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Bakery: No Rainbow cupcakes, homo!

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classy said:
Oh ok. So when you are going to let your best friend bust a couple of threads so you to can establish a lifelong bond. LOL

It is absolutely hilarious to see the total train wreck of nonsense people try to use to justify homosexual behavior.
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There is no need to justify homosexual behavior. I'm a hetero who does not want to have kids, therefore from my species' procreational imperative, I'm as useless as a homo. For me, sex is about pleasure and bonding with another person. Why on God's green earth should I care what anyone else does?
 
Geeez. Its' friggin cupcakes people. They found another vendor so that should be the end of it.


But noooooo - of course the supposed "victims" had to run to their pro-gay groups and the various news agencies to try to squash the vendor since thats' how liberalism works - if they disagree with you its just "free speech" etc. But if you disagree with them its "hate speech" and "intolerance" and they make a friggin' national story out of - cupcakes.
 
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JeffreyLebowski said:
Are you saying it isn't a choice?
Biologically, homosexuallity is wrong as it doesn't serve to pass on genes, only deside if the jeans look good or not.
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Biology isn't "right" or "wrong".. biology is biology. Homosexuality is as consistently found elsewhere in the animal kingdom as it is among us humans.

How about gays stop being gay. Accept that straight people don't approve and shouldn't have to approve of thier homosexual lifestyle choices.

But they won't, they think that everyone should accept them, even though they won't accept that others don't approve of their lifestyle.

I have my beliefs, you have yours. Don't try and force me to believe in what you believe in.
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I neither seek nor require the approval of others. But as far as that approval thing goes, you're on the losing side, I'm afraid. Homosexuality in America is generationally bound to be no more significant than being left-handed.
 
soccerballtux said:
Being black is not a choice of illogical, non-procreation. It also does not involve sticking one's penis into the ass of another man.

For these reasons, the comparison is of a completely different subject and does not belong in the same thread.
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Homosexuality is a choice? Well, that's fine.. you have as much of a right to be wrong as anyone else.
 
As for the bakery, I don't have a problem with them refusing to make rainbow cupcakes. I'm a better baker than them anyway, and I can make my own cupcakes.. rainbow or otherwise.

They can refuse whomever they want, as a private business. I've always found it more useful to vote with my wallet. The choice to refuse a customer is most punishable by taking your business elsewhere. All the words in the world aren't going to be as effective as that.
 
Just about any store has a sign somewhere in it, "We retain the right to refuse service to anyone at any time", or some such language.

That being said, all they would have to do is tell these people, "We're not interested in filling that order, have a nice day", and be entirely within their rights.

However, I'm pretty sure that if the gay & lesbian community then picketed that bakery, and said, "They refused to do this because they're against gays and lesbians", they would open themselves to a slander lawsuit.

So long as the owners of the bakery did not say, "we're not doing this because you're gay", then the customers have no leg to stand on.


IMHO, it really shouldn't be that difficult for the gay couple to order X number of cupcakes with white frosting, then put a rainbow pattern on them, using colored sugar or frosting. Idiots are making a big hullabaloo out of nothing!! 🙄
 
KDOG said:
Geeez. Its' friggin cupcakes people. They found another vendor so that should be the end of it.


But noooooo - of course the supposed "victims" had to run to their pro-gay groups and the various news agencies to try to squash the vendor since thats' how liberalism works - if they disagree with you its just "free speech" etc. But if you disagree with them its "hate speech" and "intolerance" and they make a friggin' national story out of - cupcakes.
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They were given the perfect opportunity for showing why their efforts are required.
 
marvdmartian said:
Just about any store has a sign somewhere in it, "We retain the right to refuse service to anyone at any time", or some such language.

That being said, all they would have to do is tell these people, "We're not interested in filling that order, have a nice day", and be entirely within their rights.

However, I'm pretty sure that if the gay & lesbian community then picketed that bakery, and said, "They refused to do this because they're against gays and lesbians", they would open themselves to a slander lawsuit.

So long as the owners of the bakery did not say, "we're not doing this because you're gay", then the customers have no leg to stand on.
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You appear to not have read the article sufficiently carefully either.

The bakery really DID pretty much say "we're not doing this order because they are gay."

From the article about the what the reporter learned after investigating and interviewing the husband of the family owned business:
Then we talked to her husband David, who gradually made it clear that there was an earlier order... and yes, the customer was refused.

