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Ban Oreos!!!

Hoober

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Oreo cookies should be banned from sale to children in California, according to a lawsuit filed by a San Francisco attorney who claims that trans fat -- the stuff that makes the chocolate cookies crisp and their filling creamy -- is so dangerous children shouldn't eat it.

Only in California
 

Aceshigh

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I can see it now.

kid: "I'd like a package of oreos please."

clerk behind the counter: "Can I see your ID?"
 

Electric Amish

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I'd prefer that they just ban fscking with the design of Oreos.

Chocolate cookies w/ white filling. It's so perfect there's no need to screw with it.

amish
 

Fausto

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FWIW- trans fat is really, really bad for you as fat goes. Banning foods containing it is absurd, but proper labeling is appropriate IMO.
 

Fausto

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Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Well then. Suicide by masturbation, or suicide by Oreos? :p

- M4H
Hmm....those are both going to be highly traumatic for those you leave behind. They'll either have to clean the walls, or your teeth (assuming open casket) depending which method you employ to off yourself. :p

 

NuclearFusi0n

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Originally posted by: Fausto1
FWIW- trans fat is really, really bad for you as fat goes. Banning foods containing it is absurd, but proper labeling is appropriate IMO.
It's the consumer's responsibility to be educated on the fat content of their foods. As long as it states the proper nutritional facts and ingredients, I see no need for a warning label. Is that what you are suggesting? I'm not understanding you fully.
 

Fausto

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Originally posted by: NuclearFusi0n
Originally posted by: Fausto1
FWIW- trans fat is really, really bad for you as fat goes. Banning foods containing it is absurd, but proper labeling is appropriate IMO.
It's the consumer's responsibility to be educated on the fat content of their foods. As long as it states the proper nutritional facts and ingredients, I see no need for a warning label. Is that what you are suggesting? I'm not understanding you fully.
No, not a warning label. I'm just saying that the label should indicate how much trans fat is in each serving of whatever food you're about to eat. Right now, you'll see total fat and saturated fat amounts listed, but not trans fats even though they're arguably worse for you than saturated fats.

 

NuclearFusi0n

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Originally posted by: Fausto1
Originally posted by: NuclearFusi0n
Originally posted by: Fausto1
FWIW- trans fat is really, really bad for you as fat goes. Banning foods containing it is absurd, but proper labeling is appropriate IMO.
It's the consumer's responsibility to be educated on the fat content of their foods. As long as it states the proper nutritional facts and ingredients, I see no need for a warning label. Is that what you are suggesting? I'm not understanding you fully.
No, not a warning label. I'm just saying that the label should indicate how much trans fat is in each serving of whatever food you're about to eat. Right now, you'll see total fat and saturated fat amounts listed, but not trans fats even though they're arguably worse for you than saturated fats.
I agree, making nutritional facts more indepth for every product can't hurt, but singling out products isn't the way to go. :)
 

Fausto

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Originally posted by: Hoober
What's the difference between trans fats and saturated/non?
Trans fats are usually listed as "partially hydrogenated". They seem to be a double whammy for your heart as they both increase "bad" LDL cholesterol and decrease "good" HDL cholesterol. It apparently does other fun stuff to you as well. Borrowed the following from a ConsumerReports article:

Large observational studies indicate that trans fat may increase the risk of heart disease considerably more than can be explained by its negative effects on cholesterol levels. To explain that gap, researchers note that trans fat clearly increases blood levels of two other suspected artery-clogging compounds: a fat-protein particle called lipoprotein(a) and triglycerides, another type of fat. In addition, trans may help inflame and stiffen the arteries. It may even increase the risk of type 2 diabetes, which ages the arteries.

 

Fausto

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Originally posted by: NuclearFusi0n
Originally posted by: Fausto1
Originally posted by: NuclearFusi0n
Originally posted by: Fausto1
FWIW- trans fat is really, really bad for you as fat goes. Banning foods containing it is absurd, but proper labeling is appropriate IMO.
It's the consumer's responsibility to be educated on the fat content of their foods. As long as it states the proper nutritional facts and ingredients, I see no need for a warning label. Is that what you are suggesting? I'm not understanding you fully.
No, not a warning label. I'm just saying that the label should indicate how much trans fat is in each serving of whatever food you're about to eat. Right now, you'll see total fat and saturated fat amounts listed, but not trans fats even though they're arguably worse for you than saturated fats.
I agree, making nutritional facts more indepth for every product can't hurt, but singling out products isn't the way to go. :)
Right. That's pretty much what I was getting at.

 

Hoober

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Originally posted by: Fausto1
Originally posted by: Hoober
What's the difference between trans fats and saturated/non?
Trans fats are usually listed as "partially hydrogenated". They seem to be a double whammy for your heart as they both increase "bad" LDL cholesterol and decrease "good" HDL cholesterol. It apparently does other fun stuff to you as well. Borrowed the following from a ConsumerReports article:

Large observational studies indicate that trans fat may increase the risk of heart disease considerably more than can be explained by its negative effects on cholesterol levels. To explain that gap, researchers note that trans fat clearly increases blood levels of two other suspected artery-clogging compounds: a fat-protein particle called lipoprotein(a) and triglycerides, another type of fat. In addition, trans may help inflame and stiffen the arteries. It may even increase the risk of type 2 diabetes, which ages the arteries.

