Autozone employee FIRED after defending store from armed robbery!!

[AMDZen]

I'm sure if this guy had killed or injured a customer(someone you know) but thwarted the robbery, you'd be saying the same thing.

Right because thats the same thing. What if what if what if. Lets just play out every what if scenario that "could have" happened but didn't so that we exhaust every side of the story that could possibly have came up.

What if your mom had an abortion

 

[Capt Caveman]

Right because thats the same thing. What if what if what if. Lets just play out every what if scenario that "could have" happened but didn't so that we exhaust every side of the story that could possibly have came up.

What if your mom had an abortion

Wow, you're a dumbass. But then again you thought Tebow was going to bring you to the promise land. :biggrin:

Ok, so companies should have polices where employee's are given discretion to thwart robberies and they're heroes if nobody get's hurt but if customers/employees get hurt, they shouldn't have done it and we'll fire you.

Sounds like a good policy to have!

 

[AMDZen]

Wow, you're a dumbass. But then again you thought Tebow was going to bring you to the promise land. :biggrin:

Ok, so companies should have polices where employee's are given discretion to thwart robberies and they're heroes if nobody get's hurt but if customers/employees get hurt, they shouldn't have done it and we'll fire you.

Sounds like a good policy to have!

No, you're a dumbass.

Childish prick

 

[dabuddha]

Wow, you're a dumbass. But then again you thought Tebow was going to bring you to the promise land. :biggrin:

Ok, so companies should have polices where employee's are given discretion to thwart robberies and they're heroes if nobody get's hurt but if customers/employees get hurt, they shouldn't have done it and we'll fire you.

Sounds like a good policy to have!

Don't believe anyone said that here. What we're saying is he should not have been fired. That was a stupid mistake on autozone's part. You don't fire heroes

 

[Theb]

This is Autozone, a DIY guy's place to go when working on his toy. This is a great marketing opportunity for whomever is Autozone's best competition in the area that this guy lives in, to announce that they are hiring this guy and that they support his heroism.

They could end up winning over a large percentage of people that would have otherwise shopped at Autozone.

Make it even more of a PR nightmare for them. O'Riley or whomever is in the area of this person needs to act quickly and hire this dude because, fuck Autozone

This will probably happen. You should get really excited about this idea.

False.

False.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Don't believe anyone said that here. What we're saying is he should not have been fired. That was a stupid mistake on autozone's part. You don't fire heroes

Then you would be condoning what he did which is against company policy. Nothing deters another employee of trying to do the same thing. Let's hope if it does happen again, the ending is the same.

 

[KeithP]

Most stores tell employees to not fight back. They have insurance policies that cover theft, and it reduces the risk of the employee getting hurt.

This. He could have escalated the situation and got innocent people killed or injured. Not only would that have sucked had it happened, those injured folks would have turned around and sued AutoZone.

No question, he did the wrong thing.

-KeithP

 

[KeithTalent]

The definition of the word "hero" sure seems to have changed over the years.

KT

 

[dabuddha]

The definition of the word "hero" sure seems to have changed over the years.

KT

More like with the continued pussification of America, people have forgotten what a hero is.

 

[darkewaffle]

Don't believe anyone said that here. What we're saying is he should not have been fired. That was a stupid mistake on autozone's part. You don't fire heroes

Except for every "hero" there's a multitude of "tried to be heroes" who ended up fucking up themselves or someone else in the process. The more people that try to be heroes, that more people that fail and end up making things worse.

He's not a hero, he's just a jackass who happened to roll the dice at the right time.

 

[KeithTalent]

More like with the continued pussification of America, people have forgotten what a hero is.

More like with the continued pussification of America, anyone performing some random act of stupidity is dubbed a hero. Just as these days anyone who makes an off-colour joke is considered the worst human being to ever have existed.

Hyperbole abounds.

KT

 

[spidey07]

Except for every "hero" there's a multitude of "tried to be heroes" who ended up fucking up themselves or someone else in the process. The more people that try to be heroes, that more people that fail and end up making things worse.

He's not a hero, he's just a jackass who happened to roll the dice at the right time.

Care to show a story where a CCW holder harmed an innocent person?

You're "there will be blood in the streets" is false, not true, made up and a lie.

 

[OBLAMA2009]

To say no good deed goes unpunished would be an understatment..
http://wtkr.com/2012/11/30/autozone-employee-fired-after-taking-action-against-fake-beard-bandit/

Man fsck Autozone! If that's how they take care of their own I'll never step foot in there again.

