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JKing106

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Dunno about Nixon - too long ago for me to care. It has been shown that Reagan had alzheimers, so he very well might not have remembered, like he claimed. :)

Nah, it was the lack of conscience, in both Nixon and Reagan. It's a flaw endemic to Republicans.
 

GarfieldtheCat

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I assert that GarfieldtheCat is a tool of the Democrat Party and is a narcissist.

:whiste:

So in other words, you outright lied, and when asked to provide proof to back up your lie, you instead just give up and insult me. Noted.

You made the BS claim, not me. I called it out as wrong, and provided evidence to back my claim up.

What do you do? Insult me with lies.
 

Pens1566

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I have a few friends in the armed forces, serving overseas. They post photos on facebook fairly often. You can clearly see some of the same faces over and over in those photos. You have a good idea who their buddies are over there.

If this is the same for the Seals, then by leaking one name, it really wouldn't be too hard to infer who some of the other Seals are.

Again, SEALs aren't hard to find at all. Swing by McPs any time and you'll trip over them.
 

Pens1566

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Tripping over a random SEAL is an entirely different thing than leaking information that targets specific ones.

You're right. But if you think that anyone butthurt over the OBL killing would go after specific members or the broader, vastly easier to find, group as a whole then I think you're wrong.
 
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You're right. But if you think that anyone butthurt over the OBL killing would go after specific members or the broader, vastly easier to find, group as a whole then I think you're wrong.

Maybe you're right, it's not like we are dealing with potential vengeful terrorists or anything.
 

airdata

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Didn't most of the 'bin laden kill squad' get disappeared in a helicopter crash within a few weeks of the operation?
 

PJABBER

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So in other words, you outright lied, and when asked to provide proof to back up your lie, you instead just give up and insult me. Noted.

You made the BS claim, not me. I called it out as wrong, and provided evidence to back my claim up.

What do you do? Insult me with lies.

TL;DR

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GarfieldtheCat

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TL;DR

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So you insult me again. Nice.

Sorry you feel you are entitled to lie whenever you want without anyone being allowed to call you out on it. But people shouldn't go around posting factually untrue items.

You are free to post evidence proving me wrong if you have any. Since you can only respond with childish insults, I guess we all see that you don't.
 

PJABBER

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So you insult me again. Nice.

Sorry you feel you are entitled to lie whenever you want without anyone being allowed to call you out on it. But people shouldn't go around posting factually untrue items.

You are free to post evidence proving me wrong if you have any. Since you can only respond with childish insults, I guess we all see that you don't.

I don't see any insult in pointing out that you are a Democrat Party tool or in noting that you are a narcissist.

Those are statements of fact.

Do you wish to establish a contrary position? What would that position be? Please be clear.

I don't have any problem in self-identifying myself as a political party unaffiliated classical liberal. I do so every so often so that casual readers are not confused by the context of my commentary. Everyone knows that I take a very consistent, albeit occasionally nuanced, stand.

Don't be a coward, admit to yourself and to the world what you stand for. Even if it is just being a tool, claim that role proudly!

After all, you stand in the shadow of greats such as Eliot Spitzer, Anthony Weiner, Eric Massa, John Edwards, Jesse Jackson Jr., Norman Hsu, Jim McGreevey, Barney Frank, Daniel David Rostenkowski, Marion Barry, James A. Traficant Jr., Bobby Lee Rush, and many others!


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werepossum

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I don't recall calling anyone a hero here, sorry. I'm also having a hard time finding any sympathy for Osama hiding behind women, pissing himself like a coward too shit scared to grab a gun. The highest value targets don't do well in areas under "Shoot on Sight" care, and I wouldn't have it any other way. Remember, our guys had already been fired upon. Game on.
And since you brought it up, I feel the US doesn't get nearly the credit it deserves in it's desire and practice to avoid unnecessary causalities. This applies to both the tech and money we invest in that effort, and also the conduct of our frontline pros. If women and/or unarmed were shot in the middle of a firefight, I'm inclined to believe it was either necessary or unavoidable rather than malicious and/or incompetent.

I don't know that he's a hero. I do know that he is worthy of respect for his service, and that he'll have that from me regardless of what I think of his book once I finish reading it.

Are you Pakistani by chance?
I agree with you about the respect, but . . .

Assuming this book is as critical of Obama as it is rumored, I put it in the same vein as Plame. SpecOps and covert operatives (even covert operatives as laughably uncovert as Plame) deserve the veil of secrecy. BUT - when you start trying to influence politics, you lose the right to that privacy. One should not be able to try to influence politics by dint of service without being available for cross-examination by the other side, as it were. Even if one absolutely believes the President is doing wrong. I do have a lot of sympathy for the other SEALs who, as Dr. Pizza pointed out, may also be identified as collateral damage.
 
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This just got bad for the author. The Pentagon has found him in material breach of agreements over the book.
 

kage69

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I agree with you about the respect, but . . .

