Bands that got better with age

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mesthead21

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Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: mesthead21
I would say Pink Floyd is a good one

omfg fail on 20 million levels.

DSoTM alone trumps everything past the wall combined.

Kind of depends on where you define "older"... They started in 1967 and DSoTM came out in 1973...
 

TechBoyJK

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Originally posted by: acheron
Originally posted by: Aflac

Personally I'd say Dream Theater got better to a point (their peak was definitely Metropolis Pt. 2 and SDOIT).

You misspelled "Images and Words" and "Awake". :p

hahah good one. I think their next cd should be their best. Recording the same way they did awake, and coming off of their tours with Between teh Buried and Me (MP's new fave band), which is an insanely complicated and heavy metal band, that even MP admitted is more diverse and just as talented band. He said its the first band that has truly challenged his musician in years. So he's coming into this new cd with some aspirations to make his mark again.

That, and it seems their singer has finally accepted he's the weak link in the band and needs to do more experimental and modern singing.
 

Beev

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Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: edro
Metallica

if you only count their first 3 albums then yes

First 4 albums were phenomenal, then they gradually got shittier and shittier and now partway redeemed themselves with Death Magnetic. Load and ReLoad were mediocre at best, and no one in the world likes St Anger.
 

Ns1

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Originally posted by: mesthead21
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: mesthead21
I would say Pink Floyd is a good one

omfg fail on 20 million levels.

DSoTM alone trumps everything past the wall combined.

Kind of depends on where you define "older"... They started in 1967 and DSoTM came out in 1973...

I defined it above. If you figure their career as 1967-1994, the halfway point would be ~1981, and there is absolutely no way this

# The Piper at the Gates of Dawn (1967)
# A Saucerful of Secrets (1968)
# Soundtrack from the Film More (1969)
# Ummagumma (1969)
# Atom Heart Mother (1970)
# Meddle (1971)
# Obscured by Clouds (1972)
# The Dark Side of the Moon (1973)
# Wish You Were Here (1975)
# Animals (1977)
# The Wall (1979)

Would be trumped by this

# The Final Cut (1983)
# A Momentary Lapse of Reason (1987)
# The Division Bell (1994)


Of course, it would be a much more fun argument if we cut it in half...

# The Piper at the Gates of Dawn (1967)
# A Saucerful of Secrets (1968)
# Soundtrack from the Film More (1969)
# Ummagumma (1969)
# Atom Heart Mother (1970)
# Meddle (1971)
# Obscured by Clouds (1972)

vs

# The Dark Side of the Moon (1973)
# Wish You Were Here (1975)
# Animals (1977)
# The Wall (1979)
# The Final Cut (1983)
# A Momentary Lapse of Reason (1987)
# The Division Bell (1994)

If we do it that way, then I would agree that the 2nd half is better.
 

KeithTalent

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Hmm, how about Muse? Their last album was pretty spectacular.

KT
 

Anubis

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Originally posted by: Beev
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: edro
Metallica

if you only count their first 3 albums then yes

First 4 albums were phenomenal, then they gradually got shittier and shittier and now partway redeemed themselves with Death Magnetic. Load and ReLoad were mediocre at best, and no one in the world likes St Anger.

Justice was good but not better then KTA, RTL or MOP, but i agree with what you typed for the most part. DM is actually good if you get your hands on the GH3 version which has much better mastering
 

dullard

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Pretty much all of Frank Sinatra's good songs came from the 1960s. They are far better than his stuff in the 1940s and 1950s.

Of course, after the 1960s he didn't do much noteworthy.
 

KeithTalent

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Originally posted by: yh125d
Zao
System Of A Down
Fall Out Boy
RHCP

RHCP? NFW.

Plus you can't count Fall Out Boy because they were never good, though maybe if they release something that doesn't make blood pour from ears in the next while, we can revisit that.

KT
 

Ns1

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Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Originally posted by: yh125d
Zao
System Of A Down
Fall Out Boy
RHCP

RHCP? NFW.

Plus you can't count Fall Out Boy because they were never good, though maybe if they release something that doesn't make blood pour from ears in the next while, we can revisit that.

KT

this
 

nakedfrog

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Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Originally posted by: yh125d
Zao
System Of A Down
Fall Out Boy
RHCP

RHCP? NFW.

Plus you can't count Fall Out Boy because they were never good, though maybe if they release something that doesn't make blood pour from ears in the next while, we can revisit that.