(Sorry if a repost - Sorry if it's P&N, but didn't figure it was political enough for that crowd)

imagine if this employee had gotten someone shot, which is far more likely than this outcome. i guarantee you the family would be suing autozone now, saying they had a dangerous work environment. thats why they have that policy and why this guy should be fired. theyre just protecting their business. the amount of cash someone could steal isnt worth a persons life, duh

 

[spidey07]

imagine if this employee had gotten someone shot, which is far more likely than this outcome. i guarantee you the family would be suing autozone now, saying they had a dangerous work environment. thats why they have that policy and why this guy should be fired. theyre just protecting their business. the amount of cash someone could steal isnt worth a persons life, duh

Care to post a story where that has happened if you think it's far more likely than this outcome? Because I can post stories all day long similar to this one (clerk uses weapon to stop or kill robber), I doubt you'll be able to find a single incident of what you think "might happen" actually did.

 

[OBLAMA2009]

Care to post a story where that has happened if you think it's far more likely than this outcome? Because I can post stories all day long similar to this one (clerk uses weapon to stop or kill robber), I doubt you'll be able to find a single incident of what you think "might happen" actually did.

you really think i cant find stories of people getting shot by robbers when they refuse to hand over money?

 

[SKORPI0]

Don't believe anyone said that here. What we're saying is he should not have been fired. That was a stupid mistake on autozone's part. You don't fire heroes

Agreed, but you're just missing the bigger picture.

By firing him, they eliminated another possible time in the future if that situation happens again, this time he gets killed while chasing him. How will they answer to his family? Why did this happen to him? Why didn't someone stop him from chasing that person?

Stupid by firing him, not in their minds. Businesses are there to cover their bottom line, it sucks but that's the reality. Sure it would cool to be the hero of the moment. But playing safe is better than saying "sorry for your loss" later if the act of heroism doesn't pan out.

It would be nice and rosy if the end result of robberies always (not sometimes) 100% guarantees that nobody will get hurt/killed in both sides (perp or victim). You'll never know if the perp has a partner outside the building or hidden amongst you, watching and waiting to shoot. Would you be willing take that chance? Gamble with your life and hope that you won't get hurt/killed? Sounds cowardly by not chasing, but stop and think if something bad really happens. It's not you who will suffer. it's your family.

I willing to bet most of the time someone will get killed/hurt defending themselves regardless if they are alone being robbed or with a lot of people with them. This always happens in Chicago area, no big surprise.

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Years ago (mid '90s), a co-worker (Lead LP) got tired of this shit because everyone in the place I worked at knew that this person shoplifted an expensive item and left the store without paying for it. Watched him in video camera doing it. Protocol calls for us to follow and write down license plate number and description of person, etc. then call police. But he decides to confront the guy in the parking lot and ends up in a fist fight. Co-worker was fired after management heard about it. I never understood why they did that "firing" at that time. But it was made clear to us the next day at a "morning meeting" why they had to do it. Things could have ended worse. Oh, that friend/ex co-worker (early 40s) is now a detective/police with the city if Chicago. You just couldn't rub that smirk off his face when I keep reminding him of that situation. :awe:

 

[JoLLyRoGer]

imagine if this employee had gotten someone shot, which is far more likely than this outcome. i guarantee you the family would be suing autozone now, saying they had a dangerous work environment. thats why they have that policy and why this guy should be fired. theyre just protecting their business. the amount of cash someone could steal isnt worth a persons life, duh

I don't have to imagine. He didn't get anyone shot. No one is suing anyone although apparently it IS a dangerous work environment considering it's the 2nd time the store has been hit in as many months. And the outcome is what it is. It happened and it turned out the way it turned out. It's not a 'what if' scenario. I just think it's a shitty way to show your gratitude if you're the company. Then maybe they're not grateful which is more likely the case. So F-em.

 

[darkewaffle]

Care to show a story where a CCW holder harmed an innocent person?

You're "there will be blood in the streets" is false, not true, made up and a lie.

You're projecting a whole lot there.

It's not about the civilian being a threat, it's about people making stupid decisions that unnecessarily make situations worse by trying to play hero. In this case, the guy got lucky, it worked out. Replay that scenario over a thousand different universes and I'm betting the average result isn't nearly as rosy.