Assuming this book is as critical of Obama as it is rumored, I put it in the same vein as Plame. SpecOps and covert operatives (even covert operatives as laughably uncovert as Plame) deserve the veil of secrecy. BUT - when you start trying to influence politics, you lose the right to that privacy. One should not be able to try to influence politics by dint of service without being available for cross-examination by the other side, as it were. Even if one absolutely believes the President is doing wrong. I do have a lot of sympathy for the other SEALs who, as Dr. Pizza pointed out, may also be identified as collateral damage.


Possum, thank you for your concise and eloquent reply, I really appreciate it.
 

sixone

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This just got bad for the author. The Pentagon has found him in material breach of agreements over the book.

Says a lot about the current administration. They hire crooks like Geithner, but refuse to pursue charges against Lehman Brothers.

And now they're going to prosecute a military hero, who participated in taking down UBL.

Yeah, do that right before the election, geniuses, and see how many MORE military votes you lose.
 

EagleKeeper

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This just got bad for the author. The Pentagon has found him in material breach of agreements over the book.

To be expected. Yet the information revealed has already been spilt by the current administration in one form or another.

They can rewrite the rules and/or keep the rules classified to prevent analysis.
 

kage69

Lifer
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To be expected. Yet the information revealed has already been spilt by the current administration in one form or another.

They can rewrite the rules and/or keep the rules classified to prevent analysis.


Oh, so you've read it? Any chance you could give us some examples then?
 

kage69

Lifer
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Says a lot about the current administration. They hire crooks like Geithner, but refuse to pursue charges against Lehman Brothers.

And now they're going to prosecute a military hero, who participated in taking down UBL.

Yeah, do that right before the election, geniuses, and see how many MORE military votes you lose.


I think it says a lot about the current state of the country that his deliberate outing by Fox doesn't seem to be much of an issue, even for those who consider themselves stalwart military supporters.


So far the Pentagon is threatening to bring charges against him, but they haven't done so yet. Seems they made a point of telling him "We own all the proceeds for your book, as per the NDA."

I'd like to hear him explain why he felt the need to go the route he did and ignore established protocol.
 

GarfieldtheCat

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I don't see any insult in pointing out that you are a Democrat Party tool or in noting that you are a narcissist.

Those are statements of fact.

It is an insult, and your accusations are not fact, they are just more lies. Point out with proof you are wrong is in no way narcissism.

Do you wish to establish a contrary position? What would that position be? Please be clear.

So all those quotes I posted showing you are wrong wasn't clear enough? That you lied and made something up once again?

I don't have any problem in self-identifying myself as a political party unaffiliated classical liberal. I do so every so often so that casual readers are not confused by the context of my commentary. Everyone knows that I take a very consistent, albeit occasionally nuanced, stand.


LOL, coming from the GOP shill who posts nothing but right-wing Op-eds and tries to play them off as real facts, as opposed to opinions.

You really must get paid by the word to post that much BS, unless you are Paul Ryan in disguise.

Once again, you want to defend your BS statement about Fox news:

not the much more balanced news operation

Given the multiple studies that show Fox viewers are the most misinformed people?

Or are you incapable of defending your assertions? Given what you have posted, the answer is pretty obvious that you are unable to defend it, so you just fall back on insults.

You lied, and made a BS claim, back it up. I have already given proof you are wrong.
 

a777pilot

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This just got bad for the author. The Pentagon has found him in material breach of agreements over the book.

Really? I find that just amazing. Gee, I wonder who the DOD takes orders from these days?

LOL!

p.s., I'll be surprised if this book is allowed to come out to the general public prior to the election.
 

kage69

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That's your response after getting called on acting like you know the contents of an unreleased book?

How about you RTFB before telling others what's in it? You not being able to back up your statements is not the reading fail of someone else.
 

OCGuy

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White House says he is in "Material Breach", just as suspected.

A stiff jail sentence will hopefully keep more Special Forces from going on TV and writing books.
 

blankslate

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A stiff jail sentence will hopefully keep more Special Forces from going on TV and writing books.

He could have submitted the manuscript to the Pentagon reviewers before going to a publisher like other special forces authors have done...

yet he didn't and made himself vulnerable.

Regardless of how you view what he has written he has made a mistake that might result in legal action taken against him.

Clinton made himself vulnerable by lying under oath.

Obama does so when he says something that can be quoted out of context to mean something completely different.
 

EagleKeeper

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That's your response after getting called on acting like you know the contents of an unreleased book?

How about you RTFB before telling others what's in it? You not being able to back up your statements is not the reading fail of someone else.
Book was reviewed/vetted by lawyers versed in what is/is not allowed.

It is what is in the overall book that has pissed off the administration.

They were raked over the coals once for leaking national security information on the operation. Now the full story is to be exposed; they opened up Pandora's box and all of a sudden when the usefulness is no longer needed; they want to close it.