Oh God, but they taste so good.
 

BatmanNate

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There oughta be a law...
rolleye.gif
 

Fausto

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Originally posted by: Hoober
Originally posted by: Fausto1
Originally posted by: Hoober
What's the difference between trans fats and saturated/non?
Trans fats are usually listed as "partially hydrogenated". They seem to be a double whammy for your heart as they both increase "bad" LDL cholesterol and decrease "good" HDL cholesterol. It apparently does other fun stuff to you as well. Borrowed the following from a ConsumerReports article:

Large observational studies indicate that trans fat may increase the risk of heart disease considerably more than can be explained by its negative effects on cholesterol levels. To explain that gap, researchers note that trans fat clearly increases blood levels of two other suspected artery-clogging compounds: a fat-protein particle called lipoprotein(a) and triglycerides, another type of fat. In addition, trans may help inflame and stiffen the arteries. It may even increase the risk of type 2 diabetes, which ages the arteries.

Oh God, but they taste so good.
Yep. They do.

Honestly, this wouldn't even be an issue if people would:

a. Not eat a whole bag every time they sit down (or eat McDonald's 5x per week, etc).

b. Exercise once in a while. Diet is not nearly as big a deal if you're not sedentary.

 

Fausto

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A summary of fats, where they're found and what they do to you.


Saturated

-Animal fats like read meat and chicken fat and skin. Butter, cheese and other high-fat dairy products, palm and coconut oil
-Raises LDL cholesterol levels, increases risk of heart disease, and may increase risk of colon and prostate cancer.


Trans Fatty Acid

-French fries and other deep fried food, stick margarine, shortening, packaged cookies and crackers, processed snacks and sweets.
-Raises LDL cholesterol levels, Lowers HDL levels, increases risk of heart disease, and may increase risk of breast cancer


Monounsaturated

-Olive, canola, and safflower oils, also avocados, olives, peanut butter (without added trans fatty acids), many kinds of nuts including almonds, cashews, pecans, pistachios.
-Lowers LDL levels, may help to reduce blood pressure and lower risk of developing cardiovascular disease, stroke and some cancers.


Omega-3 Fatty Acids

-Fatty fish such as salmon, white albacore tuna, mackerel, anchovies, sardines. Small amounts in walnut, flaxseed, canola and soybean oils. Dark green leafy vegetables.
-Reduces blood clotting and inflammation which both contribute to heart attacks and strokes. May reduce risk of some cancers.


Omega-6 Fatty Acids

-Corn, soybean and cottonseed oils. These are often found in mayonnaise, margarine and salad dressings.
-Lowers LDL levels, however, they may also lower HDL levels as well. May reduce risk of heart disease.



 

Hoober

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Originally posted by: Fausto1
Originally posted by: Hoober
Originally posted by: Fausto1
Originally posted by: Hoober
What's the difference between trans fats and saturated/non?
Trans fats are usually listed as "partially hydrogenated". They seem to be a double whammy for your heart as they both increase "bad" LDL cholesterol and decrease "good" HDL cholesterol. It apparently does other fun stuff to you as well. Borrowed the following from a ConsumerReports article:

Large observational studies indicate that trans fat may increase the risk of heart disease considerably more than can be explained by its negative effects on cholesterol levels. To explain that gap, researchers note that trans fat clearly increases blood levels of two other suspected artery-clogging compounds: a fat-protein particle called lipoprotein(a) and triglycerides, another type of fat. In addition, trans may help inflame and stiffen the arteries. It may even increase the risk of type 2 diabetes, which ages the arteries.

Oh God, but they taste so good.
Yep. They do.

Honestly, this wouldn't even be an issue if people would:

a. Not eat a whole bag every time they sit down (or eat McDonald's 5x per week, etc).

b. Exercise once in a while. Diet is not nearly as big a deal if you're not sedentary.

I agree. If you exercise regularly you really don't need to be too careful about what you eat. MickyD's five times a week isn't going to do anybody any good.
 

Eli

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Originally posted by: ATLien247
If they can ban MSG, why can't they ban Trans Fatty Acids?
Where is MSG banned? :confused:

Fausto1: What about polyunsaturated fats? :p
 

amnesiac

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Originally posted by: ATLien247
If they can ban MSG, why can't they ban Trans Fatty Acids?

MSG isn't banned, you goober.

The whole MSG scare is passed anyway. Many restaurants still use it now and it's in a damn good amount of foods you eat, labeled as "natural flavoring."

Test after test has showed that MSG headaches are a myth and while there may be a miniscule portion of the population that has an allergy to the stuff, they'd have allergy to tomatoes and other foods with MSG compounds naturally occuring as well. Most people who claim to have adverse reactions to MSG are incorrectly attributing their symptoms to this chemical.