B3 vs G0 stepping on Q6600

[swtethan]

well i just wanted to know where 35c idle was from, looks like its not possible

 

[Tboy012]

am i the only one noticing that the 1st ss of toadster on the
cpu-z showed qx6800 @ 333.3 * 10 and his SS of
coretemp showed qx6700 @ 555.49 * 6

so which are you trying to show us toad? i hate to become thinking otherwise

 

[Blacklash]

I may have results from my Xeon X3220 late this evening. Day-um Newegg is fast. I ordered Tuesday and according to my tracking number my CPU is the area on the truck for delivery today.

On a side note, I have heard the EVGA 680i A1 mobo does well with quad cores. I am going to test my Xeon in this BX2 and likely wait on the X38.

 

[Toadster]

Originally posted by: Tboy012
am i the only one noticing that the 1st ss of toadster on the
cpu-z showed qx6800 @ 333.3 * 10 and his SS of
coretemp showed qx6700 @ 555.49 * 6

so which are you trying to show us toad? i hate to become thinking otherwise

it must be a difference in how coretemp is reading things - i have the BIOS set to 333 x 10

PC Wizard 2007 sees it as a QX6700 as well, maybe the applications need some updating for the newer steppings?

 

[Markfw]

BTW, I can simulate that exact thing, 3.3 ghz on 1.2 vcore under load for 5 minutes easily... But I had to go down to 3.1 to be loaded 24/7 for 3 days stable with no EEU in F@H. I still am not impressed with the G0 of Toadsters. Also, I am sunning 68c under load, not 70. And my FSB is 442 x 7. (actually 1774 FSB)

Edit: and I just saw that 10x 333 means that is a Q6700 (or QX) not a Q6600, so even less impressive. Duvie can do that with his B3 QX6700 easily. at lass temps on air.

 

[Toadster]

Originally posted by: Markfw900
BTW, I can simulate that exact thing, 3.3 ghz on 1.2 vcore under load for 5 minutes easily... But I had to go down to 3.1 to be loaded 24/7 for 3 days stable with no EEU in F@H. I still am not impressed with the G0 of Toadsters. Also, I am sunning 68c under load, not 70. And my FSB is 442 x 7. (actually 1774 FSB)

"Your Schwartz is as big as mine!"

I'll admit, I need to upgrade my cooler, the CNPS9500 does pretty well, but I could save a few more C's if I upgraded... for the summer though, I usually shut my PC down more often rather than change my HVAC system

 

[Tboy012]

Originally posted by: Toadster

Originally posted by: Tboy012
am i the only one noticing that the 1st ss of toadster on the
cpu-z showed qx6800 @ 333.3 * 10 and his SS of
coretemp showed qx6700 @ 555.49 * 6

so which are you trying to show us toad? i hate to become thinking otherwise

it must be a difference in how coretemp is reading things - i have the BIOS set to 333 x 10

PC Wizard 2007 sees it as a QX6700 as well, maybe the applications need some updating for the newer steppings?

so you have the qx6800? you should put that on your sig to let others know what you have.. instead of just putting core 2 quad... everyone has the tendency to think everyone is talking bout a q6600

 

[Markfw]

Originally posted by: Toadster

Originally posted by: Markfw900
BTW, I can simulate that exact thing, 3.3 ghz on 1.2 vcore under load for 5 minutes easily... But I had to go down to 3.1 to be loaded 24/7 for 3 days stable with no EEU in F@H. I still am not impressed with the G0 of Toadsters. Also, I am sunning 68c under load, not 70. And my FSB is 442 x 7. (actually 1774 FSB)

"Your Schwartz is as big as mine!"

I'll admit, I need to upgrade my cooler, the CNPS9500 does pretty well, but I could save a few more C's if I upgraded... for the summer though, I usually shut my PC down more often rather than change my HVAC system

My point was to address the subject of this post: How much better is the G0 than the B3, and I have seen no proof yet that it is substantially better. And one of my B3's was perfect for 5 days at 3.2, then decided to get some EEu's. They could have been normal, but I don't really care about the extra 100 mhz, so I am just leaving it at 3.1 to be safe.

 

[adairusmc]

Originally posted by: swtethan
well i just wanted to know where 35c idle was from, looks like its not possible

I am getting 32-34C idle on my b3 e6600, at stock. It is possible.

 

[Thor86]

Well, I just jumped on the bandwagon for these Q6600 sale at NCIX, so hopefully I get a G0 stepping and see what it can do.

 

[Skyguy]

Thanks Mark for getting the thread back on topic

Anyone here have a G0?? It *seems* the B3's can do 3.0-3.2 depending on your cooling (my Swiftech will do just fine), and those speeds are nothing to be ashamed of. Honestly, you get the best of both worlds.....high clocks (slightly higher than a stock 6850) for good framerates in games, plus the extra cores that'll slaughter CPU-intensive tasks. Heck, I consider that a WIN-WIN

For 200 extra MHz (maybe), I wonder if the G0's are actually worth waiting for.

