Originally posted by: ub4me
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,5944-626625,00.html
Originally posted by: KK
It'll be pretty tough, that's for sure. Good thing we got Basrah to practice on. That'll give the troops an idea on what to expect.
KK
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: ub4me
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,5944-626625,00.html
Good thing we only wish to liberate.
Originally posted by: Bleep
From what I have seen on the TV the Brits are great soldiers and no one can discount there bravery, I dont know how well equiped they are but other than the bad uniforms and boots they have done one hell of a job. My hat is off to them. England should be very proud of their troops.
Bleep
Originally posted by: mastertech01
Originally posted by: Bleep
From what I have seen on the TV the Brits are great soldiers and no one can discount there bravery, I dont know how well equiped they are but other than the bad uniforms and boots they have done one hell of a job. My hat is off to them. England should be very proud of their troops.
Bleep
Ditto, I have the greatest regard for what they have done. They are truly great partners in this effort and their sacrifices will be remembered!
Is the smiley in your post to say you are happy we killed a few of them?Yeah if only we could stop keep killing one or two of them ourselves.
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: ub4me
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,5944-626625,00.html
Good thing we only wish to liberate.
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: ub4me
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,5944-626625,00.html
Good thing we only wish to liberate.
The captive Iraqi boy who was asked why he fought so overwhelming a foe merely muttered: ?It?s my country.? The answer was worth a dozen Tomahawks.
Originally posted by: RossGr
The thought of urban combat in Baghdad is indeed horrifying, but the way things are unfolding, by the time the Republican Guard is defeated the Hi Tech 4th ID will be on the scene. Perhaps this is the job they will take the lead on. It is very important to remember the historic campaigns, such as Napoleon, Hitler and others. Each of these historic events contains lessons. I have confidence in our system to have LEARNED the lessons history has to offer.
I am afraid that the American military's infatuation with gee-whiz technology has caused them to ignore those lessons. They will need to enter the city, and when they do much of that technology will be negated.
Originally posted by: MadRat
I guess it should take them a week to surround Baghdad. Once Baghdad is under siege the war will drag on but in all reality its over for Saddam and the Ba`ath party.
Originally posted by: RossGr
I would say that you should learn to expect the unexpected from this war, so far, from what I can see, the Iraqis have been out manuverd at every turn. Why should we expect that to change?
There would be no acts of politics or treachery without acts of war.But history says Baghdad will fall from an act of politics or treachery, not an act of war.
In the past two weeks I must have seen a hundred maps, diagrams, military handouts and computer graphics. I have watched men in fatigues with whizz-bang videos of soaring missiles and exploding tanks. Each explains how war is won in the open. Not one explained how Baghdad is to be defeated.
Originally posted by: jaeger66
Originally posted by: MadRat
I guess it should take them a week to surround Baghdad. Once Baghdad is under siege the war will drag on but in all reality its over for Saddam and the Ba`ath party.
The coalition will not lay siege to the city. It won't do to starve the Iraquis while saying you're "liberating" them. They have no choice but to go in and clean up the mess one block at a time.
Huh? What are you talking about? Baghdad will greet us an invading army, not as liberators. Get a clue.
Originally posted by: jaeger66
Originally posted by: RossGr
I would say that you should learn to expect the unexpected from this war, so far, from what I can see, the Iraqis have been out manuverd at every turn. Why should we expect that to change?
As one of the generals on CNN put it, when you plan a war you plan for the worst case scenario that is still within the realm of possibility. In his opinion, the coalition did not do that. They thought the Iraqis with throw down their weapons, open their arms to us, and that the regime would just collapse. Well, that didn't happen. And once we enter Baghdad it will come down to good old fashioned hand to hand combat. And the Iraqis will not be bound by any of our political concerns.