Bands that got better with age

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Miramonti

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I'd have to say the Police. While 'Roxanne' is early and I love zenyatta mondatta, they became a much deeper and capable as a band as they all matured.

Also, debateable, but Genesis. As a band they grew together as well. That's not to say I'd ever choose Phil Collins over Peter Gabriel, but even with Gabriel, they got better from their early 70's music before he left. And with collins they continued to grow (even if it wasn't as genius as with gabriel and was more pop.)
 

Aikouka

Lifer
Nov 27, 2001
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Originally posted by: KeithTalent
I can't tell if you're agreeing with me or not. :laugh:

Stockholm is one of my favourite songs of theirs for sure. I like all of the old albums, I just feel as if each new album, as a whole, has been better than the previous one.

KT

Well, I didn't really mention it in there, but I've talked about how much political crap is in their newest album. I like the sound of the album (Map of the Problematique, Assassin and Knights of Cydonia all sound really good), but sometimes the political stuff is just too much. The Watchmen trailer #2 actually uses the first track off the Black Holes and Revelations album in the latter part of the trailer. But I believe that their peak was with Origins of Symmetry. So far, it's their only album in which I'll listen to almost all of it, but I usually skip tracks 5, 9 and 10. On Origin of Symmetry, I skip 10 and 11.

Actually, it seems I mixed up some of their albums... it should be:

Showbiz
Origin of Symmetry
Hullabaloo (live album)
Absolution
Black Holes and Revelations

With that proper ordering, I think it's really hard to say that Muse got better, because Origin of Symmetry is rather good. It's more like the band works in a Sine wave of goodness :p.
 

joesmoke

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Originally posted by: Aflac
I'm not sure if the last album of Blink-182 counts as "age", but it was head and shoulders above everything else they put out musically.

Hmm... to me, Blink if a perfect example of a "first-half" band.
 

InflatableBuddha

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I think Tool might fit this criteria.

Opiate and Undertow were incredibly solid, Aenima raised the bar even further, and Lateralus was downright fantastic. However, while I think 10,000 Days is a solid album, it doesn't quite measure up to Aenima or Lateralus.
 

Ns1

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Jun 17, 2001
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Originally posted by: InflatableBuddha
I think Tool might fit this criteria.

Opiate and Undertow were incredibly solid, Aenima raised the bar even further, and Lateralus was downright fantastic. However, while I think 10,000 Days is a solid album, it doesn't quite measure up to Aenima or Lateralus.

I'd put em as pretty flat through their entire career, with Aenima being the top and Opiate being the bottom
 

Strk

Lifer
Nov 23, 2003
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Originally posted by: InflatableBuddha
I think Tool might fit this criteria.

Opiate and Undertow were incredibly solid, Aenima raised the bar even further, and Lateralus was downright fantastic. However, while I think 10,000 Days is a solid album, it doesn't quite measure up to Aenima or Lateralus.

I wanted to say Tool too, but Ænima is just so much better than 10,000 Days and Lateralus. And don't get me wrong, the last two albums are very good, but they're not Ænima. Jambi is still one of my favorite songs regardless of that though.
 

TechBoyJK

Lifer
Oct 17, 2002
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Originally posted by: Strk
Originally posted by: InflatableBuddha
I think Tool might fit this criteria.

Opiate and Undertow were incredibly solid, Aenima raised the bar even further, and Lateralus was downright fantastic. However, while I think 10,000 Days is a solid album, it doesn't quite measure up to Aenima or Lateralus.

I wanted to say Tool too, but Ænima is just so much better than 10,000 Days and Lateralus. And don't get me wrong, the last two albums are very good, but they're not Ænima. Jambi is still one of my favorite songs regardless of that though.

Ahh.. a whole nother debate, but I think alot of people that were on Maynard's level back in the day aren't really digging the latest cd because of the spiritual and borderline christian overtones. He used to be like "FUCK GOD FUCK YOUR CHRIST" and now he's like "God is Good, and if wasn't for Jesus, my mom would have died and I wouldn't be the man I am" AND the whole "get right with Jesus and beware of the devil" phrasing found throught his Puscifer CD.

He's a christian (maybe not a bible thumper but he's still a Jesus lover) who wont admit it because if he did, nobody would listen to him.
 

geno

Lifer
Dec 26, 1999
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Tool. 10K days isn't their best work ever, but they definitely progressed since their much earlier stuff... I just read IB's post above before hitting Reply and I agree wholeheartedly :)

It's kind of sad thinking about how many bands had great starts and just declined in quality over the years. Even some of my favs like STP, Pearl Jam, etc. They all just headed downward after creating some absolutely classic albums.
 

Ns1

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Jun 17, 2001
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Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
Originally posted by: Strk
Originally posted by: InflatableBuddha
I think Tool might fit this criteria.