 

[swtethan]

Originally posted by: adairusmc

Originally posted by: swtethan
well i just wanted to know where 35c idle was from, looks like its not possible

I am getting 32-34C idle on my b3 e6600, at stock. It is possible.

You're also not pushing two extra cores.

 

[Markfw]

Originally posted by: Skyguy
Thanks Mark for getting the thread back on topic

Anyone here have a G0?? It *seems* the B3's can do 3.0-3.2 depending on your cooling (my Swiftech will do just fine), and those speeds are nothing to be ashamed of. Honestly, you get the best of both worlds.....high clocks (slightly higher than a stock 6850) for good framerates in games, plus the extra cores that'll slaughter CPU-intensive tasks. Heck, I consider that a WIN-WIN

For 200 extra MHz (maybe), I wonder if the G0's are actually worth waiting for.

Yup, I have made that point many times.....And I still see no real proof (not 2 reviews, I want 100 users feedback) that they are in fact much better. Toadsters data here on a higher clocked G0 certainly doesn;t prove it.

 

[Toadster]

Originally posted by: Markfw900
Yup, I have made that point many times.....And I still see no real proof (not 2 reviews, I want 100 users feedback) that they are in fact much better. Toadsters data here on a higher clocked G0 certainly doesn;t prove it.

I have to remind that my room isn't the greatest for cooling either, my PC is tucked under a desk in the corner and basically re-breathes the hot air bouncing off the wall behind it as it wraps around the desk... I believe that a Q6600 G0 could run very easily at 35c idle, you have to remember that my box is clocked up and sucking hot air... (78-80F in my room)

i had my previous B3 Q6600 running 3.3GHz w/1066FSB in the mid-upper 20's (at idle) at a local LAN party where there was MUCH better airflow - high temps were in the upper 50's then...

don't ask me to post proof pics, that was last month

 

[Capt Caveman]

People are just getting their G0's and you'll be seeing folks post their results. For example - http://www.xtremesystems.org/f...howthread.php?t=152722

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: Toadster

Originally posted by: Markfw900
Yup, I have made that point many times.....And I still see no real proof (not 2 reviews, I want 100 users feedback) that they are in fact much better. Toadsters data here on a higher clocked G0 certainly doesn;t prove it.

I have to remind that my room isn't the greatest for cooling either, my PC is tucked under a desk in the corner and basically re-breathes the hot air bouncing off the wall behind it as it wraps around the desk... I believe that a Q6600 G0 could run very easily at 35c idle, you have to remember that my box is clocked up and sucking hot air... (78-80F in my room)

i had my previous B3 Q6600 running 3.3GHz w/1066FSB in the mid-upper 20's (at idle) at a local LAN party where there was MUCH better airflow - high temps were in the upper 50's then...

don't ask me to post proof pics, that was last month

Where the hell are you getting the voltage?

Im sorry but my ES couldnt even do 3.3 @ 1.2Vcore.

CPU-Z DOES NOT REPORT THE CORRECT VCORE 100%. WHAT is your VCORE that BIOS PC health shows.

Core 2 Quad (G0) @ 3.33GHz @ 1.05v <---- i seriously have to question this


SEE for yourself:

The REAL VCORE is listed in my NVMonitor. 1.55V that translate after vdroop to be 1.49Vcore.


DONT POST UP BS STATS, because you'll CONFUSE the hell out of newbies on this forum. If you want to state that, then my B3 Chip does 3.6GHZ @ 1.175Vcore.

Also, your post shows your VID to be 1.3V Your chip is straight up a hotter running chip compared to my B3 which has a VID much lower then yours at 1.2875.

Theres no way you can do 333fsb @ 1.05Vcore. If it did, then your chip is super cherry picked, even more so then my ES.

http://i125.photobucket.com/al...73/aigomorla/Q6600.jpg

 

[swtethan]

nvm!

 

[Toadster]

Originally posted by: aigomorla

Originally posted by: Toadster

Originally posted by: Markfw900
Yup, I have made that point many times.....And I still see no real proof (not 2 reviews, I want 100 users feedback) that they are in fact much better. Toadsters data here on a higher clocked G0 certainly doesn;t prove it.

I have to remind that my room isn't the greatest for cooling either, my PC is tucked under a desk in the corner and basically re-breathes the hot air bouncing off the wall behind it as it wraps around the desk... I believe that a Q6600 G0 could run very easily at 35c idle, you have to remember that my box is clocked up and sucking hot air... (78-80F in my room)

i had my previous B3 Q6600 running 3.3GHz w/1066FSB in the mid-upper 20's (at idle) at a local LAN party where there was MUCH better airflow - high temps were in the upper 50's then...

don't ask me to post proof pics, that was last month

Where the hell are you getting the voltage?

Im sorry but my ES couldnt even do 3.3 @ 1.2Vcore.

