AWESOME update for CS:S

Trevelyan

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Finally! SV_PURE has been released officially by Valve for Counter-Strike:Source!

Let me give you some history... Basically, before the June 12th update, all of the textures for maps, models, weapons, etc. for CS:S are editable. You can simply put your custom texture in your cstrike\materials folder and it will be used in-game. Now, this was fine for custom weapons, even custom player models, but you can even do this for all the level textures. Naturally, people starting using "custom textures" for all the textures in a level with a 50% transparency on them --- instant wallhack. Not only this, but it's not considered an exploit by VAC (since it doesn't edit the .EXE or .DLL files), so no one is banned for this type of wallhack.

See a video of this type of wallhack here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGzQ4rUXtdk

But no more! Valve has FINALLY released a new server setting called sv_pure, which allows servers to specify whether custom textures are allowed at all. You allow no custom textures/models, or allow only specific textures to be changed. AND, if you happen to have custom textures anyways, and join a server with sv_pure enabled, it will automatically use the default textures... so you don't have to change anything!

This is a fantastic update, since now the vast majority of the various wall hacks out there will no longer work. Thank you Valve! This has been a long time coming...

More info here: http://forums.steampowered.com...howthread.php?t=567919

Steam Wiki: http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Pure_Servers

Find a server that uses sv_pure=2: http://www.game-monitor.com/se...variable&game=cstrike2
 

jjzelinski

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Wow I had no idea there was such a simple exploit out here, makes me wonder how much I've run into little a$$holes using it.

Now this won't affect different game types like GG will it>?
 

Cabages

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Originally posted by: jjzelinski
Wow I had no idea there was such a simple exploit out here, makes me wonder how much I've run into little a$$holes using it.

Now this won't affect different game types like GG will it>?

Me neither.

Now that I think about its, ive probly been fvcked over a lot by these sorts of people. Ive noticed people always seeming to have a prettty good idea where I was, but whenever I bring it up it seems the people are regulars on the server, and I just about get banned for bringing it up.
 

gramboh

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I've seen idiots obviously using this in gungame mod servers. I just wish the June 12 update would have forced serves to use SV_Pure 2 by default.
 

mulletgut

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Is there a way to know if a server is running pure through the steam server browser? Other than looking for something in the server name?
 

Genx87

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Funny, I played the game for 8 months and didnt even know about the ability to change the textures. I always wondered how people were able to know I was coming around a corner and not be banned :D

Might have to give CS:S another try, it was actually kind of fun.
 

Trevelyan

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Originally posted by: mulletgut
Is there a way to know if a server is running pure through the steam server browser? Other than looking for something in the server name?

No, not that I'm aware of. I was hoping they would have something like that.

I've known about this exploit for a long time, and its so infuriating. Why in the world are people allowed to customized the textures in a map anyways? Such a stupid move IMO.

Anyways, this should get rid of the majority of wall hackers...
 

mad0maxx

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Cheats were rampant in Counter-Strike and in the future they will always be rampant in Counter-Strike... me I just quit playing the game and move on to something else...
 

Fenixgoon

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wow i didn't even know about this. that is insane! glad to see there's been some sort of fix to it
 

AnMig

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This would explain my 1:2 kill death ratio :) (I wish)

I usaully do a preemtive fire when I round a corner specially when I think someone is rounding the corner (reflexes are not that quick). I can see someone accusing me of wall hacking for firing even before I see him.


Glad Valve is addresing the issue. I will surely dominate the CS world now.


Also I did not know this hack existed.
 

potato28

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Originally posted by: mad0maxx
Cheats were rampant in Counter-Strike and in the future they will always be rampant in Counter-Strike... me I just quit playing the game and move on to something else...

If you play on well moderated servers it isn't as bad as you think. Or play on private servers.
 

Trevelyan

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Originally posted by: jjzelinski
Wow I had no idea there was such a simple exploit out here, makes me wonder how much I've run into little a$$holes using it.

Now this won't affect different game types like GG will it>?

Mods are still playable, yes.

What's really funny is that this type of exploit is extremely common, mainly because its completely undetectable, and any noob can use it. Every time people on SteamPowered.com forums talk like, "There aren't that many cheaters... you guys just suck" I can't help but shake my head... so many people have no clue how rampant this kind of cheat is.

But potato28 is right about well moderated servers being better... you can find good servers without hackers, but the fact is, even there, admins can only kick the obvious cheaters. Wallhacking with transparent textures is not necessarily easy to spot.... this update gets rid of the guess work, and makes it an even playing field for everyone.
 

Modular

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Wow.

Now they should just make the game not suck...

Good luck with that.

This game is so full of haxes that it's stupid to even play. Even if you are in a "fair" server, they seem to care more about voice modifications than hot boxes...biggest waste of $$ on my part ever, even if it was only 19.99
 

potato28

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Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
anybody know any good pure servers...i havent been able to find any.

Most of the good servers that don't have problems won't advertise the sv_pure 2. If you like office Office1 Webkillers is regularly moderated and has sv_pure 2.
 

tigersty1e

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When I first started playing CS 1.2 or 1.3 (back in the day), I had trouble distunguising between the t and ct models. So I downloaded some custom glowing skins for the t. They were big cartoon characters like Bugs Bunny and they glowed so dark hiding spots didn't work with me.

I eventually got rid of them because they took away from the fun aspect of the gameplay.

But I knew people used them. Good thing this is here.
 
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Originally posted by: potato28
Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
anybody know any good pure servers...i havent been able to find any.

Most of the good servers that don't have problems won't advertise the sv_pure 2. If you like office Office1 Webkillers is regularly moderated and has sv_pure 2.

i've been playing at a office webkillers server. do you also play there?
 

doggyfromplanetwoof

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Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
Originally posted by: potato28
Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
anybody know any good pure servers...i havent been able to find any.

Most of the good servers that don't have problems won't advertise the sv_pure 2. If you like office Office1 Webkillers is regularly moderated and has sv_pure 2.

i've been playing at a office webkillers server. do you also play there?

ya I play on one of them, they have like 4 servers.
 

potato28

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Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
Originally posted by: potato28
Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
anybody know any good pure servers...i havent been able to find any.

Most of the good servers that don't have problems won't advertise the sv_pure 2. If you like office Office1 Webkillers is regularly moderated and has sv_pure 2.

i've been playing at a office webkillers server. do you also play there?

depends on the time, but their my usual servers.
 

potato28

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Originally posted by: doggyfromplanetwoof
Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
Originally posted by: potato28
Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
anybody know any good pure servers...i havent been able to find any.

Most of the good servers that don't have problems won't advertise the sv_pure 2. If you like office Office1 Webkillers is regularly moderated and has sv_pure 2.

i've been playing at a office webkillers server. do you also play there?

ya I play on one of them, they have like 4 servers.

They have 10 in total, but i can only seem to find 4... maybe the other 6 aren't 24/7 office.
 

Ika

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Wow, I had no idea. maybe that's why my KDR was unusually low and has only just started to rise.
 

LittleNemoNES

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I always sucked @ this and always felt like my actions were pre-empted. I'll give the game another go since I won't have any more excuses.

BTW, did this work with other mods like insurgency?
 
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i play on office9...if you want to find all of them then put cs office in your map filter and sort the list by name...all their servers start with 24/7