Opiate and Undertow were incredibly solid, Aenima raised the bar even further, and Lateralus was downright fantastic. However, while I think 10,000 Days is a solid album, it doesn't quite measure up to Aenima or Lateralus.

I wanted to say Tool too, but Ænima is just so much better than 10,000 Days and Lateralus. And don't get me wrong, the last two albums are very good, but they're not Ænima. Jambi is still one of my favorite songs regardless of that though.

Ahh.. a whole nother debate, but I think alot of people that were on Maynard's level back in the day aren't really digging the latest cd because of the spiritual and borderline christian overtones. He used to be like "FUCK GOD FUCK YOUR CHRIST" and now he's like "God is Good, and if wasn't for Jesus, my mom would have died and I wouldn't be the man I am" AND the whole "get right with Jesus and beware of the devil" phrasing found throught his Puscifer CD.

He's a christian (maybe not a bible thumper but he's still a Jesus lover) who wont admit it because if he did, nobody would listen to him.

I don't know, I think he had spiritual and religious overtones since Undertow. I do think old MJK live > MJK live now

I wish he still did odd shit, like paint himself blue, and banter with the crowd.
 

KeithTalent

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Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Originally posted by: Abel007
Green Day? Maybe not better but their music matured and is still really good.

Bah <insert pretentious music snob comment here>

KT

It's okay, you can say it... they haven't put anything good out in over a decade. Maybe longer, depending on how you feel about Dookie.

Haha, you nailed it. I like a couple of songs on Dookie, but Kerplunk is really their last good album.

KT
 

scott916

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Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Haha, you nailed it. I like a couple of songs on Dookie, but Kerplunk is really their last good album.

KT

Agreed.
 

KeithTalent

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Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: InflatableBuddha
I think Tool might fit this criteria.

Opiate and Undertow were incredibly solid, Aenima raised the bar even further, and Lateralus was downright fantastic. However, while I think 10,000 Days is a solid album, it doesn't quite measure up to Aenima or Lateralus.

I'd put em as pretty flat through their entire career, with Aenima being the top and Opiate being the bottom

Heh, Opiate and Undertow are the only albums of theirs I can still listen to. Everything later on just seemed too long and drawn out. I do like songs here and there and I still buy their albums, but I just don't get excited for any of the newer stuff.

KT
 

Ns1

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Everything later on just seemed too long and drawn out.

Man, that's the best part. There are so many songs that I love that go up to like, 4 minutes and change, where I would love for it to go on for 9 minutes. You say long and drawn out, I say epic =P

 

scott916

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Originally posted by: Arkitech
I'll take a stab at this one

Incubus
Disturbed
The Roots
Outcast

Hmm... The Roots, maybe throughout their first three albums. Outkast is tough to say. Southernplayalistikcadillacmuzik was VERY good. A classic, even. However, each album is SO different that it's tough to pin one as the best. ATLiens is very good, Aquemini is amazing, but I wouldn't say they're better.

Never really listened to Incubus or Disturbed.
 

Arkaign

Lifer
Oct 27, 2006
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Do you like Phil Collins? I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where, uh, Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums. Christy, take off your robe. Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument. Sabrina, remove your dress. In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. Sabrina, why don't you, uh, dance a little. Take the lyrics to Land of Confusion. In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. In Too Deep is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as, uh, anything I've heard in rock. Christy, get down on your knees so Sabrina can see your ass. Phil Collins' solo career seems to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying, in a narrower way. Especially songs like In the Air Tonight and, uh, Against All Odds. Sabrina, don't just stare at it, eat it. But I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist. This is Sussudio, a great, great song, a personal favorite.
 

InflatableBuddha

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Originally posted by: Ns1
Everything later on just seemed too long and drawn out.

Man, that's the best part. There are so many songs that I love that go up to like, 4 minutes and change, where I would love for it to go on for 9 minutes. You say long and drawn out, I say epic =P

:thumbsup: I am down with Tool's long, drawn-out epicness.
 

InflatableBuddha

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Originally posted by: Shawn
RHCP

This has already been covered...no.

Stadium Arcadium and Californication are very good, but BSSM reigns supreme. And One Hot Minute is a fucking abomination.
 

Ns1

No Lifer
Jun 17, 2001
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Originally posted by: InflatableBuddha
Originally posted by: Ns1
Everything later on just seemed too long and drawn out.

Man, that's the best part. There are so many songs that I love that go up to like, 4 minutes and change, where I would love for it to go on for 9 minutes. You say long and drawn out, I say epic =P

:thumbsup: I am down with Tool's long, drawn-out epicness.

In honor of this post, I'm firing up Eulogy. Feels like 4 minutes, goes on for 8. w00t.
 

SphinxnihpS

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Feb 17, 2005
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...just thought of this one, and I'm POSITIVE it will rankle the "true fan" types but...

The Mars Volta. In fact it's a straight progression. Deloused in the Comatourium<Frances The Mute<Amputecture<The Bedlam in Goliath