Versus giving the burglar what he wants and getting him out the door? I think you'd have far better safety rates doing so. Sure, sometimes resisting works and sometimes compliance still gets people killed. But I think the latter is going to see a lot more people alive in the long run.

 

[AMDZen]

Agreed, but you're just missing the bigger picture.

By firing him, they eliminated another possible time in the future if that situation happens again, this time he gets killed while chasing him. How will they answer to his family? Why did this happen to him?

Stupid by firing him, not in their minds. Businesses are there to cover their bottom line, it sucks but that's the reality. Sure it would cool to be the hero of the moment. But playing safe is better than saying "sorry for your loss" later if the act of heroism doesn't pan out.

It would be nice and rosy if the end result of robberies always (not sometimes) 100% guarantees that nobody will get hurt/killed in both sides (perp or victim). You'll never know if the perp has a partner outside the building or hidden amongst you, watching and waiting to shoot. Would you be willing take that chance? Gamble with your life and hope that you won't get hurt/killed? Sounds cowardly by not chasing, but stop and think if something bad really happens. It's not you who will suffer. it's your family.

I willing to bet most of the time someone will get killed/hurt defending themselves regardless if they are alone being robbed or with a lot of people with them. This always happens in Chicago area, no big surprise.

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Years ago (mid '90s), a co-worker (Lead LP) got tired of this shit because everyone in the place I worked at knew that this person shoplifted an expensive item and left the store without paying for it. Watched him in video camera doing it. Protocol calls for us to follow and write down license plate number and description of person, etc. then call police. But he decides to confront the guy in the parking lot and ends up in a fist fight. Co-worker was fired after management heard about it. I never understood why they did that "firing" at that time. But it was made clear to us the next day at a "morning meeting" why they had to do it. Things could have ended worse. Oh, that friend/ex co-worker (early 40s) is now a detective/police with the city if Chicago. :awe:

Are you implying that if an employee of an establishment being robbed does nothing and just hands over the money that all threat of him being shot goes out the window? What if the robber decides to shoot the fucker any way? And he did nothing to prevent it from happening? That isn't the way people think, everyone acts differently in dire situations. Try telling a navy seal not to defend himself if put in a situation like this, or really anyone with similar backgrounds.

You guys are all ignorant stiffs, implying that all the "what if" scenario's you can comprehend in your tiny little minds allow everyone to get through things safely if they simply comply with the demands of the robber.

Thats what all the people on the flights that hit the WTC thought too. "Lets just listen to the terrorists demands, and we'll get through this"

Except they ended up flying into a building, didn't they. Imagine how many lives someone could have saved if they had acted.

Fucking lib tard homo's, the lot of you

 

[jtvang125]

This is Autozone, a DIY guy's place to go when working on his toy. This is a great marketing opportunity for whomever is Autozone's best competition in the area that this guy lives in, to announce that they are hiring this guy and that they support his heroism.

They could end up winning over a large percentage of people that would have otherwise shopped at Autozone.

Make it even more of a PR nightmare for them. O'Riley or whomever is in the area of this person needs to act quickly and hire this dude because, fuck Autozone

Doubt it. Their competitors probably all have the very same policies regarding these types of situations so hiring him and making a PR story about it just means they condone this type of behavior. Not that what he did was bad and I commend him for his bravery but these policies are there for a reason.

 

[dainthomas]

Dude was retarded. Who in their right mind cares enough about Autozone's money to get in a shootout with someone? Just give him the cash and he leaves.

 

[Bateluer]

Man C'mon.. That has to be one of the most panicked situations you can find yourself in. Life or death against an armed assailant. How many are going to be thinking "what would the company do?" in that type of situation?

 

[spidey07]

Dude was retarded. Who in their right mind cares enough about Autozone's money to get in a shootout with someone? Just give him the cash and he leaves.

He cared about the people who might get shot by the criminal and took action to stop it. A hero. Criminals have been known to shoot people dead...for fun. He essentially saved their lives.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

Corporate policies are created for one reason and, one reason only, to save money. They couldn't care less about customer or employee safety except how it relates to possible litigation. The clerk did the right thing because he put customer and employee safety ahead of policy. At the end of the day, policy never helped a single customer, earned a single dollar or, created a successful business. People do that. Fuck corporate policy.

 

[rommelrommel]

If they had to do something why not put a letter on his file? Please don't do it again?