KT

I think you meant to include SOAD in your comment there. I've never heard of Zao, but based on the other entries, probably them too.
 

KeithTalent

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Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Originally posted by: yh125d
Zao
System Of A Down
Fall Out Boy
RHCP

RHCP? NFW.

Plus you can't count Fall Out Boy because they were never good, though maybe if they release something that doesn't make blood pour from ears in the next while, we can revisit that.

KT

I think you meant to include SOAD in your comment there. I've never heard of Zao, but based on the other entries, probably them too.

SOAD is flat. I have all of their albums I think, but am relatively indifferent to their music in general.

KT
 

Abel007

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Green Day? Maybe not better but their music matured and is still really good.
 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: Ns1

Of course, it would be a much more fun argument if we cut it in half...

# The Piper at the Gates of Dawn (1967)
# A Saucerful of Secrets (1968)
# Soundtrack from the Film More (1969)
# Ummagumma (1969)
# Atom Heart Mother (1970)
# Meddle (1971)
# Obscured by Clouds (1972)

vs

# The Dark Side of the Moon (1973)
# Wish You Were Here (1975)
# Animals (1977)
# The Wall (1979)
# The Final Cut (1983)
# A Momentary Lapse of Reason (1987)
# The Division Bell (1994)

If we do it that way, then I would agree that the 2nd half is better.

That's the argument, I think. Except Meddle and Obscured by clouds should be included with the second half. Meddle marks that solid transition point into the glory years. They were touring early DSoTM for the second set of their Meddle tour.

besides, Meddle is a fantastic album. I have a few friends that prefer it above all their other work.
 

yh125d

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I think RHCP's 3 best albums are Blood Sugar Sex Magik, By The Way, and Stadium Arcadium, all of which are latter half. And I know I'm not alone here :p
 

Aikouka

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Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Hmm, how about Muse? Their last album was pretty spectacular.

KT

While I think Origins of Symmetry and Black Holes and Revelations both have better songs than Absolution and Hullabaloo, the earlier two CDs (the latter two that I listed) are both good. Personally, I'm a fan of Stockholm Syndrome (track 5) and Hysteria (track 8) on Absolution and Shrinking Universe (track 3) on Hullabaloo (CD1).

If we ignored Saturday Night Wrist, I'd say Deftones. I'm not the biggest fan of their earlier music, but I do quite enjoy the latter stuff (although not so much in regard to Saturday Night Wrist).
 

Ns1

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Originally posted by: yh125d
I think RHCP's 3 best albums are Blood Sugar Sex Magik, By The Way, and Stadium Arcadium, all of which are latter half. And I know I'm not alone here :p

I'd replace BTW with Californication personally.

While I love the funk that oldschool RHCP exudes, I find it hard to listen to anything pre-BSSM, except for a few select tracks. I can't stand early AK
 

KeithTalent

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Originally posted by: Abel007
Green Day? Maybe not better but their music matured and is still really good.

Bah <insert pretentious music snob comment here>

KT
 

KeithTalent

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Originally posted by: Aikouka
Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Hmm, how about Muse? Their last album was pretty spectacular.

KT

While I think Origins of Symmetry and Black Holes and Revelations both have better songs than Absolution and Hullabaloo, the earlier two CDs (the latter two that I listed) are both good. Personally, I'm a fan of Stockholm Syndrome (track 5) and Hysteria (track 8) on Absolution and Shrinking Universe (track 3) on Hullabaloo (CD1).

I can't tell if you're agreeing with me or not. :laugh:

Stockholm is one of my favourite songs of theirs for sure. I like all of the old albums, I just feel as if each new album, as a whole, has been better than the previous one.

KT
 

nakedfrog

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Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Originally posted by: yh125d
Zao
System Of A Down
Fall Out Boy
RHCP

RHCP? NFW.

Plus you can't count Fall Out Boy because they were never good, though maybe if they release something that doesn't make blood pour from ears in the next while, we can revisit that.

KT

I think you meant to include SOAD in your comment there. I've never heard of Zao, but based on the other entries, probably them too.

SOAD is flat. I have all of their albums I think, but am relatively indifferent to their music in general.

KT

I think I'd like them a bit more with a different singer.
 

nakedfrog

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Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Originally posted by: Abel007
Green Day? Maybe not better but their music matured and is still really good.

Bah <insert pretentious music snob comment here>

KT

It's okay, you can say it... they haven't put anything good out in over a decade. Maybe longer, depending on how you feel about Dookie.