Autozone employee FIRED after defending store from armed robbery!!

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SKORPI0

Lifer
Jan 18, 2000
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Someone wanted to play the hero without thinking of what the possible outcome could be. It's is always best/safe to call the police after the robbers leave and let the police handle it. Not you or the company. This SOP is there for a reason.

1. Robber killed/injured while leaving the scene of the crime. Family sues hero wannabe and business owner.
2. Hero is killed/injured in the pursuit of the robber. Family sues business owner.

Better safe than sorry. Don't escalate the situation and make matters worse. ^_^
 
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darkewaffle

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Thus you see why the rest of us find you, and your chosen profession, to be the scum of the Earth. This kid saved a man's life, and thwarted a robbery, and because of some potential litigation for the company he loses his job. Our legal system is complete trash.

I think he put the guy's life at risk more than he saved it personally.
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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Because now the company is on TV and in the papers and all over the internet, advertising the fact that they're an easy mark. Criminals will see that, and go there instead of taking an unknown risk at another business, where the owner might be armed or disinclined to cooperate by handing over the cash.

This puts all Autozone employees at a higher risk than they otherwise would have faced.

right. What he is saying though teh rules Autozone has is SOP with EVERY retailer. it puts the store at huge risk to have ANYONE fight back. they have insurance to cover what the person stole.

Having a person allowed to fight back is far far more dangerous then how it is now. Now it's the thief knows they can't fight back so they go in and steal everything. nobody gets hurt. If people start fighting back they are going to walk in shoot then steal. more people are going to get hurt.

the safest (both legally and for people) is to have as it is now. stand back, give them the money, and try to remember everything you can.
 

Tweak155

Lifer
Sep 23, 2003
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I think he put the guy's life at risk more than he saved it personally.

This.

You can run a stop sign safely in a lot of instances, but the stop sign is (partly) there to prevent the times when you'd run into another vehicle.

Useless more often than useful, but you should follow it every time.
 

Dari

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Oct 25, 2002
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yeah..im going with you didn't understand it. because what you quoted and said make no sense at all.

Jaskalas cynical view of America is that the bad make out like bandits while the strong and law-abiding are hindered by PC and laws that sees the aggressor as the victim. Him saying that the robber will win the day and the employees will be hindered by our laws is "SOP" after asking a sarcastic "How?" is just him seeing the "decline" and "pussification" of America. He's no different from the Pat Buchanan type who see America as going down and where weakness is strength and strength is weakness. If you follow his post, it's hard not to come to the same conclusion.

My argument to him is that this is how things have always been in America. Justice may be slow but it does come in a country with strong property rights and an excellent justice system.

Of course, I could be wrong and I read more into him than into what he wrote. Sometimes, I cannot differentiate between the two and zero in on the meaning behind the statement. If I misread him, let him correct me.
 
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QueBert

Lifer
Jan 6, 2002
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I work at a store and was robbed at gun point, we have a pistol behind the counter but I just gave up the money without going for it. Both police who showed up and the 1 that followed up with a call to me the next day all said I did the right thing. I asked all 3 about this, and none said they'd never recommend a person in my situation playing hero.
 

JulesMaximus

No Lifer
Jul 3, 2003
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Meh, I can understand how a store would have a no weapons policy and instruct employees not to get into altercations with customers. Huge risk potenital for allowing employees to take the law into their own hands.
 

saratoga172

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Most businesses train employees as such. You don't antagonize a burglar, the most important thing is getting them out the door with nobody getting hurt as soon as possible.

This is true.

When I worked retail one of our training videos covered robbery. Basically suit back and let then take what they wanted. We were told we could be terminated for trying to stop a robber. It was all part of the liability the store had and they had insurance to cover loss.
 

TechAZ

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Sep 8, 2007
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In the real world, minimum wage employees should not take any action.

In my utopia world, the employee would be highly trained and put 2 between the robbers eyes every single time.
 

rh71

No Lifer
Aug 28, 2001
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Completely disagree. Employees running to their cars to tote guns into the workplace to inflame a situation is no way to run a business. The counter jockeys are not trained with firearms and nobody wants to be in a situation where some asshole who subscribes to Soldier of Fortune sees a chance to get his name in the paper and gets the customers caught in a crossfire. Hand over the money calmly, get the guy out of the store with the least chance of some innocent bystander getting shot and then let the police handle it.

this all the way...

People say CCWs are for protecting themselves from life or death situations. Many times including examples of "good thing this guy was a CCW holder" videos, it's not life or death and they still pull their weapon out, maybe to protect OTHER people and maybe not even themselves. This guy ran out, retrieved a weapon, and confronted the guy, escalating the situation.
 
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Theb

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Feb 28, 2006
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It's not like this is the first time a store has ever been robbed. This situation has been studied and considered and the safest cheapest strategy has been determined for a long time.

If you're going to boycott stores that would've fired him I hope you don't find yourself needing anything from any chain store.
 

lupi

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Apr 8, 2001
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When I worked at a fast food joint in high school I made the district manager a little mad when I got robbed. I managed to put only a little bit of money from the safe into a bag to get the guy out of the store so I could lock it up. Wasn't enough for them to take an insurance claim against it and they had to pay to install a silent alarm to keep rates from going up.
 

dabuddha

Lifer
Apr 10, 2000
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Emailed their corporate office letting them know I won't be spending another dime at Autozone anymore.
 

sixone

Lifer
May 3, 2004
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Assuming everything you say is true, it doesn't change the fact that the business will not be legally liable should something go wrong.

Not until an employee is injured or killed while following corporate policy to the letter. Then all bets are off.
 

GagHalfrunt

Lifer
Apr 19, 2001
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Emailed their corporate office letting them know I won't be spending another dime at Autozone anymore.

I emailed them thanking them for getting a dangerous loose cannon of an employee out of the store so customers will be safer the next time there's a robbery and let them know they'll get more of my business.

That's a wash.
 

KLin

Lifer
Feb 29, 2000
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i emailed them thanking them for getting a dangerous loose cannon of an employee out of the store so customers will be safer the next time there's a robbery and let them know they'll get more of my business.

That's a wash.

LMFAo!!!
 

dabuddha

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I emailed them thanking them for getting a dangerous loose cannon of an employee out of the store so customers will be safer the next time there's a robbery and let them know they'll get more of my business.

That's a wash.

Difference is my email sounds sincere while your email just sounds retarded given the circumstances.

/shrug