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Banned by PBS: Muslims Against Jihad

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Conky

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PBS blew $675,000 of US taxpayer money on a documentary exploring the difference between peaceful Muslims and the ones who are trying to annihilate our civilization. But when they saw the finished product, PBS execs decided it was "alarmist, overreaching and unfair" ? i.e., not sufficiently sympathetic to the terrorist maniacs who are trying to kill us. So they sat on the project, refusing to air it.

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Fox is airing it tonight. 🙂

 
Isn't it nice when you can just decide why things happen to fit your preconceived notions of how the world works? Never being presented with contradictory evidence or alternative ideas, always safe in your little ideological cocoon where everything has an explanation that doesn't require you to alter your beliefs?

I mean, isn't it possible to make a documentary that is alarmist, overreaching and unfair on just about any topic? The fact that you already hate Muslims doesn't make this any less possible in this case. Although I do find it amusing that Fox "felt that on a topic this important, you should decide"...like they would ever show anything that didn't appeal to the confirmation bias of their viewers. If anyone ever makes a documentary that presents too positive an image of the Islamic world, do you think Fox would feel THAT to be something their viewers should "decide for themselves" on?
 
PBS not showing something that would paint the extremists as, well, extremists?

No!! Impossible!! :roll:

I wonder if NSocialstR, er sorry, NPublic<cough, cough>R will have a discission on this? My guess, probably not...

Chuck
 
It is strange that Muslims in the "civilized" or first world nations)US,Canada,France etc.) have been SILENT on the suicide bombing of 9/11, bombing of Madrid commuter trains, USS Cole bombing,etc. by radical Muslims. In America know them (radical Muslims) as mass murderers, liars,power mad cowards. They are no different than NAZI , Fascists, Saddam Hussein or Joseph Stalin and his henchmen.
No Muslim would speak against other Muslims on tactics and outright lies on what the Koran says. Their silence is a TACIT approval or fear of the "radical Muslims"!
 
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Isn't it nice when you can just decide why things happen to fit your preconceived notions of how the world works? Never being presented with contradictory evidence or alternative ideas, always safe in your little ideological cocoon where everything has an explanation that doesn't require you to alter your beliefs?

I mean, isn't it possible to make a documentary that is alarmist, overreaching and unfair on just about any topic? The fact that you already hate Muslims doesn't make this any less possible in this case. Although I do find it amusing that Fox "felt that on a topic this important, you should decide"...like they would ever show anything that didn't appeal to the confirmation bias of their viewers. If anyone ever makes a documentary that presents too positive an image of the Islamic world, do you think Fox would feel THAT to be something their viewers should "decide for themselves" on?
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I prefer "We report, you decide" over "We've already decided and here's what you think." 😛



 
Yeah, the Bushies who control PBS can't have us seeing any info on Muslims unless its about terrorist Muslims.
 
Originally posted by: Conky
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Rainsford
Isn't it nice when you can just decide why things happen to fit your preconceived notions of how the world works? Never being presented with contradictory evidence or alternative ideas, always safe in your little ideological cocoon where everything has an explanation that doesn't require you to alter your beliefs?

I mean, isn't it possible to make a documentary that is alarmist, overreaching and unfair on just about any topic? The fact that you already hate Muslims doesn't make this any less possible in this case. Although I do find it amusing that Fox "felt that on a topic this important, you should decide"...like they would ever show anything that didn't appeal to the confirmation bias of their viewers. If anyone ever makes a documentary that presents too positive an image of the Islamic world, do you think Fox would feel THAT to be something their viewers should "decide for themselves" on?</end quote></div>I prefer "We report, you decide" over "We've already decided and here's what you think." 😛
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Yes, and calling something the "Ministry of Truth" does not make it so. I'm not saying this is indisputable proof or anything, but if you're in charge of a propaganda outlet, "We Report, You Decide" could hardly be a more perfect slogan.
 
Originally posted by: techs
Yeah, the Bushies who control PBS can't have us seeing any info on Muslims unless its about terrorist Muslims.
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Er, I'm pretty sure that wasn't what happened here...it seems highly probable that this video is extremely and excessively anti-Muslim. As a source for unbiased coverage and analysis, PBS would be right to reject it...which makes it also perfect for Fox News.
 
Originally posted by: JACK4888
It is strange that Muslims in the "civilized" or first world nations)US,Canada,France etc.) have been SILENT on the suicide bombing of 9/11, bombing of Madrid commuter trains, USS Cole bombing,etc. by radical Muslims. In America know them (radical Muslims) as mass murderers, liars,power mad cowards. They are no different than NAZI , Fascists, Saddam Hussein or Joseph Stalin and his henchmen.
No Muslim would speak against other Muslims on tactics and outright lies on what the Koran says. Their silence is a TACIT approval or fear of the "radical Muslims"!
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They have? Hell, Muslims in the "uncivilized" world spoke out against 9/11. I seem to remember quite a bit of condemnation from the Muslim world after that particular attack, up to and including a candle-light vigil in Iran of all places. If you see nothing but terrorists when you look at Muslims, maybe that's because that's all you want to see.
 
