even been proven that he shot up? The only thing I thought he admitted to was the cream.

Regardless, you're probably just another steroid bandwagon fan. All the people like you who say "Oh yeah, he used steroids, let's see him hit home runs now without them." and all the rest of that sh1t are morons. How do steroids help your hand-eye coordination? If anything, would it not slow them down? Learn a bit about the game first, then make your stupid comments.

I do agree it is getting unfair for everyone to cry "steroids" at every HR hitting player nowadays. But Bonds always thinks everyone is out to get him and his EGO is larger than his size 12 head! Sure, steroids may not help your hand-eye coordination, but it could give you a little more bat speed that turn foul balls into hits, and the little bit of extra power that turns fly ball outs into Home Runs. They all want a little edge over the competition. I don't know if he took them or not, but it seems VERY suspicious and if he wasn't such a jerk people wouldn't care as much imo.

Not only if he wasn't such a jerk, but if he wasn't so good. People just want a reason to bring him down because, let's face it, he's the best player there is today, and many argue the best ever.

I still disagree. How could it improve your bat speed at that point? All those guys are so ripped that adding anymore muscle to their upper body would just get in the way of their swing.

 

[aplefka]

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: aplefka

Originally posted by: BCYL

Originally posted by: Argo

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17

Originally posted by: BCYL

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17

Originally posted by: isasir

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17
Yeah, like even if any of you juiced up on steroids could still hit and play like he has...

Its like saying if Tiger Woods suddenly took steroids, its not like just because he could drive it farther that he'd necessarily be any better of a golfer.

And yes, this steroid talk is so old and nobody even cares anymore. I don't know why they focus on it so damn much on every sports thing.

So if he was so talented without steroids, which i don't deny, why bother taken them, uh, I mean flaxseed oil, at all?

Hell, pitchers have walked him so much the past few years, so he should've stopped taking them.

Agreed. Just making the point that he's not just some loser that wouldn't be anything without whatever it was that he took.

I don't think anyone doubts he has talent, but in some way that just made him all the worst when he decided to cheat...

Yeah, it has ruined the great accomplishments he's made. I just get sick of all these people who talk like he wouldn't have been anything without the "performance enhancers" that he used.

Then again, this is ATOT where little whiny 13 year olds like to comment on everything, so what am I to expect.

I don't think him taking steroids is the biggest problem here. Giambi took steroids yet I'm willing to forgive him. The problem with Barry is that he thinks he's better than anybody else and it's him against everyone else. He keeps whining after every little tough question asked by a reporter, as if other athletes don't get asked tough questions. He complains about every negative article about him. When steroids issue came up, instead of coming out and saying "guys I used steroids and I'm sorry" or "guys I didn't use steroids, this is all a lie" he starts b*tching and whinning about how media created this. He had a chance to go down as one of the most famous and loved players ever. Instead he'll be remembered as a jerk.

Actually the biggest problem I have with Bonds is that he always acts like he is better than everyone else. However it turns out he was cheating all along (we can't tell when he actually started taking steriods). This makes it impossible to tell what his natural ability is and how talented he is.

Yet he still acts like he is better than everyone else, even after he's caught cheating...

I hate to break it to you, but many people consider him to be the greatest baseball player ever. My coaches last year thought so, along with many other baseball fans.

I just think it's stupid when people say he sucks without steroids and other stupid things, because he's obviously talented. You can't just take steroids and have a good eye and be able to knock in 50+ home runs a season.

Except his home run numbers exploded only after he started taking 'roids.

I'm glad you can provide evidence for such a statement.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: aplefka
You can't just take steroids and have a good eye and be able to knock in 50+ home runs a season.

No, it's not going to make a guy who always misses the ball start connecting or anything like that. What it will do is make a guy who used to accurately hit pop flies into the outfield start hitting more homeruns. You still need to connect, but it'll add power to your hits.

 

[aplefka]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: HardcoreRobot
when he does come back, he will be much lighter (and have a more likely excuse)

Yup. You can't hold the same amount of muscle when your testosterone level goes down.

Yeah, because when you're not able to walk without crutches it's really easy to go to the gym and work out. So any excuse he must have can't possibly be legit. :disgust: