Autism & Serial killers/Mass shooters.

[vi edit]

Autism does not relate to lack of empathy, just the opposite, autistic people do not lack feeling , they have too many feelings to the point it overwhelms . The empathy autism thing needs to go away.

Exactly.

I still think the OP is looking for this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisocial_personality_disorder

It is characterized by at least 3 of the following:

1. Callous unconcern for the feelings of others.
2. Gross and persistent attitude of irresponsibility and disregard for social norms, rules, and obligations.
3. Incapacity to maintain enduring relationships, though having no difficulty in establishing them.
4. Very low tolerance to frustration and a low threshold for discharge of aggression, including violence.
5. Incapacity to experience guilt or to profit from experience, particularly punishment.
6. Markedly prone to blame others or to offer plausible rationalizations for the behavior that has brought the person into conflict with society.

 

[SirStev0]

Op is confusing Autistic with Anti-Social or Borderline personality or Sociopath/Psychopathic

 

[Printer Bandit]

this guy was definitely part of MK-ULTRA.

 

[lxskllr]

Yes, if there's solid indicators someones about to go on a shooting spree we should just ignore it... Wow... You never cease to surprise me. You should never volunteer for a suicide hotline.

Damn you're a dim bulb. He had brown hair too. Maybe we should put people with brown hair on a watch list. Oh, Whoops... He dyed it orange. I guess we're fucked :^S

 

[God Mode]

Its lonely when you're uniquely intelligent and no one can easily relate to you.

 

[AyashiKaibutsu]

Damn you're a dim bulb. He had brown hair too. Maybe we should put people with brown hair on a watch list. Oh, Whoops... He dyed it orange. I guess we're fucked :^S

Yea, that's totally the same as having a mental condition with a propensity for mass murder that could be stopped with treatment or at least watched for warnings of him snapping. Getting these people the help they need should be the focus. Not oh damn the luck 100 people just got shot up hope it doesn't happen again even though we have plenty of warning signs. Your inability to critically think is amazing. Preventing mass murder isn't where the government should interfere? REALLY?

 

[lxskllr]

Yea, that's totally the same as having a mental condition with a propensity for mass murder that could be stopped with treatment or at least watched for warnings of him snapping. Getting these people the help they need should be the focus. Not oh damn the luck 100 people just got shot up hope it doesn't happen again even though we have plenty of warning signs. Your inability to critically think is amazing. Preventing mass murder isn't where the government should interfere? REALLY?

Jesus christ. The fuckin' point is autism doesn't have anything to do with shooting up a theatre. Go back to your Nintendo, and leave the thinking to the adults, ok?

 

[AyashiKaibutsu]

Jesus christ. The fuckin' point is autism doesn't have anything to do with shooting up a theatre. Go back to your Nintendo, and leave the thinking to the adults, ok?

Mental illness obviously does even if autism doesn't. Nothing I said relied on autism. Get some brains.

 

[lxskllr]

Mental illness obviously does even if autism doesn't. Nothing I said relied on autism. Get some brains.

Which mental illness?

 

[AyashiKaibutsu]

Which mental illness?

Someone already posted it for you. Hard time reading?

 

[lxskllr]

Someone already posted it for you. Hard time reading?

I can read just fine, and have done so for many more years than you've been alive. Care to tell me what the thread title "Autism & Serial killers/Mass shooters". and my first post in this thread have to do with the shit you're spewing from your ass?

 

[AyashiKaibutsu]

I can read just fine, and have done so for many more years than you've been alive. Care to tell me what the thread title "Autism & Serial killers/Mass shooters". and my first post in this thread have to do with the shit you're spewing from your ass?

"There's little to be done about a random event that can happen due to random causes."

You stated it's a random event. As more happen it's clearly not. People that do these things tend to fit a profile including mental illness. People with some bit of intelligence realize hey maybe caring for these people instead of picking up the aftermath would be better. I'm not going to bother with more detail since you're not really capable of understanding it.

 

[lxskllr]

"There's little to be done about a random event that can happen due to random causes."

You stated it's a random event. As more happen it's clearly not. People that do these things tend to fit a profile including mental illness. People with some bit of intelligence realize hey maybe caring for these people instead of picking up the aftermath would be better. I'm not going to bother with more detail since you're not really capable of understanding it.

Consider this a gift...

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You're gonna have to finish the research yourself. It's not my job to fill in where your parents and teachers failed.

In most cases, negative behavior is recognized through hindsight, and that hindsight would also apply to people wouldn't shoot up a theatre, or anything else. Humans derive patterns from random occurrences, and applying those patterns to future events is incorrect.

Reply or not. I don't care, but I'm finished with you.

 

[AyashiKaibutsu]

Consider this a gift...



You're gonna have to finish the research yourself. It's not my job to fill in where your parents and teachers failed.

In most cases, negative behavior is recognized through hindsight, and that hindsight would also apply to people wouldn't shoot up a theatre, or anything else. Humans derive patterns from random occurrences, and applying those patterns to future events is incorrect.

