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So, I don't drink a ton of energy drinks, maybe 1-2 a month. I have ADHD so caffeine is a big help when trying to stay focused.

So Publix (supermarket) had some in stock so I grabbed a few. I must say for being zero calories they have some good flavor to them. So far no headaches from the sweeteners for me. Anyone else tried these? Had any issues?
 

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I pretty much avoid any energy drinks, and bang is even worse when they try to appeal to the fitness crowd by putting in creatine and BCAAs. News flash, a 1-2g dose of creatine is essentially worthless, and BCAAs are pretty commonly understood to be worthless as well if you're eating a high level of animal proteins.

The flavors like "unicorn" and shit like that piss me off too. How TF am I supposed to interpret unicorn as a flavor and whether or not I'll like it?

I'll stick to my coffee for normal caffeine intake and my preworkout for a proven supplement stack before a workout.

Also, someone mentioned them getting sued, it's basically just a false advertisement suit by Monster because the sleazy guy who owns Bang tried to claim that creatine would slow/reverse the effect of aging on the brain. LMAO nice try.
 

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I pretty much avoid any energy drinks, and bang is even worse when they try to appeal to the fitness crowd by putting in creatine and BCAAs. News flash, a 1-2g dose of creatine is essentially worthless, and BCAAs are pretty commonly understood to be worthless as well if you're eating a high level of animal proteins.

The flavors like "unicorn" and shit like that piss me off too. How TF am I supposed to interpret unicorn as a flavor and whether or not I'll like it?

I'll stick to my coffee for normal caffeine intake and my preworkout for a proven supplement stack before a workout.

I love the smell of coffee, and absolutely hate the taste. When family comes over and they make it, its amazing. I try it, and promptly spit it out like a virgin on prom night. Coffee is a no go sadly.
 

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I pretty much avoid any energy drinks, and bang is even worse when they try to appeal to the fitness crowd by putting in creatine and BCAAs. News flash, a 1-2g dose of creatine is essentially worthless, and BCAAs are pretty commonly understood to be worthless as well if you're eating a high level of animal proteins.

The inclusion of a small amount of creatine and BCAAs has nothing to do with appealing to the fitness crowd (although it doesn't hurt). The intent for their formula is actually to aid overall mental focus and stamina, which is why it's a small dose of creatine along with a hefty dose of caffeine. BCAAs aren't worthless because you just said why: you need to eat a high level of animal proteins. And depending on source, the animal in question, and their diet, who knows what you'll be getting in terms of BCAAs. If you don't get naturally get a sufficient amount, supplementary sources are of real benefit.

Bang tried to claim that creatine would slow/reverse the effect of aging on the brain. LMAO nice try.

That's actually true... so...

I mean, at least to a certain degree. It is actually great for brain health at low doses. It's not all about muscle building.
 

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The inclusion of a small amount of creatine and BCAAs has nothing to do with appealing to the fitness crowd (although it doesn't hurt). The intent for their formula is actually to aid overall mental focus and stamina, which is why it's a small dose of creatine along with a hefty dose of caffeine. BCAAs aren't worthless because you just said why: you need to eat a high level of animal proteins. And depending on source, the animal in question, and their diet, who knows what you'll be getting in terms of BCAAs. If you don't get naturally get a sufficient amount, supplementary sources are of real benefit.



That's actually true... so...

I mean, at least to a certain degree. It is actually great for brain health at low doses. It's not all about muscle building.
I've got a pet rock to sell you guaranteed to make you feel more manly.
 
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"Bang Energy"? In programming, "bang" is a way to speak the "!" symbol. And that symbol means boolean inverse. Or "not" for short. So "bang energy" would be "not energy", or the opposite of energy. :joycat:
 
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I've got a pet rock to sell you guaranteed to make you feel more manly.

Note: I didn't say they were selling some kind of miracle formula. Just how it's marketed, and that there is scientific evidence to support that marketing to some degree. As always, take marketing with a grain of salt.

It may be correct to say 2g of creatine is not enough even for brain health supplementation, I've usually seen that stated as closer to 5-10g a day. But they are using a specialized version of creatine that, purportedly, is more readily absorbed?

My point was more that his argument was false. Firstly, it's not a body building supplement, I mean it can be used as a PWO but it's not extensively created specifically for that. Redline has other products for that market IIRC. And secondly, his health claims were false.
 

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I love the smell of coffee, and absolutely hate the taste. When family comes over and they make it, its amazing. I try it, and promptly spit it out like a virgin on prom night. Coffee is a no go sadly.
The inclusion of a small amount of creatine and BCAAs has nothing to do with appealing to the fitness crowd (although it doesn't hurt). The intent for their formula is actually to aid overall mental focus and stamina, which is why it's a small dose of creatine along with a hefty dose of caffeine. BCAAs aren't worthless because you just said why: you need to eat a high level of animal proteins. And depending on source, the animal in question, and their diet, who knows what you'll be getting in terms of BCAAs. If you don't get naturally get a sufficient amount, supplementary sources are of real benefit.



That's actually true... so...

I mean, at least to a certain degree. It is actually great for brain health at low doses. It's not all about muscle building.

There are probably hundreds of studies on creatine and the positive effects on muscular development and recovery, but only a handful on the brain. The studies I've seen show a minor improvement in short term memory and cognitive reasoning when dosed at 5g+ / day. The bang energy guy is claiming that you can cure alzheimers with creatine, and specifically the special creatine that is in his can, which I'm sure is no different than the handful of different creatine optimizations that are already out there.

And I don't know how you say it's not marketed at the fitness crowd. Literally their entire marketing scheme is around high profile athletes in the bodybuilding, crossfit, and fitness realms posting them drinking it on instagram.
 

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There are probably hundreds of studies on creatine and the positive effects on muscular development and recovery, but only a handful on the brain. The studies I've seen show a minor improvement in short term memory and cognitive reasoning when dosed at 5g+ / day. The bang energy guy is claiming that you can cure alzheimers with creatine, and specifically the special creatine that is in his can, which I'm sure is no different than the handful of different creatine optimizations that are already out there.

And I don't know how you say it's not marketed at the fitness crowd. Literally their entire marketing scheme is around high profile athletes in the bodybuilding, crossfit, and fitness realms posting them drinking it on instagram.

Fair enough.

As for marketing, to be fair I haven't dug into the marketing. I was just speaking about what was on the can itself. But considering Redline (well, VPX I think) make it and other fitness/energy products, it seems natural to use that market and fitness pros in it to market their new product. VPX may be expanding into the broader energy/supplement market outside of fitness, but if you make fitness products and always sponsor athletes and fitness industry pros, you'd do the same here.

But again focus on the message of the product itself and not the current marketing efforts - it's all about brain health, and energy, lots and lots of energy. Considering the can has over 300mg of caffeine, they are sticking to their caffeine overload approach typical of PWO products, that much is true.

I just think this product is aimed a little differently than your standard PWO product.

Health claims in that niche of the supplement industry have always been exaggerated. Perhaps they've been a bit excessive in the marketing, and hopefully they get slapped for that if it's been the primary message. I'm definitely not excusing that.