Originally posted by: Rainsford
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: JACK4888
It is strange that Muslims in the "civilized" or first world nations)US,Canada,France etc.) have been SILENT on the suicide bombing of 9/11, bombing of Madrid commuter trains, USS Cole bombing,etc. by radical Muslims. In America know them (radical Muslims) as mass murderers, liars,power mad cowards. They are no different than NAZI , Fascists, Saddam Hussein or Joseph Stalin and his henchmen.
No Muslim would speak against other Muslims on tactics and outright lies on what the Koran says. Their silence is a TACIT approval or fear of the "radical Muslims"!</end quote></div>

They have? Hell, Muslims in the "uncivilized" world spoke out against 9/11. I seem to remember quite a bit of condemnation from the Muslim world after that particular attack, up to and including a candle-light vigil in Iran of all places. If you see nothing but terrorists when you look at Muslims, maybe that's because that's all you want to see.
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all true... but we could still certainly stand to see them being louder and more frequent in their protests these days.
 
Originally posted by: techs
Yeah, the Bushies who control PBS can't have us seeing any info on Muslims unless its about terrorist Muslims.
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oh man.. I actually enjoy psb program especially frontline I actually thought they weren't bias if our government is doing something wrong they will show to public instead all bs corp media show.. *sigh, I'm going have to point my sat some where else to get real unbias news non-supported by corp
 
The real issue is, the liberals have screwed this country over. Sure...smoke another joint, let a few muslim bretheren in...suddenly, we have over 7 million, who would love nothing more, than to take away your life as you know it. <kick in the nuts> the truth hurts</kick in the nuts> :|


In the 60's hippies were miscreants, today, they are flat damned dangerous.
 
Originally posted by: compuwiz1
The real issue is, the liberals have screwed this country over. Sure...smoke another joint, let a few muslim bretheren in...suddenly, we have over 7 million, who would love nothing more, than to take away your life as you know it. <kick in the nuts> the truth hurts</kick in the nuts> :|


In the 60's hippies were miscreants, today, they are flat damned dangerous.
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The biggest difference today is that the people who we are fighting against really think they will convert us to their f'd up cult by suicide bombing us into submission. They are a terribly cowardly lot and they will never ever gain the influence they seek.

Who will ever follow cowards? Except, perhaps, other cowards?







 
This thread is amazing but typical for this forum. Everyone is commenting, meaning making it a liberal vs conservative issue, on a film no one here has seen.
 
Originally posted by: Conky
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: compuwiz1
The real issue is, the liberals have screwed this country over. Sure...smoke another joint, let a few muslim bretheren in...suddenly, we have over 7 million, who would love nothing more, than to take away your life as you know it. <kick in the nuts> the truth hurts</kick in the nuts> :|


In the 60's hippies were miscreants, today, they are flat damned dangerous.</end quote></div>The biggest difference today is that the people who we are fighting against really think they will convert us to their f'd up cult by suicide bombing us into submission. They are a terribly cowardly lot and they will never ever gain the influence they seek.

Who will ever follow cowards? Except, perhaps, other cowards?
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Like the bombers who continue to follow bombers, even though they all know how it's gonna turn out? Such stupidity, or worse, brain washing. Ignore the post below you, as well as the one above me. Our liberal government let all these miscreants into the country. Someday, a man with some balls will reverse it.


 
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Corn
:roll:

Silly liberati thinking their silly sarcasm is clever.......</end quote></div>

THIS THREAD AND ITS RESPONDENTS ANGER ME TO NO END.
THE BUSH APPOINTEE TO HEAD PBS IN 2003, KENNETH TOMLINSON, SPENT HIS TENURE SPENDING PBS MONEY TO "PROVE" PBS HAD A LIBERAL BIAS. HIS FIRST TWO POLLS SHOWED THEIR WAS NO LIBERAL BIAS.
TWO POLLS WERE CONDUCTED BY INDEPENDENT POLLERS. NO BIAS WAS FOUND.
SO HE HIRED A REPUBLICAN POLLING COMPANY TO TAKE ANOTHER POLL TO "PROVE" LIBERAL BIAS.
AND TOMLINSON SECRETLY HIRED A FIRM, WITH PBS MONEY, TO MONITOR THE BILL MOYERS SHOW FOR LIBERAL BIAS.
SO IF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH SPENDING MONEY ON A SHOW NEVER AIRED, THEN WHERE WERE THEY WHEN MORE MONEY THAN THAT WAS SPENT ON A WITCH HUNT TO PROVE SOMETHING THAT NEVER WAS?
DISGUSTING.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pbs
http://www.boycott-riaa.com/article/16802
http://www.democraticmedia.org...nwatch/CPBsurveys.html
AND HUNDRED OF OTHER PLACES ON THE WEB
 
Originally posted by: palehorse74
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Rainsford
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: JACK4888
It is strange that Muslims in the "civilized" or first world nations)US,Canada,France etc.) have been SILENT on the suicide bombing of 9/11, bombing of Madrid commuter trains, USS Cole bombing,etc. by radical Muslims. In America know them (radical Muslims) as mass murderers, liars,power mad cowards. They are no different than NAZI , Fascists, Saddam Hussein or Joseph Stalin and his henchmen.
No Muslim would speak against other Muslims on tactics and outright lies on what the Koran says. Their silence is a TACIT approval or fear of the "radical Muslims"!</end quote></div>