CPU-Z DOES NOT REPORT THE CORRECT VCORE 100%. WHAT is your VCORE that BIOS PC health shows.

Core 2 Quad (G0) @ 3.33GHz @ 1.05v <---- i seriously have to question this


SEE for yourself:

The REAL VCORE is listed in my NVMonitor. 1.55V that translate after vdroop to be 1.49Vcore.


DONT POST UP BS STATS, because you'll CONFUSE the hell out of newbies on this forum. If you want to state that, then my Chip does 3.6GHZ @ 1.175Vcore.

http://i125.photobucket.com/al...73/aigomorla/Q6600.jpg

You're correct at 3.33GHz the vcore was 1.2v, at 2.0GHz (EIST clocked) it was 1.05v
if I use CoreTemp - i see around 1.31v

I'm simply posting the screen snaps from what the tools are reporting, if you have different standards then so be it - I'm not that highly involved in overclocking everyday - I got a good bump in speed and I'm happy with it.

Sure there are some fanboys looking to get 4GHz and brag about it - but there will be 100 people standing there to either knock it or doubt it. Either way 3.33GHz on a G0 is fast...

 

[RussianSensation]

Originally posted by: Shimmishim

if you're in canada, NCIX is the best place to order from as most people (after they went out of stock last week) have been getting G0's and has been confirmed in their invoices with the presence of the SLACR part number.

But if you order from NCIX US site, would you also be likely to receive a G0 stepping?

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: Toadster

Originally posted by: aigomorla

Originally posted by: Toadster

Originally posted by: Markfw900
Yup, I have made that point many times.....And I still see no real proof (not 2 reviews, I want 100 users feedback) that they are in fact much better. Toadsters data here on a higher clocked G0 certainly doesn;t prove it.

I have to remind that my room isn't the greatest for cooling either, my PC is tucked under a desk in the corner and basically re-breathes the hot air bouncing off the wall behind it as it wraps around the desk... I believe that a Q6600 G0 could run very easily at 35c idle, you have to remember that my box is clocked up and sucking hot air... (78-80F in my room)

i had my previous B3 Q6600 running 3.3GHz w/1066FSB in the mid-upper 20's (at idle) at a local LAN party where there was MUCH better airflow - high temps were in the upper 50's then...

don't ask me to post proof pics, that was last month

Where the hell are you getting the voltage?

Im sorry but my ES couldnt even do 3.3 @ 1.2Vcore.

CPU-Z DOES NOT REPORT THE CORRECT VCORE 100%. WHAT is your VCORE that BIOS PC health shows.

Core 2 Quad (G0) @ 3.33GHz @ 1.05v <---- i seriously have to question this


SEE for yourself:

The REAL VCORE is listed in my NVMonitor. 1.55V that translate after vdroop to be 1.49Vcore.


DONT POST UP BS STATS, because you'll CONFUSE the hell out of newbies on this forum. If you want to state that, then my Chip does 3.6GHZ @ 1.175Vcore.

http://i125.photobucket.com/al...73/aigomorla/Q6600.jpg

You're correct at 3.33GHz the vcore was 1.2v, at 2.0GHz (EIST clocked) it was 1.05v
if I use CoreTemp - i see around 1.31v

I'm simply posting the screen snaps from what the tools are reporting, if you have different standards then so be it - I'm not that highly involved in overclocking everyday - I got a good bump in speed and I'm happy with it.

Sure there are some fanboys looking to get 4GHz and brag about it - but there will be 100 people standing there to either knock it or doubt it. Either way 3.33GHz on a G0 is fast...

So your telling me your running a QX6800 which is vendor only because of the amount of heat it pushes, is running 333x10fsb @ 1.2Vcore.

Im sorry, i have to call shins on this statement. I would like a speedfan screenshot with voltages laid out on the bottom. This will tell us a real answer on your vcore. Im guessing your vcore is much higher then 1.2v for your idle/load temps to be that high on a 9500.

 

[swtethan]

tiramisu @ XS has his G0 @ 3.4ghz air right now, looks like he wants go further

 

[Skyguy]

Bit-Tech just posted here, I think it's B3 numbers:

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardwa...el_core_2_quad_q6600/1

 

[Toadster]

Originally posted by: aigomorla
So your telling me your running a QX6800 which is vendor only because of the amount of heat it pushes, is running 333x10fsb @ 1.2Vcore.

Im sorry, i have to call shins on this statement. I would like a speedfan screenshot with voltages laid out on the bottom. This will tell us a real answer on your vcore. Im guessing your vcore is much higher then 1.2v for your idle/load temps to be that high on a 9500.

I posted this on the first page
http://i14.tinypic.com/524d112.jpg

1.3125 volts at 3.33GHz

and now you'll say - ok, so run that 24x7 for 3 weeks and report back...

 

[Skyguy]

3.4 ghz, G0, on air, good temps:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/f...p=2329759&postcount=17

DAYUM. Lovin that.

 

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