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Baker Mayfield...

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If there was ever a doubt as to whether Mayfield would be a boom or a bust, this confirms it. Bust. Another guy that's too small, has attitude problems and no respect for authority.

The really shocking thing is that the Cleveland front office didn't find a way to trade up to get him. Even with the #1 pick I would have expected them to trade the #1, the #4 and their first round pick next year just to make sure they got him.
 
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Also doesn't include Osweiler, who they paid for (mostly) but didn't play.
 
I don't watch a ton of college football, so I won't pretend to say which team should take who. But Mayfield's only knock (and it's a big one) is his height. By every other metric he was the best QB in the draft. Hopefully they got it right because no team should be bad for that long.
 
KnightBreed said:
I don't watch a ton of college football, so I won't pretend to say which team should take who. But Mayfield's only knock (and it's a big one) is his height. By every other metric he was the best QB in the draft. Hopefully they got it right because no team should be bad for that long.
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Both Drew Brees and the Great Russell Wilson are shrimps. Is Mayfield smaller than those guys?
 
dasherHampton said:
lol You picked the only two good short ones in how long? A decade? Longer?

Seriously, though - if he has the mind and character of those two its a great pick.
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Well, that's a bad assumption of the data set. The problem is that there are actually very few diminutive QBs that ever really got a shot because of the "too short to be any good" stigma. So a nicely comparable N between the two populations was never able to be established and if anything, the success of Brees and Wilson should be more of a signal that some of these days do deserve a shot, and probably more of them did in the past. Obviously, the game is a bit different now, but there is nothing in the current game where smaller QBs could have actually had success in the 80s and forward with more pass-heavy, dink-and-dunk type offenses really taking hold, rather than only recently.

Honestly, (and this would certainly be affected by the skewed data set) but how many giant, perfect QBs flamed out for various reasons unrelated to size, compared to the short ones that were given a shot? Maybe it really isn't size? Charlie Ward won the Heisman at FSU but didn't even consider joining the NFL because of the size stigma. Granted, it's great that the guy was a phenomenal talent, so was able to be successful in the NBA, but that's long been a factor going in.

I don't know much about Mayfield because I don't broadly follow NCAA football, but I thought I read earlier that he has maturity/discipline problems? Whatever that means. ....I would think that if he really does have the tools, personality should be the bigger hangup with a guy like that, right? I mean....Ryan Leaf!
 
zinfamous said:
Both Drew Brees and the Great Russell Wilson are shrimps. Is Mayfield smaller than those guys?
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Brees is notable as an outlier. He's literally one in a million and he also never had the character red flags that Mayfield has. Wilson is not even in the same ballpark as Brees. He's been more of a "don't lose" quarterback, a guy that could be played to hopefully minimize turnovers and hit a few short passes while lettings the running game carry the offense. Seattle won despite Wilson, not because of him. That defense dominated and the ground game ran over people. Wilson is a middle tier QB, not an elite guy that can carry a team.
 
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