"I explained we're a family-run business, we have two young, impressionable daughters and we thought maybe it was best not to do that," said co-owner David Stockton.
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That seems extremely clear the business was explicitly refused because of the gay pride aspect to it. Do you really think the concept of making any sort of cupcake is what worried them so much regarding their impressionable daughters? (Its not like the young daughters angle is a even remotely good excuse either because unless they are violating labor laws, their daughters would only be working at the business in the first place if they were 14 at a minimum, so it should be very easy to have concealed that they fulfilled such as order in the first place if they were younger if that aspect of things was really the concern they had.)

In your hypothetical situation if the bakery tried to sue them for slander they would lose badly. They could hypothetically argue in court that they really refused the order for other reasons than the husband mentioned to the reporter, but its highly unlikely a jury would buy that.
 
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classy said:
Many animals will kill and eat their own young. Dogs will eat their own poop at times. They eat their prey while its still alive. So are we too look at those natural things as well as a guide for normal behavior because its natural?
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I was waiting for someone to respond to this point.
 
classy said:
Many animals will kill and eat their own young. Dogs will eat their own poop at times. They eat their prey while its still alive. So are we too look at those natural things as well as a guide for normal behavior because its natural?
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No, of course not. We do, however, rule out the ridiculous reasoning that "our human behavior is unnatural and therefor we shouldn't do it" for those scenarios.
 
Robor said:
I'm a skeptical agnostic. Maybe there's something larger than us? I hope so. Maybe not? No one knows for sure. Either way, I don't need a god to tell me how to be a good person. Treat others like you would like to be treated. It's not that hard.

/removing the sig. Been there long enough.
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that's not my point. I'm asking why being responsible matters.

I wish you would keep it there in your sig. I want people to think about these difficult questions for themselves.
 
spittledip said:
classy said:
Many animals will kill and eat their own young. Dogs will eat their own poop at times. They eat their prey while its still alive. So are we too look at those natural things as well as a guide for normal behavior because its natural?
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I was waiting for someone to respond to this point.
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Without a God, yes; that is the only logical conclusion.
Of course nobody will ever come out and say this.
Because they know there has to be a God. Deep down.
They just choose to deny it.

For all the "logic" liberals claim to posses, they are strikingly hateful and spiteful against those who choose to believe in a God. If there isn't a God, why do they care? Why do they care if some people do not want to serve homocakes to homogays? They have no moral high ground to stand on. There is no reason anyone should not be allowed to do what they want.
 
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soccerballtux said:
Without a God, yes; that is the only logical conclusion.
Of course nobody will ever come out and say this.
Because they know there has to be a God. Deep down.
They just choose to deny it.

For all the "logic" liberals claim to posses, they are strikingly hateful and spiteful against those who choose to believe in a God. If there isn't a God, why do they care? Why do they care if some people do not want to serve homocakes to homogays? They have no moral high ground to stand on. There is no reason anyone should not be allowed to do what they want.
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Fail
 
soccerballtux said:
Without a God, yes; that is the only logical conclusion.
Of course nobody will ever come out and say this.
Because they know there has to be a God. Deep down.
They just choose to deny it.

For all the "logic" liberals claim to posses, they are strikingly hateful and spiteful against those who choose to believe in a God. If there isn't a God, why do they care? Why do they care if some people do not want to serve homocakes to homogays? They have no moral high ground to stand on. There is no reason anyone should not be allowed to do what they want.
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pathetic. Nobody cares that u go to church and believe in faeries. What we care is that YOU and YOUR kind are trying to inject YOUR particular form of magical belief into society. Go be ignorant on your own but don't try to shape the country into your little mindset.
 
I still don't get how people think that homosexuality is completely by choice. Did you choose to be straight? I didn't. I like women down at a level that I couldn't control if I tried. Why would gays be any different? Who would choose to be an outcast?
 
Chaotic42 said:
I still don't get how people think that homosexuality is completely by choice. Did you choose to be straight? I didn't. I like women down at a level that I couldn't control if I tried. Why would gays be any different? Who would choose to be an outcast?
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Did you choose your mate?
 
Chaotic42 said:
I don't think I could choose to have sex with another man and actually do it. I could wear green contacts, but that doesn't change the fact that I have blue eyes.
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I'm not talking about changing your physical appearances. Did you just randomly choose a mate or were you selective in your process?
 
her209 said:
I'm not talking about changing your physical appearances. Did you just randomly choose a mate or were you selective in your process?
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I chose my mate. So what? I chose from a selection of females. Males were not part of the equation for me. Thats exactly what being gay must be like except they are looking for the same sex.
 
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