Reply or not. I don't care, but I'm finished with you.

Lol. You've managed to become hilarious.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Probability

Good job being a complete idiot and not understanding psychological profiles.

 

[William Gaatjes]

Autism does not relate to lack of empathy, just the opposite, autistic people do not lack feeling , they have too many feelings to the point it overwhelms . The empathy autism thing needs to go away.
http://www.autismandempathy.com/


These media program doctors are ambulance chasers at their worst. I watched a doctor say the shooter had avoidant personality disorder because he likely wanted to be isolated from others and be alone, the loner type that everyone is familiar with and felt rejected by society. Nothing could be further from the truth, avoidant people want contact with people more than anything but they have a social phobia of being accepted , almost like an extreme case of shyness, they also are not violent but tend to avoid violence because it draws attention to them.

The TV docs are just throwing out junk left and right , anything to make them a quick buck.

You are very right. Some autistic people even use on top of having extreme empathy, a large part of their intelligence and concentration to actively filter out what is needed from the raw data what the brain of non autistic people does automatically. But then again, those brains also have some deficit more or less. Everybody has something strange, the problem is that today everyday society, instead of learning people how to control their deficits, just gives out pills to suppress not only what was never learned to control, but also the will to learn to control it.

Everybody is crazy, the trick is how to control it and use it in a socially acceptable way. Nowadays, the individual is more important and must be accepted even when having extreme behavior. Or must be suppressed by medicine. There is no more balance...

 

[William Gaatjes]

Exactly.

I still think the OP is looking for this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisocial_personality_disorder

It is characterized by at least 3 of the following:

1. Callous unconcern for the feelings of others.
2. Gross and persistent attitude of irresponsibility and disregard for social norms, rules, and obligations.
3. Incapacity to maintain enduring relationships, though having no difficulty in establishing them.
4. Very low tolerance to frustration and a low threshold for discharge of aggression, including violence.
5. Incapacity to experience guilt or to profit from experience, particularly punishment.
6. Markedly prone to blame others or to offer plausible rationalizations for the behavior that has brought the person into conflict with society.

Have you met my neighbors ?
This fits them exactly.

 

[MetalMat]

What would Jenny Mccarthy have to say about this?

 

[Anubis]

Have you met my neighbors ?
This fits them exactly.

id bet most of society fits at least 2 of those and has major instances of a 3rd

 

[MetalMat]

Exactly.

I still think the OP is looking for this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisocial_personality_disorder

It is characterized by at least 3 of the following:

1. Callous unconcern for the feelings of others.
2. Gross and persistent attitude of irresponsibility and disregard for social norms, rules, and obligations.
3. Incapacity to maintain enduring relationships, though having no difficulty in establishing them.
4. Very low tolerance to frustration and a low threshold for discharge of aggression, including violence.
5. Incapacity to experience guilt or to profit from experience, particularly punishment.
6. Markedly prone to blame others or to offer plausible rationalizations for the behavior that has brought the person into conflict with society.

Sounds like all my ex girlfriends

I joke I joke

 

[William Gaatjes]

id bet most of society fits at least 2 of those and has major instances of a 3rd

Ok,

My neighbors both fit all of them.
They stay together to only end up in a weekly fight.
Have a total disregard for other people.
The woman seemed proud when she told me that when she was punished as a kid, she would refuse to give in or cry.
Both do not understand nor use the word sorry. Both blame always somebody else and always try to lay the guilt with another person. May just be a random person who lives in the block. Both have a tendency to lie and the woman has a tendency to influence other people which with me did not work, hence i am the devil. I have seen it how they view there children. As puppets. Both are paranoid and do not understand the difference between an incidental occurrence and systematic occurrences. Everybody always does it on purpose to them, at least that is what they have convinced themselves. To justify their own behavior.

 

[MisterJackson]

No wonder other countries mock us and laugh at us.

 

[Maleficus]

ITT: people who do not know what autism is.

also this thread makes me sad.

 

[PimpJuice]

Are Texashiker and alkemyst the same retard?

 

[disappoint]

You don't understand autism. Even after it's been explained to you by multiple posters in this thread. I get that. It's fine. There are plenty of things low functioning, literate people with poor to fair comprehension skills can do to entertain themselves. You can play Farmville, make friends on Failbook, play World of War Crap, just to name a few. Maybe understanding mental illness isn't your strong suit. Not everyone can. It's nothing to worry about really. You have plenty of company in people that just don't get it. You are not alone. Don't feel bad about it. Just have fun! Vegitating in front of a TV set watching the Simpsons for example. Or how about Wapner? 'Course It's 30 minutes to Wapner. 30 minutes. It's 29 minutes 48 seconds to Wapner. 29 minutes 44 seconds. Yeah.

 

[artvscommerce]

Its pretty interesting, autism on the rise & tragedies on the rise.

Autism is not on the rise. It's how we define it and the fact that we're getting better at diagnosing it. I haven't seen any evidence that suggests autism is on the rise in the sense that you're implying.