They have? Hell, Muslims in the "uncivilized" world spoke out against 9/11. I seem to remember quite a bit of condemnation from the Muslim world after that particular attack, up to and including a candle-light vigil in Iran of all places. If you see nothing but terrorists when you look at Muslims, maybe that's because that's all you want to see.</end quote></div>
all true... but we could still certainly stand to see them being louder and more frequent in their protests these days.
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Probably, it certainly couldn't hurt. But on the other hand, these things always take time, and we are doing far more to hurt the cause of moderate Muslims than we're doing to help them. Our country (or at least a significant percentage of it) has essentially embraced demonizing Muslims, to the point where installing a foot washing station becomes symbolic of giving in to the 9/11 attackers. I don't think this will be making the average moderate Muslim want to join Al-Qaeda or anything, but while he or she might not be on their side, I could understand if they don't want to be on our side either.
 
Originally posted by: Conky
PBS blew $675,000 of US taxpayer money on a documentary exploring the difference between peaceful Muslims and the ones who are trying to annihilate our civilization. But when they saw the finished product, PBS execs decided it was "alarmist, overreaching and unfair" ? i.e., not sufficiently sympathetic to the terrorist maniacs who are trying to kill us. So they sat on the project, refusing to air it.

Link to story

Fox is airing it tonight. 🙂
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Thanks for the heads up. I saw an interview with one of hte producers, and it was pretty lame how they wouldn't show it. I'll be sure to tune in, I'll have to unblock fox news though 🙂
 
Originally posted by: Rainsford
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: JACK4888
It is strange that Muslims in the "civilized" or first world nations)US,Canada,France etc.) have been SILENT on the suicide bombing of 9/11, bombing of Madrid commuter trains, USS Cole bombing,etc. by radical Muslims. In America know them (radical Muslims) as mass murderers, liars,power mad cowards. They are no different than NAZI , Fascists, Saddam Hussein or Joseph Stalin and his henchmen.
No Muslim would speak against other Muslims on tactics and outright lies on what the Koran says. Their silence is a TACIT approval or fear of the "radical Muslims"!</end quote></div>

They have? Hell, Muslims in the "uncivilized" world spoke out against 9/11. I seem to remember quite a bit of condemnation from the Muslim world after that particular attack, up to and including a candle-light vigil in Iran of all places. If you see nothing but terrorists when you look at Muslims, maybe that's because that's all you want to see.
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No, no. Rainsford. Every single one of the tens of millions of first-world Muslims has been silent on 9/11. Not one has expressed disapproval. We know this because the CIA, NSA, and all the foreign security services monitor every one of those Muslims 24 hours a day, 365 days a year. And a review of the trillions of hours of recordings to date has revealed 100% silence on 9/11.

Amazing, isn't it?
 
Originally posted by: shira
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Rainsford
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: JACK4888
It is strange that Muslims in the "civilized" or first world nations)US,Canada,France etc.) have been SILENT on the suicide bombing of 9/11, bombing of Madrid commuter trains, USS Cole bombing,etc. by radical Muslims. In America know them (radical Muslims) as mass murderers, liars,power mad cowards. They are no different than NAZI , Fascists, Saddam Hussein or Joseph Stalin and his henchmen.
No Muslim would speak against other Muslims on tactics and outright lies on what the Koran says. Their silence is a TACIT approval or fear of the "radical Muslims"!</end quote></div>

They have? Hell, Muslims in the "uncivilized" world spoke out against 9/11. I seem to remember quite a bit of condemnation from the Muslim world after that particular attack, up to and including a candle-light vigil in Iran of all places. If you see nothing but terrorists when you look at Muslims, maybe that's because that's all you want to see.</end quote></div>

No, no. Rainsford. Every single one of the tens of millions of first-world Muslims has been silent on 9/11. Not one has expressed disapproval. We know this because the CIA, NSA, and all the foreign security services monitor every one of those Muslims 24 hours a day, 365 days a year. And a review of the trillions of hours of recordings to date has revealed 100% silence on 9/11.

Amazing, isn't it?
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I'm more amazed that the aforementioned intelligence agencies shared their findings with an individual who can't seem to construct basic English sentences correctly.
 
Originally posted by: WhipperSnapper

Um...so, did anyone watch the aforementioned PBS-banned documentary?
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I saw most of it. I'm not sure it was the anti-Muslim propaganda piece a lot of folks were expecting, but I think PBS was well within its rights to reject showing it. While not in the tank for the anti-Muslim folks, the filmmakers were clearly pursuing a particular agenda, one not too focused on finding the truth. Rather than doing what the documentary suggests, exploring the differences between moderate and extreme Muslims, it was a lot of alarmist tripe about painting the entire Muslim community with the same radical brush. The "exploration" of moderate Muslims suggested that they were few and far between, and while the film did give such moderates their due, it seemed quite intent on suggesting they did not speak for the community at large.
 
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